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Old 09-02-2013, 07:01 AM   #1
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Ok this is fuckin cool: Go James and Stoya!



Porn industry's gaining more and more "mainstream acceptance" every day!
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btw who's seen the canyons! cool ass movie and james deen is truly awesome in it! (and I used to be the biggest james deen hater!)!

see the movie, he out-acts even lindsay lohan! and definitely this nolan funk guy who is the weakest actor in the movie imo.

Here's what the VARIETY's Scott Foundas wrote about the movie (according to PETER WARREN at AVN) "[director Schraeder's] most stylish picture in years, probably since Auto Focus." Foundas was even more effusive about Deen, hailing him as "a minor revelation" and going on to crow, "... the actor is used here for maximum smiling-psycho value—another in Ellis' expansive gallery of spoiled brats who've never stopped wanting to get their way, even if they have to kill for it. And Deen is more than up for the challenge; he holds the camera captive with his chilly, privately amused stare."

Oh don't worry, Variety is just a small, non-influential publication here in Hollywood ;)

I can't believe James Deen is now on the same "level" as Christian Bale and James Vanderbeek in that they all 3 gave brilliant performances (Van Der Beek's in "Rules of Attraction" was the best of his career imho, see THAT movie if you havent) as Bret East Ellis' lead male "complex" characters.

"Hell hath frozen over jeezus!" - I mean, James Deen is Kissing Stoya on JUST JARED because he's starring in a movie that is in the Venice Film Festival.

EDIT - LOL at this:

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you obviously did not try to watch/sit through that movie.

deen's *acting* is simply a shit-eating grin in a horrible movie film.
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you obviously did not try to watch/sit through that movie.

deen's *acting* is simply a shit-eating grin in a horrible movie film.
daaang who invited the "russian judge" lol
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did you really find that movie was cool and deen's acting awesome?
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I can't believe James Deen is now on the same "level" as Christian Bale and James Vanderbeek
This is funny on multiple levels...most likely unintentionally.
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well well well jame vanderdouche

his best role after dawson!

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Hmmm, to you two above haters, I would trust VARIETY'S REVIEW over you clowns any day

btw I found the full variety review:
from http://variety.com/2013/film/reviews...ew-1200567452/

"The signature psychosexual perversity of director Paul Schrader finds its nearly perfect match in novelist Bret Easton Ellis, whose screenplay for Schrader’s “The Canyons” might just as soon have been called “Psycho American Gigolo” or “The Hardcore Rules of Attraction.” The first in the new wave of Kickstarter-funded features instigated by established old-media types, Schrader’s ultra-low-budget (reportedly $250,000) but handsomely made study of low-level Hollywood hangers-on has earned much prerelease attention for the casting of real-life porn star James Deen and the troubled Lindsay Lohan (also one of the pic’s co-producers). But the end result is hardly a joke, not least for Lohan’s fascinating presence, far closer to self-revelation than self-parody. Between VOD curiosity seekers and adventurous arthouse-goers, “The Canyons” is sure to see solid returns on its modest investment, while pushing Schrader back into the zeitgeist after a long fallow period.

The latest but surely not the last 2013 release devoted to the amoral (s)exploits of hungry young things clawing at the good life (e.g. “The Bling Ring,” “Pain & Gain,” “Spring Breakers”), “The Canyons” is also the most overt in its evocation of such caustic industry cautionary tales as “The Day of the Locust” and “The Bad and the Beautiful.” To wit, Schrader makes a recurring motif out of boarded-up old movie theaters (seen as a montage under the opening credits and as chapter headings throughout), suggesting that Tinseltown ain’t what it used to be and, yes, the pictures — like “The Canyons” itself — really have gotten smaller. There is something of David Lynch’s “Mulholland Dr.” and “Inland Empire,” too, in the pic’s sense of a place where everyone is always playing some alternate version of him- or herself, whether onscreen or off.

Like the director’s 1990 “The Comfort of Strangers,” “The Canyons” charts the increasingly treacherous aftershocks that stem from the initial encounter of two couples: smug rich kid Christian (Deen), who’s invested in a low-budget slasher movie about to shoot in New Mexico; his girlfriend, Tara (Lohan); his assistant, Gina (Amanda Brooks); and her boyfriend, Ryan (Nolan Funk), an aspiring actor who’s landed the lead in Christian’s movie. They meet over dinner and drinks, during which Christian stuns the fresh-faced, Joe Buck-ish Ryan with tales of his and Tara’s open relationship, including frequent additional partners of both sexes. (He is, when the movie begins, going though “a dude phase.”)

