HIV-Infected Adult Film Actress Says KINK,,,

[DBS.US]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8a5_1379614200

[RyuLion]

Congratz to you on your find..

[topsiteking]

Oh fuck.

[sandman!]

[mikesinner]

I thought it had already been proven that both got their HIV from outside the industry.

[notinmybackyard]

Let us just assume that I have been around this industry long enough to ask the following question.

How many of them were stoned on set?

Because I will bet anything that there was a few lines snorted at the very least before the shoot.

[Phoenix]

if true..why would you work with someone bleeding from their penis?

sad in any case

[PornoMonster]

Bleeding from his Penis? WTF.

Injections to stay hard??

[DWB]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

I thought it had already been proven that both got their HIV from outside the industry.

Nothing has actually been proven, but that's more than likely what happened. "Patient zero" doesn't exist and performer #3 is not cooperating, so they don't know if it's the same strain or not. #4 and #5 apparently don't exist according to the FSC. They are only speculating because other performers in the straight side of the business who worked with the poz performers have not tested positive. Which could mean it was caught off set (which is probably the case), or that someone had false negative results, or that someone is poz and has a low viral load and can actually pass a HIV test.

Of course, no directors, company owners or staff, or anyone else who sometimes screws the girls have been tested, but we'll just pretend they always wear condoms.

So with this reasoning, it is said that it was picked up outside the industry.

[VamosNicholas]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

I thought it had already been proven that both got their HIV from outside the industry.

I don't think anything has been proven. They just claim that since nobody that they worked with got it that it had to have been transmitted off set. Patient zero (the one who transmitted to Rod or Cam) is still unknown.

[bronco67]

Rod Daily...I just got that. Good name.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Rod Daily...I just got that. Good name.

Better than his GF...

Cam Ranh Bay
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Not to be confused with Cameron Bay."



Cam Ranh bay, the main base in Vietnam People's Navy fleet nowadays

Always thought Cameron Bay was an odd name. Cameron is her real first name, but I wonder if she knew about the existence of Cam Ranh bay.



ADG

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

I thought it had already been proven that both got their HIV from outside the industry.

how do you "prove" where someone got HIV?

[keysync]

Geesh the comments under that video show some pretty tough keyboard warriors.

[OneHungLo]

What was the 3rd guy saying about Kink knowing he was HIV positive, yet had him scheduled for a shoot.

Like they are going to do shoots with people knowing they are HIV+ ....what a drama queen.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What was the 3rd guy saying about Kink knowing he was HIV positive, yet had him scheduled for a shoot.

Anyone who believes that is an idiot. No one in their right mind would allow that to happen.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Anyone who believes that is an idiot. No one in their right mind would allow that to happen.

Yeah, just like nobody would ever lift a moratorium before being certain there is no more risk. Could you imagine how ridiculous they'd look if they lifted a moratorium and then had to reinstate it? There has been nothing but transparency throughout this entire ordeal.

[topsiteking]

Originally Posted by DWB

Nothing has actually been proven, but that's more than likely what happened. "Patient zero" doesn't exist and performer #3 is not cooperating, so they don't know if it's the same strain or not. #4 and #5 apparently don't exist according to the FSC. They are only speculating because other performers in the straight side of the business who worked with the poz performers have not tested positive. Which could mean it was caught off set (which is probably the case), or that someone had false negative results, or that someone is poz and has a low viral load and can actually pass a HIV test.

Of course, no directors, company owners or staff, or anyone else who sometimes screws the girls have been tested, but we'll just pretend they always wear condoms.

So with this reasoning, it is said that it was picked up outside the industry.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

What was the 3rd guy saying about Kink knowing he was HIV positive, yet had him scheduled for a shoot.

Like they are going to do shoots with people knowing they are HIV+ ....what a drama queen.

Originally Posted by Rochard

Anyone who believes that is an idiot. No one in their right mind would allow that to happen.

