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2MuchMark 09-04-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19785517)
I enjoyed it. Bought the soundtrack.

Interesting... I am considering doing the same thing. (I also bought Tron: Legacy and Inception).



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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 19785645)
You watched it two times in a row? Wow don't think I've ever done that for any movie, ever.

I know... to be honest there was nothing else on and I couldn't sleep so why not...

Another good movie I watched twice in a row was "The Prestige" (Chris Nolan Movie) but only because when I went to bad after watching it, I couldn't sleep because the movie stuck in my head and I felt like I had missed a huge reveal at the end, which I did.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19785708)
there is nothing *smart* about that movie.

easily one of the dumbest sci-fi flicks with a very VERY hollywood/tom cruise ending with plenty of plot holes starting with the scavs need to ------ cruise to begin with.

Ack! Spoiler dude! Don't spoil movies...

dyna mo 09-04-2013 12:17 PM

movie has been out for ages, if someone gets butthurt reading this thread over a spoiler, they need to hit the theater sooner.

Chosen 09-04-2013 12:25 PM

Good movie indeed :thumbsup

Scott McD 09-04-2013 12:27 PM

Never seen it. Might check it out now though, even with the mixed reviews on here...

klinton 09-04-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19786290)
I really WANTED to like this movie, but in the end, I thought it sucked just about as much as District 9... maybe it sucked a little bit more. Oh well, to each his own.

district 9 = one of best sci fi movies...........

_Richard_ 09-04-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19786556)
district 9 = one of best sci fi movies...........

:2 cents::2 cents:

2MuchMark 09-04-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19786162)
for starters there is absolutely no need for the aliens to clone us.

in fact, that's pretty stupid. an enemy cloning its enemy?




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WARNING : SPOILERS BELOW : DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET.
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It makes sense to me. These were the only humans they had met and or swallowed up. They destroyed the moon and therefore most of the earth. There's no hint that they were ever on earth. They need the clones to fix the drones.

One possible hole in the movie was that according to the maps you see, there are many "radioactive" zones for Jack (or each "Jack") to avoid, suggesting that there are "Jacks" in each zone, fixing drones etc. It's established that Jack remembers his wife via dreams, and its established that clone Jack has the same dreams. We can therefore assume that all jacks have the same dream, and that probably sooner or later more Jacks will find the one surviving wife. Oblivion Gang bang.

2MuchMark 09-04-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19786250)
you can make it personal if you want, doesn't change the fact everything you wrote is bullshit.

so an alien *presence* can make (and needs to make) physical spacecraft that hurl this *presence that has no physical manifestation yet requires a spaceship* across the universe(s) with this grand military plan that entirely requires cloning, not just their enemy, but the best of the best enemy fighters.


that's lollercoaster shit man! come on. i can go on....

Of course what Bronco67 said makes sense. As for your argument, don't forget that you never see the actual aliens. They may not be physical at all, or, they may not be able to survive on earth for whatever reason.

All you see are the machines that convert water into energy. Jack is told that its for the colony on Jupiters Moon but of course its for the Tet and the Aliens that run it.

2MuchMark 09-04-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19786284)
i know what you meant. you're presuming i didn't pay attention.

anyhoo, movieing on, the real lollercoaster moment was when morgan freeman popped outta the box after cruise put his wife in it and headed up to a main ship. wait, whut.

Jack recites stanza XXVII of "Horatius" from the "Lays of Ancient Rome" before triggering the nuclear device and destroying the Tet. Earlier in the movie he sais "Everybody dies. The thing is, to die well". He is giving Moran's character an amazing death.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19786284)
fun to watch but certainly not smart.

Too bad. I thought it was pretty smart.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19786284)
prolly the big plot problem was casting cruise in a clone flick. cruise doesn't die in his movies, so as soon as it was revealed it was a clone movie, which was in act 1, then the ending was shot for me. cruise was a clone and there was at least 1 other 1

Ok but most other actors don't die in their movies either. Did you see the last Star Trek? Kirk "Died", but didn't... grrr...

TumblrPRO 09-04-2013 06:34 PM

This movie sucks so much. Mediocre, Boring as fuck, truly previsible, etc...

Anyone who liked it, probably doesn't understand too much about good cinema or is easily entertained with mediocre stuff. Nothing personal to anyone, tho... But it's the truth.

I watched Oblivion in Cinema and was truly disappointed, it's way over rated. There are a lot of better movies than this in the same topic, and rating it with 6 points in IMDB would be too generous already. It has 7 points, like many other over-rated movies.

I really liked TRON from the same Director, tho. That was a good one.

Penny24Seven 09-04-2013 06:54 PM

fifty ruined movies

2MuchMark 09-04-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19786794)
This movie sucks so much. Mediocre, Boring as fuck, truly previsible, etc...

Anyone who liked it, probably doesn't understand too much about good cinema or is easily entertained with mediocre stuff. Nothing personal to anyone, tho... But it's the truth.

I watched Oblivion in Cinema and was truly disappointed, it's way over rated. There are a lot of better movies than this in the same topic, and rating it with 6 points in IMDB would be too generous already. It has 7 points, like many other over-rated movies.