We soon learn that, three years earlier, when they were both nobodies, Ryan and Tara were themselves an item. Now, ever since reconnecting at Ryan’s audition, they’ve been meeting for illicit afternoon hookups, but while Ryan is still smitten, Tara is more pragmatic. She’s not interested in going back to their old, hardscrabble life together, she tells him in an early scene set at the Century City shopping mall — a scene Lohan plays with such raw conviction that you can’t be sure who’s more afraid of slipping back into working-stiff anonymity, her or her character.

It doesn’t take long for the jealous Christian to figure out what’s going on under his blow-dusted nose, and to plot his revenge. It’s the least interesting aspect of the movie, though Deen is a minor revelation in the role. Having garnered a lot of ink in recent years as the nice-Jewish-boy porn star with the high IQ and rocket-scientist parents, the actor is used here for maximum smiling-psycho value — another in Ellis’ expansive gallery of spoiled brats who’ve never stopped wanting to get their way, even if they have to kill for it. And Deen is more than up for the challenge; he holds the camera captive with his chilly, privately amused stare.

What Christian really wants to do is direct, as evidenced by the amateur sex videos he makes starring himself, Tara and a variety of special guest stars. But if the sex in “The Canyons” is duly kinky and explicit — and surely one of the pic’s selling points, thanks to Lohan’s ample bosom and Deen’s celebrated schlong — it seems almost parochial compared with what the characters do to each other when they have their clothes on. Certainly, it’s no more outre than anything in “Basic Instinct” (which may be a measure of just how chaste movies have gotten again in the last 20 years). Schrader and Ellis’ intended showstopper — a four-way mini-orgy between Christian, Tara and an anonymous couple recruited online — unfolds mostly as closeups on faces, and could almost be accused of being tasteful were it not for the blanket of swirling multi-colored lights that turn the scene into an X-rated version of the Main Street Electrical Parade.

Gratuitous lighting effects aside, the guerrilla shoot seems to have reinvigorated Schrader, and the result is his most stylish picture in years, probably since “Auto Focus.” Shot in sleek widescreen HD by John DeFazio, with a pulsing, Giorgio Moroder-esque electronic score (credited to Brendan Canning and the Canadian duo Me and John), the movie’s surfaces gleam as attractively as its toned and tanned bodies, the latter constantly framed small against vast canvases of Oceanside bluffs, Sunset Boulevard traffic and hazy nighttime skies. This, Schrader seems to be saying, is the flame to which the moths are drawn, even if it is ultimately no more than a flickering illusion. The phrase Pauline Kael once used to describe Schrader’s aesthetic springs readily to mind: “apocalyptic swank.”

“The Canyons” doesn’t engender much sympathy for its characters — even nice-guy Ryan (convincingly played by Funk as just another pretty, none-too-bright face in the crowd) ultimately comes across as a cipher, to say nothing of Gina, who seems less concerned about her boyfriend’s infidelities than about the possibility of losing her credit on Christian’s movie. The major exception is Lohan, who gives one of those performances, like Marlon Brando’s in “Last Tango in Paris,” that comes across as some uncanny conflagration of drama and autobiography. Lohan may not go as deep or as far as Brando, but with her puffy skin, gaudy hoop earrings and thick eye makeup, there’s a little-girl-lost quality to the onetime Disney teen princess that’s very affecting. Whenever she’s onscreen, she projects a sense of just barely holding on to that precarious slide area in the shadow of the Hollywood sign."

bronco67 and dyna mo do you really think this man who writes professionally for Variety is "wrong" and you are "right" about this film?

BRONCO have you seen Rules of Attraction? Directed by Roger Avary who co-won the oscar for best screenplay with Tarantino for Pulp Fiction? btw after he directed the awesome movie Rules of Attraction, he happened to go to jail, but that doesn't take away from how awesome the movie is or how yes awesome Jame Van Der Beek is in the movie, which I'm almost sure you haven't seen. Am I right?