This industry is full of people who would do exactly that. Though, to be fair, he did say it was a shoot with no exchange of fluids. You also have Rod who said he did scenes with 12 HIV+ performers, but it was OK because they wore condoms. The gay side of the industry works people who are HIV+ all the time. That is another reason why allowing gay for pay performers to also work in the straight side of the biz is a huge risk.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by DWB

This industry is full of people who would do exactly that. Though, to be fair, he did say it was a shoot with no exchange of fluids. You also have Rod who said he did scenes with 12 HIV+ performers, but it was OK because they wore condoms. The gay side of the industry works people who are HIV+ all the time. That is another reason why allowing gay for pay performers to also work in the straight side of the biz is a huge risk.

I wouldn't put it past your average suitcase pimp, but Kink? I'd be surprised if a big company like Kink, Hustler / Playboy etc., would knowingly shoot an HIV+ actor.

Now checking IDs, that's a whole different story. We had some girls roll in here and give us these IDs that literally on the back said 'Not For Official Use.' They said the IDs were fine because they used them to shoot with HUGECOMPANYTHATSHOOTSTEENSGIRLS.COM .....MIND = BLOWN.

[2MuchMark]

Pretty fucked up right here.

[Arnox]

Mm, Kink probably knows better.

[lock]

I guess nobody is going to say they got it shooting up either.

[JenniDahling]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

if true..why would you work with someone bleeding from their penis?

sad in any case

That was my question. Or at least stop or call off the shoot once it was discovered.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by JenniDahling

That was my question. Or at least stop or call off the shoot once it was discovered.

according what I read it happened real fast, it wasnt like he said Im bleeding from my schlong stop the shoot(which to me if I was bleeding there its game over. lol). She found out after the fact from what I read. I also guess alot was happening at once, some guy damaged her fake breast also.

[JenniDahling]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

if true..why would you work with someone bleeding from their penis?

sad in any case

That was my question. Or at least call off the shoot once it was discovered.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by lock

I guess nobody is going to say they got it shooting up either.

The media won't say that. No one cares about junkies.

But lets assume they did get it shooting up, and from what I've heard (hearsay only) that is plausible. However, HIV didn't miracle itself into the situation. It still had to come from somewhere. Another needle sharer perhaps?

In regards to the hearsay, I also expect porn to protect itself and throw everyone under the bus in an attempt to do so. So such a rumor could be nothing more than a smear campaign. Only those who are infected know the truth.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by lock

I guess nobody is going to say they got it shooting up either.

Someone would need to be very foolish or nieve to not know that drugs had been involved.
This industry never admits to the drug problems.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

I don't think anything has been proven. They just claim that since nobody that they worked with got it that it had to have been transmitted off set. Patient zero (the one who transmitted to Rod or Cam) is still unknown.

look at it like this: the guy is a gay hustler, the girl is GF and the third girl is their anal freak fuck buddy... so you're thinking they got infected on set? I get that right?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by topsiteking

everyone I know that fucks the girls gets tested

[xNetworx]

From the comments:

WTF is wrong with people, 'hey ho my cock is bleeding better keep fucking...'
I have never bled from my dick... You know what would happen if I started bleeding from my dick? I would stop whatever the fuck I was doing and check my ass into a hospital screaming the entire way there.
There would literally be nothing that could stop me finding someone medical to scream at that my fucking dick was bleeding, hell if I had too I'd carjack my way to hospital and hold the doctor at gun point...
In what backwards ass world is a bleeding penis a normality???!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

look at it like this: the guy is a gay hustler, the girl is GF and the third girl is their anal freak fuck buddy... so you're thinking they got infected on set? I get that right?