I really liked TRON from the same Director, tho. That was a good one.

I liked Tron: Legacy too. Loved it actually. Saw it twice in IMAX and a few times on blu ray. Music was awesome too.

I found myself reminded of Tron while watching Obivion. The color of the drone's scanners, the swimming pool, etc... Tron-ish.

GAMEFINEST 09-04-2013 07:28 PM

it was good

AJ_NETWORK 09-04-2013 08:19 PM

It's the best sci-fi since the matrix. The crazy thing that most people don't know is that it parallels reality and the military. The Tet represents the illuminati and the all seeing eye, and like Jack and Victoria we are duped into killing our fellow human beings through false motives only for the benefit of an elite evil entity trying to control every aspect of our lives for their own gain.

dyna mo 09-04-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19786578)
Of course what Bronco67 said makes sense. As for your argument, don't forget that you never see the actual aliens. They may not be physical at all, or, they may not be able to survive on earth for whatever reason.

All you see are the machines that convert water into energy. Jack is told that its for the colony on Jupiters Moon but of course its for the Tet and the Aliens that run it.

but we do see an alien, the one cruise bullshits to get access in the mothership. which simply doesn't jibe with the entire *reason* to clone.

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19786581)
Jack recites stanza XXVII of "Horatius" from the "Lays of Ancient Rome" before triggering the nuclear device and destroying the Tet. Earlier in the movie he sais "Everybody dies. The thing is, to die well". He is giving Moran's character an amazing death.




Too bad. I thought it was pretty smart.



Ok but most other actors don't die in their movies either. Did you see the last Star Trek? Kirk "Died", but didn't... grrr...

come on now, you have to admit it was a huge plot leap to have morgan freeman in that box. you didn't go "wtf, i just saw cruise put his wife in there???""

certainly you did.

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19786821)
fifty ruined movies

well, you know, that's pretty much right. we all know going into a cruise movie he ain't dying and the way these big budget movies have to be scripted to appeal to mass audiences, well.

nevertheless, i like cruise movies and was entertained but yeah, with a different actor they could have made a dang good sci-fi because the story really had potential.

amateurcanada 09-04-2013 08:22 PM

Smart movie - I was becoming a hater of Cruise until I saw this. A+

Far-L 09-04-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19786162)
for starters there is absolutely no need for the aliens to clone us.

in fact, that's pretty stupid. an enemy cloning its enemy?




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Ok, I agree the movie had a ton of plot holes... but... the enemy cloning its enemy is not such a far fetched idea at all, especially if you cast in light of what may or may not be happening in Syria, and what has definitely been proven to be an intrinsic part of how things were done in the past with "secret wars" waged by the CIA, KGB, etc. :2 cents:

bronco67 09-05-2013 05:17 AM

I just watched it again last night on Blu Ray. Beautiful looking movie...and the plot holds together for me minus Dyna Mo's point about gaining access to the Tet. I also thought the women's roles should have been reversed. Kurylenko would have been better as the dutiful, neatly dressed clone -- and Riseborough(the stronger actress) as the wife.

Speaking of the women, which one would you hit first? I know Olga Kurylenko is conventionally more beautiful, but something about Irish redheads turn me on.

http://i.imgur.com/ngQlvb7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bOms3e4.jpg




http://i.imgur.com/8JqAPUK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wH1taxp.jpg

Phoenix 09-05-2013 05:34 AM

i love sci fi i read at least one short story per day before i go to sleep.
This was a good movie, a little easy to see what was coming, but still good.

Plot holes? I doubt they would have fooled them with the body switch.
However you never know, they werent able to track their own flying machine when it went off course.

dyna mo 09-05-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19787039)
Ok, I agree the movie had a ton of plot holes... but... the enemy cloning its enemy is not such a far fetched idea at all, especially if you cast in light of what may or may not be happening in Syria, and what has definitely been proven to be an intrinsic part of how things were done in the past with "secret wars" waged by the CIA, KGB, etc. :2 cents:

i see the comparison, perhaps i was looking at the cloning more at face value rather than a metaphor for social issues, which is a big part of sci-fi for me that i like a lot, one of the the things that makes district 9 such a compelling sci-fi and star trek certainly.

that said, i hope that aliens that are advanced enough to figure out how to travel the universe would not have a usa foreign policy strategy! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19787325)
I just watched it again last night on Blu Ray. Beautiful looking movie...and the plot holds together for me minus Dyna Mo's point about gaining access to the Tet. I also thought the women's roles should have been reversed. Kurylenko would have been better as the dutiful, neatly dressed clone -- and Riseborough(the stronger actress) as the wife.

Speaking of the women, which one would you hit first? I know Olga Kurylenko is conventionally more beautiful, but something about Irish redheads turn me on.

http://i.imgur.com/ngQlvb7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bOms3e4.jpg




http://i.imgur.com/8JqAPUK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wH1taxp.jpg

i'm going to watch it again, maybe not the ending though ;-) . it's certainly a good looking movie, perhaps i went into it with a pre-concieved idea that tom cruise makes it more entertainment and less cerebral. but there's vanilla sky- very cerebral and an xcllnt cruise movie.

+ the oblivion soundtrack is a big +


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