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Isn't that movie intentionally cheesy, as in a soap opera??
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it's not a matter of being right or wrong about a movie. if a reviewer gushes about a movie and i don't like the movie, i can't change my mind and like the movie because a talking head needed to fill up a column so he says he likes the movie. same with music, if i don't like a song and a reviewer likes the song, it's not who's right and who is wrong.
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it's not a matter of being right or wrong about a movie. if a reviewer gushes about a movie and i don't like the movie, i can't change my mind and like the movie because a talking head needed to fill up a column so he says he likes the movie. same with music, if i don't like a song and a reviewer likes the song, it's not who's right and who is wrong.
Ok you're right about that.
But you accused me of not actually watching or sitting through the movie, which is very clearly untrue. That's what I don't understand. And what irks me is that this bronco guy has probably not even seen the rules of attraction. Dyno mo Have you seen rules of attraction? Have you seen American psycho?

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well, i did go back and clarify my comment by asking you if you really thought the movie was good and deen's acting was awesome.

yes, i have seen rules of attraction, i actually get a guilty pleasure from watching shit vanderbeek is in, that's how i knew of the ke$ha vanderdouche vid.

he's was in "don't trust the b in apartment 23, he alsoplays himself in that, before it was canceled, and had me loling quite a bit.

i own american psycho on streaming. it's good enough, my only problem with that movie is it was directed by a female, i don't think a female's portrayal of a serial killer is very good. that said, the movie has some great one liners and such delivered by bale.
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well, i did go back and clarify my comment by asking you if you really thought the movie was good and deen's acting was awesome.

yes, i have seen rules of attraction, i actually get a guilty pleasure from watching shit vanderbeek is in, that's how i knew of the ke$ha vanderdouche vid.

he's was in "don't trust the b in apartment 23, he alsoplays himself in that, before it was canceled, and had me loling quite a bit.

i own american psycho on streaming. it's good enough, my only problem with that movie is it was directed by a female, i don't think a female's portrayal of a serial killer is very good. that said, the movie has some great one liners and such delivered by bale.
My biggest vanderbeek guilty pleasure is Varsity Blues.. with My BOY Jon Voight who's kicking ass in Ray Donovan!
Now if only fucking time warner would settle with showtime!!!

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Deen was once mean to me.

He didn't need to be.

He will PAY.

His fame is not here to stay.

Porn will never be mainstream.

It's just your dream.
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Tho I do agree this is paul schrader's best work in years since he hasn't made anything above pure excrement level since AFFLICTION in 1997 and that was over 30 years ago. For good paul schrader gossip read easy riders raging bulls, he could never bang anyone and it made him krazy
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Tho I do agree this is paul schrader's best work in years since he hasn't made anything above pure excrement level since AFFLICTION in 1997 and that was over 30 years ago. For good paul schrader gossip read easy riders raging bulls, he could never bang anyone and it made him krazy
Post of the eon son!
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Deen was once mean to me.

He didn't need to be.

He will PAY.

His fame is not here to stay.

Porn will never be mainstream.

It's just your dream.
Wait I take that back. This rhyme thing that you wrote is the post of the whatever time period is longer than eons.
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I ain't watching a Deen's movie in which he doesn't fuck, or does he?
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I enjoyed it and the path they took to getting it made.

It's a profitable venture and in filmmaking, that comes first and foremost. With the story coming in a close second place. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Looks riveting...

Only made about $50,000 in it's first month of release (pretty sure that qualifies as a bomb):

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Domestic Total as of Aug. 29, 2013: $50,165
Distributor: IFC Release Date: August 2, 2013
Genre: Romantic Thriller Runtime: 1 hrs. 39 min.
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The film holds a 22% approval rating on aggregate review site Rotten Tomatoes with an average score of 3.9/10, based on 67 reviews.
I'm guessing this will not start a trend of adult stars crossing over to mainstream...



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Only made about $50,000 in it's first month of release (pretty sure that qualifies as a bomb):

dude what? those numbers of domestic total are for theatrical release ie all the indy theatres that are show its box office cume totals.
Obviously it isn't going to make its $ theatrically - im surprised it even made that much on that platform.
it is killing it though on vod - on demand, etc. etc etc. _ i know I paid for it and I know many many people are paying for it so they can watch lindsay lohans boobs at home!

adg, maybe dig a little deeper and try pulling up those on demand/ itunes/ vod #'s

and fuck those snobs at rotten tomatoes assholes haters.
adg read some of the fans comments about the movie compared to what rotten tomatoes pretentious assholes wrote:


https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/th...ns/id675561118

in fact adg, you should just watch the movie yourself! i highly recommend it - dont judge by just merely the 1st three minutes bro

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I enjoyed it and the path they took to getting it made.