I think it's very safe to say it wasn't transmitted on set. However, catching it on set and catching it in the industry are different things. But unless patient zero is identified, everything said by industry folk is speculation. Cameron or #3 could have just as easily fucked an HIV+ director or company owner / employee, shared a needle with her boyfriend, who then fucked the other girl, and whammo. Since only performers are tested, there is no way to tell. It could have come from someone in the industry who doesn't test just as easily as it could have come from an escort client or her boyfriend who is gay for pay. Without patient zero, no one will ever know.

And now with them siding with AHF, I don't expect the truth will ever come out. It wouldn't fit into the AHF agenda to make a press release stating patient zero was found and he/she doesn't work in the porn industry.

[TRPWL]

Ive been saying it for 22 months. In fact i predicted it ...

Patient 0 is 3rd grade math

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Let us just assume that I have been around this industry long enough to ask the following question.

How many of them were stoned on set?

Because I will bet anything that there was a few lines snorted at the very least before the shoot.

Obviously you don't know what happens to your cock when you snort blow. lol

The LAST thing I would ever do is snort a line before walking onto a set with all that pressure on me to have and keep an erection...the only drugs I have EVER seen used on a professional shoot were cialis, levitra, and viagra.

Some of y'all make assumptions not based on experience on a set.

Even now as a director and videographer I can tell you that again...the LAST thing I would want to do is a line of cocaine. My hands have to be steady and my mind sharp to work.
I wouldn't even drink a freakin' beer before a shoot.

Now afterwards that evening (most shoots are during the daytime by the way for those of you who have never even been on a real set) Sure, let's go out and get drunk or high or whatever floats your boat.

A porn set isn't what you guys imagine it to be. The finished product doesn't show the hard work. And the finished product makes it appear that it's a debauchery filled sex party going on...if you were actually there on set and saw the process of creating that ILLUSION you would understand.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Someone would need to be very foolish or nieve to not know that drugs had been involved.
This industry never admits to the drug problems.

Drug problems are society's thing.

Cameron Bay has publicly admitted that she was shooting up long before she ever got into porn.
She was even doing it when she had her 15 minutes of fame on the VH1 Reality show. Her "demons" are what landed her that gig in the first place.

So maybe VH1 and all of Reality Television are the one who should "admit to the drug problems"

My point is this...why would it be a porn companies fault as to what people do in their own personal lives?

If a girl or guy shows up on set trashed...they get sent home. Y'all have no idea how "diva-like" a director can be on set.
That set belongs to ME when I'm shooting.

And anybody that disrespects it is gone.

And yes, even though I'm just a small "ma and pop" director shooting all of our own stuff...I have sent male talent home and canceled the entire shoot for showing up drunk or reeking of weed.
It pisses Claudia Marie off after scheduling her day for the shoot, and it costs me money. But the scene would SUCK and I don't want bad sex on our site.
I don't have the patience for that kind of shit.

And the sets I've been on with Claudia Marie when she shot for Naughty America over the years...it was even more disciplined and regimented than I am.

The truth is...Cameron Bay partied and had fun in her personal life. And that's what life is for...to ENJOY it. It shouldn't be a big deal. But unfortunately, having 3-somes with anal sex with a gay boyfriend and his gay buddy at the same time AND shooting intravenous drugs can lead you to catch the HIV virus.

It sucks. But that's the way it is.

Since this happened I have been reading a LOT about HIV.
And doctors have had a HUGE breakthrough in CURING it! They have a new med that is curing it in monkeys right now. First time ever. This just happened in the last couple of months so it's all breaking right now.

I hope that this virus is cured once and for all (it's about time after 30 years of research).

But in the meantime...everybody should lay off having anal sex with 2 gay guys and shooting up intravenous drugs.

That way you won't endanger OTHER people (like she did) by deciding to try her hand at shooting porn...and THEN turning around and giving a tearful performance and blaming it all on porn.

How fucking convenient.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by TRPWL

Ive been saying it for 22 months. In fact i predicted it ...

Patient 0 is 3rd grade math

I apparently flunked the 3rd grade. Who is it?