It's a profitable venture and in filmmaking, that comes first and foremost. With the story coming in a close second place. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
i really wanted to like it. i was interested because i'm rooting for lindsey lohan to get her shit together, i think that would be cool as shit, robert downey jr style. so far, it ain't happenin!
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i really wanted to like it. i was interested because i'm rooting for lindsey lohan to get her shit together, i think that would be cool as shit, robert downey jr style. so far, it ain't happenin!
If you liked rules of attraction and B.E.E.'s stuff how did you not like The Canyons???
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i don't think i am a bee fan. i like lindey lohan, i think anyway, i liked her in mean girls and on snl, but i guess other than her tits and freckles, maybe that's about it so maybe that's why. but the whole down and out in hollywood while banging hot chicks in fat mansions story just didn't ring true.
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Looks riveting...

Only made about $50,000 in it's first month of release (pretty sure that qualifies as a bomb):





I'm guessing this will not start a trend of adult stars crossing over to mainstream...



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I got as far as 1min 4 seconds. She puts the handset to her left ear and zoom out it is up to her right...
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Hmmm, to you two above haters, I would trust VARIETY'S REVIEW over you clowns any day

btw I found the full variety review:
from http://variety.com/2013/film/reviews...ew-1200567452/

"The signature psychosexual perversity of director Paul Schrader finds its nearly perfect match in novelist Bret Easton Ellis, whose screenplay for Schrader?s ?The Canyons? might just as soon have been called ?Psycho American Gigolo? or ?The Hardcore Rules of Attraction.? The first in the new wave of Kickstarter-funded features instigated by established old-media types, Schrader?s ultra-low-budget (reportedly $250,000) but handsomely made study of low-level Hollywood hangers-on has earned much prerelease attention for the casting of real-life porn star James Deen and the troubled Lindsay Lohan (also one of the pic?s co-producers). But the end result is hardly a joke, not least for Lohan?s fascinating presence, far closer to self-revelation than self-parody. Between VOD curiosity seekers and adventurous arthouse-goers, ?The Canyons? is sure to see solid returns on its modest investment, while pushing Schrader back into the zeitgeist after a long fallow period.

The latest but surely not the last 2013 release devoted to the amoral (s)exploits of hungry young things clawing at the good life (e.g. ?The Bling Ring,? ?Pain & Gain,? ?Spring Breakers?), ?The Canyons? is also the most overt in its evocation of such caustic industry cautionary tales as ?The Day of the Locust? and ?The Bad and the Beautiful.? To wit, Schrader makes a recurring motif out of boarded-up old movie theaters (seen as a montage under the opening credits and as chapter headings throughout), suggesting that Tinseltown ain?t what it used to be and, yes, the pictures ? like ?The Canyons? itself ? really have gotten smaller. There is something of David Lynch?s ?Mulholland Dr.? and ?Inland Empire,? too, in the pic?s sense of a place where everyone is always playing some alternate version of him- or herself, whether onscreen or off.

Like the director?s 1990 ?The Comfort of Strangers,? ?The Canyons? charts the increasingly treacherous aftershocks that stem from the initial encounter of two couples: smug rich kid Christian (Deen), who?s invested in a low-budget slasher movie about to shoot in New Mexico; his girlfriend, Tara (Lohan); his assistant, Gina (Amanda Brooks); and her boyfriend, Ryan (Nolan Funk), an aspiring actor who?s landed the lead in Christian?s movie. They meet over dinner and drinks, during which Christian stuns the fresh-faced, Joe Buck-ish Ryan with tales of his and Tara?s open relationship, including frequent additional partners of both sexes. (He is, when the movie begins, going though ?a dude phase.?)

We soon learn that, three years earlier, when they were both nobodies, Ryan and Tara were themselves an item. Now, ever since reconnecting at Ryan?s audition, they?ve been meeting for illicit afternoon hookups, but while Ryan is still smitten, Tara is more pragmatic. She?s not interested in going back to their old, hardscrabble life together, she tells him in an early scene set at the Century City shopping mall ? a scene Lohan plays with such raw conviction that you can?t be sure who?s more afraid of slipping back into working-stiff anonymity, her or her character.

It doesn?t take long for the jealous Christian to figure out what?s going on under his blow-dusted nose, and to plot his revenge. It?s the least interesting aspect of the movie, though Deen is a minor revelation in the role. Having garnered a lot of ink in recent years as the nice-Jewish-boy porn star with the high IQ and rocket-scientist parents, the actor is used here for maximum smiling-psycho value ? another in Ellis? expansive gallery of spoiled brats who?ve never stopped wanting to get their way, even if they have to kill for it. And Deen is more than up for the challenge; he holds the camera captive with his chilly, privately amused stare.

What Christian really wants to do is direct, as evidenced by the amateur sex videos he makes starring himself, Tara and a variety of special guest stars. But if the sex in ?The Canyons? is duly kinky and explicit ? and surely one of the pic?s selling points, thanks to Lohan?s ample bosom and Deen?s celebrated schlong ? it seems almost parochial compared with what the characters do to each other when they have their clothes on. Certainly, it?s no more outre than anything in ?Basic Instinct? (which may be a measure of just how chaste movies have gotten again in the last 20 years). Schrader and Ellis? intended showstopper ? a four-way mini-orgy between Christian, Tara and an anonymous couple recruited online ? unfolds mostly as closeups on faces, and could almost be accused of being tasteful were it not for the blanket of swirling multi-colored lights that turn the scene into an X-rated version of the Main Street Electrical Parade.

Gratuitous lighting effects aside, the guerrilla shoot seems to have reinvigorated Schrader, and the result is his most stylish picture in years, probably since ?Auto Focus.? Shot in sleek widescreen HD by John DeFazio, with a pulsing, Giorgio Moroder-esque electronic score (credited to Brendan Canning and the Canadian duo Me and John), the movie?s surfaces gleam as attractively as its toned and tanned bodies, the latter constantly framed small against vast canvases of Oceanside bluffs, Sunset Boulevard traffic and hazy nighttime skies. This, Schrader seems to be saying, is the flame to which the moths are drawn, even if it is ultimately no more than a flickering illusion. The phrase Pauline Kael once used to describe Schrader?s aesthetic springs readily to mind: ?apocalyptic swank.?

?The Canyons? doesn?t engender much sympathy for its characters ? even nice-guy Ryan (convincingly played by Funk as just another pretty, none-too-bright face in the crowd) ultimately comes across as a cipher, to say nothing of Gina, who seems less concerned about her boyfriend?s infidelities than about the possibility of losing her credit on Christian?s movie. The major exception is Lohan, who gives one of those performances, like Marlon Brando?s in ?Last Tango in Paris,? that comes across as some uncanny conflagration of drama and autobiography. Lohan may not go as deep or as far as Brando, but with her puffy skin, gaudy hoop earrings and thick eye makeup, there?s a little-girl-lost quality to the onetime Disney teen princess that?s very affecting. Whenever she?s onscreen, she projects a sense of just barely holding on to that precarious slide area in the shadow of the Hollywood sign."

bronco67 and dyna mo do you really think this man who writes professionally for Variety is "wrong" and you are "right" about this film?

BRONCO have you seen Rules of Attraction? Directed by Roger Avary who co-won the oscar for best screenplay with Tarantino for Pulp Fiction? btw after he directed the awesome movie Rules of Attraction, he happened to go to jail, but that doesn't take away from how awesome the movie is or how yes awesome Jame Van Der Beek is in the movie, which I'm almost sure you haven't seen. Am I right?
jesus fuck hhhat is all thsi?
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that is the review of The Canyons in the publication "Variety"
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I wouldn't want to judge it without seeing the whole thing, but this looks like the cinematic equivalent of runny diarrhea.
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I really really liked this movie too! Go James!
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I enjoyed it and the path they took to getting it made.

It's a profitable venture and in filmmaking, that comes first and foremost. With the story coming in a close second place. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
so was leprechaun 4 and nobody gives a shit about that movie or would ever watch it again..

They can be profitable all they want if its a bag of shit it will remain that whether the producer makes some money slinging it or not... Anyone can produce something and make it profitable, not many can tell a story that people will remember and for the real filmakers that's always worth more.
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