[VamosNicholas]

Originally Posted by TRPWL

Ive been saying it for 22 months. In fact i predicted it ...

Patient 0 is 3rd grade math

But you've also been saying that testing = prevention when in fact it does not. Testing =/= prevention. Testing helps to prevent further infections, yes, but it is not 100% prevention. Maybe you should have continued to 4th grade? There's also still that window in between tests where things can happen.

I mean look at it like this. Say your computer picks up a worm. Your antivirus software may pick it up during a scan, but it didn't prevent the infection. Maybe the scan caught it and removed it in time before it started attempting to spread itself to other computers on your network. The point is, you didn't prevent the initial exposure, you only limited the further exposure. True prevention would be making sure that your system is safe against threats before they happen.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Drug problems are society's thing.

Cameron Bay has publicly admitted that she was shooting up long before she ever got into porn.
She was even doing it when she had her 15 minutes of fame on the VH1 Reality show. Her "demons" are what landed her that gig in the first place.

So maybe VH1 and all of Reality Television are the one who should "admit to the drug problems"

My point is this...why would it be a porn companies fault as to what people do in their own personal lives?

You can argue who should or should not be responsible all year and I will not care.

What I am saying is that if you want to cut down on some of the problems in porn then

keep the drugs off the set,
keep the drug addicts on the street and not in your studio

There is a large number of people coming into the biz that shoot up and suck any cock with at least 20$ tied to it. Then there is the fucking moron directors that let them snort up and take *safety meetings* after releases are signed.

So you get crack whores showing up to work and getting stoned on set with the director and crew. Then when something happens everyone starts screaming "oh geez whizzz perhaps we should have condoms." Perhaps you should have been sober and perhaps getting on talent file should have an interview instead of just take off your clothes and asking do if they take it in the ass.

So how about this idea to begin things...
Know who the fuck you are filming and start acting like professionals and only do business with professionals. Afterall Peter acworth was arrested on drugs was he not?

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by DWB

I think it's very safe to say it wasn't transmitted on set. However, catching it on set and catching it in the industry are different things. But unless patient zero is identified, everything said by industry folk is speculation. Cameron or #3 could have just as easily fucked an HIV+ director or company owner / employee, shared a needle with her boyfriend, who then fucked the other girl, and whammo. Since only performers are tested, there is no way to tell. It could have come from someone in the industry who doesn't test just as easily as it could have come from an escort client or her boyfriend who is gay for pay. Without patient zero, no one will ever know.

And now with them siding with AHF, I don't expect the truth will ever come out. It wouldn't fit into the AHF agenda to make a press release stating patient zero was found and he/she doesn't work in the porn industry.

There is no money or care in it for people that got HIV outside a porn set.


Its easier to go after the big bucks and shake the money tree from 2 ends, claiming it came from porn. Get paid out by Kinks insurance and get free meds and paychecks from AHF.


Being a drug using, hooker=Zero Dollars

Originally Posted by Robbie

Obviously you don't know what happens to your cock when you snort blow. lol

The LAST thing I would ever do is snort a line before walking onto a set with all that pressure on me to have and keep an erection...the only drugs I have EVER seen used on a professional shoot were cialis, levitra, and viagra.

Some of y'all make assumptions not based on experience on a set.

Even now as a director and videographer I can tell you that again...the LAST thing I would want to do is a line of cocaine. My hands have to be steady and my mind sharp to work.
I wouldn't even drink a freakin' beer before a shoot.

Now afterwards that evening (most shoots are during the daytime by the way for those of you who have never even been on a real set) Sure, let's go out and get drunk or high or whatever floats your boat.

A porn set isn't what you guys imagine it to be. The finished product doesn't show the hard work. And the finished product makes it appear that it's a debauchery filled sex party going on...if you were actually there on set and saw the process of creating that ILLUSION you would understand.

Nice post Robbie, Spot on.


Just Dave

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

You can argue who should or should not be responsible all year and I will not care.

What I am saying is that if you want to cut down on some of the problems in porn then

keep the drugs off the set,
keep the drug addicts on the street and not in your studio

There is a large number of people coming into the biz that shoot up and suck any cock with at least 20$ tied to it. Then there is the fucking moron directors that let them snort up and take *safety meetings* after releases are signed.

So you get crack whores showing up to work and getting stoned on set with the director and crew. Then when something happens everyone starts screaming "oh geez whizzz perhaps we should have condoms." Perhaps you should have been sober and perhaps getting on talent file should have an interview instead of just take off your clothes and asking do if they take it in the ass.

So how about this idea to begin things...
Know who the fuck you are filming and start acting like professionals and only do business with professionals. Afterall Peter acworth was arrested on drugs was he not?

You really don't have any idea of what you are talking about.

Whether or not the owner of a company has a gram of coke in his pocket has NOTHING to do with what goes on during a shoot.

Why don't you let me educate you? Come to Vegas anytime. Just come here to have some fun. Get in touch with me. I'll show you around, we'll have dinner, have drinks, etc.
Then I'll let you be on set while I shoot a scene.

You can see first hand how it REALLY works instead of spouting mythology.

And by the way...if I were in my office and the cops busted in and I had a gram of coke, or a joint in my pocket...that doesn't extrapolate to mean there is some kind of "drug problem" on my set when I shoot.

The cops could do the same thing to thousands of bankers, firemen, doctors, and even other cops and it wouldn't mean that what people do to have fun after work has anything to do with them having some kind of made up "problem".

You know everybody that drinks isn't an alcoholic. And everybody that gets high doesn't have a "problem".

But as I said...I'd love to show you what really goes in to shooting a scene. I think you would come away with an entirely different perspective.

[Porno Dan]

Patient number # 3 had off camera sex with Rod Daily. That is more than likely how she contracted it. We can never be 100 % certain because when she found out that they could match her strain with the strain that Rod Daily she stopped cooperating with this investigation and went into hiding.

None of these performers got HIV via on camera sex , I am sick and tired of people speculating and insinuating that they did. Condoms on set would not have made any damn difference. End of story move on.

Now regarding Kink.

First and Foremost let me say I am not fan of Kink.

Regardless of what their models releases hitting girls with cattle prods and water boarding them is a criminal act, and I feel their directors and owners should be held accountable for these actions and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

However; in this instance they are being unfairly portrayed in the press. Cameron Bay exposed Xander Corvus to HIV, not the other way around.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

There is no money or care in it for people that got HIV outside a porn set.


Its easier to go after the big bucks and shake the money tree from 2 ends, claiming it came from porn. Get paid out by Kinks insurance and get free meds and paychecks from AHF.


Being a drug using, hooker=Zero Dollars






Nice post Robbie, Spot on.


Just Dave

really porn companies pay medical expenses this is news.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by tony286

really porn companies pay medical expenses this is news.

I think he is saying that she probably has attorneys that are telling her to put the shake down on Kink and get them to pay out to her...even though they did nothing wrong.

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by JenniDahling

That was my question. Or at least stop or call off the shoot once it was discovered.

safeword is "red" on kinks set. they go over this numerous times with the talent prior to rolling. so why any of this would go on is a mystery to me

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Why don't you let me educate you? Come to Vegas anytime. Just come here to have some fun. Get in touch with me. I'll show you around, we'll have dinner, have drinks, etc.
Then I'll let you be on set while I shoot a scene.

You can see first hand how it REALLY works instead of spouting mythology.

I suppose you never had the misfortune of being screwed over by Damien Michels.
Or had to deal with a certain Johnny Toxic who hung out at Lane's office. Or got a drugged out collect phone call in the middle of the night from a stoned and snickering Savannah and Vince. Oh I should add do not get me going on what some of the hijinks that went in the Jill Kelly productions area.

I could describe the inside of the Tuxford house and its bubble gum machine filled with magots and penuts or talk about how Jerry Butler used to hit himself in the head to keep from ejaculating.

You know I never had a problem when porn actors did things like Kyle Stone (aka Mr. 100% viagra free) smoked pot in order to get an errection. But trust me the industry has a drug problem that goes beyond a few simple joints and what you see of this problem depends on what click you are in.

[epitome]

Can't really say I am surprised considering the industry has kicked her to the curb and has treated her and Rod like trash. The whisper campaigns sure aren't helping our cause. Anyone with half a brain could have predicted this. Maybe in the future the industry will actually collectively support anyone diagnosed and not try to discard them and ruin their reputation, leaving them no other option than trying to do the reverse.

Surprised how few know anything about PR, other than making ridiculous offers through TMZ.

[Robbie]

I'm not sure exactly why you and I are talking about drug use...heh-heh, I guess that's the way message board discussions can go.

But I can tell you this...I've been doing this a while. And before this I was a professional musician from 1978 full time until 1992
Compared to traveling in a band and dealing with agents and club owners, the porn industry is like a nun's convent.

Furthermore...my brother is a used car salesman. I've hung with him and his co-workers. Most are raging alcoholics, addicted to pills and meth.

I don't know what you've seen or been around. And it doesn't really matter. You are making a broad statement about the porn industry in 2013...and I'm telling you that it is NOT the way you are describing. And even the people who love to party the hardest in this industry are like boyscouts compared to car salesman and musicians. lol

I meet a lot of people, and guess what? People in ALL walks of life love to party.

The giant multi-billion dollar recreational drug industry isn't financed by a handful of pornographers.

It's world-wide and includes doctors, lawyers, salesmen, stockboys, etc. (you get the idea).
And quite frankly it's nobodies business if someone wants to get high.
Just don't do it at work when I'm trying to get a scene shot correctly.

If you have personal knowledge of ANY studio in 2013 that regularly is shooting and it's nothing more than a big drug-fest...then name it.
No fucking way they would be able to be successful if everyone on set is high. Or drunk.

Maybe you were at a party or a rare stupidly done shoot a long time ago, but today? No way man.

You show me a studio shooting like that and I'll show you a studio that is going bankrupt.
Show me a performer showing up fucked up to a shoot and you are seeing a performer who won't be getting many calls.

This is about making money.
You can't shoot sloppy shit of fucked up people and expect it to be worth a damn.
Especially today with the marketplace.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

safeword is "red" on kinks set. they go over this numerous times with the talent prior to rolling. so why any of this would go on is a mystery to me

Some people like to push boundaries, or at least think they can. It's also no secret that a lot of these girls have zero self esteem, so it's plausible some wouldn't ask to stop a shoot just out of fear of being rejected or even losing future gigs. Or maybe they just don't want to let people down. Lots of reasons why someone would endure a shoot when they probably shouldn't.

We have had to stop a handful of shoots when doing double anal. Girl has to re-group, clean up, or whatever, and she is always given the choice to continue or stop. They always keep going. And by "girl" I mean she has a penis.

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Regardless of what their models releases hitting girls with cattle prods and water boarding them is a criminal act, and I feel their directors and owners should be held accountable for these actions and be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

[TRPWL]

But you've also been saying that testing = prevention when in fact it does not. Testing =/= prevention

There is no fool proof plan..Number 3s test kept her from contaminating the talent pool...The talent pool needs to be thinned out or it will never get fixed..

As much as everyone hates FSC, the pass system is the best system at the moment..

When you apply for a job, 99% of the time the employers do some sort of background and testing, even contract labor is subject to certain checks..

Had Adams/Bay been checked out, this NEVER would have happened..There needs to be some sort of check and even a drug test...

I know a agent who vets his girls and his girls never fuck shyt up and i know another ex agent who never checks her girls and oddly its that roster that always seems to be in the mix...