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Jimmer · 03-01-2003, 09:09 AM

I would sell it back

brutus · 03-01-2003, 09:23 AM

No problem... I think all of registrars send you few emails calling you to renew or change the registrar long before the expiration day and in most cases you could renew the domain few weeks / even few months after expiration - depends of the registrar. So, no one can actually accidentally loose the domain ( exluding hijacking ) etc. So, what's the problem?

Jer · 03-01-2003, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... thanks for the input guys, well I am not going to ask for a tax return copy ... but I will give this domain back ... it has little value to me and is an important thing to that woman ... so hell yes, let´s give it back to her after all I am a nice guy and hopefully she will learn for the future ....

JFK · 03-01-2003, 11:07 AM

I had recently decided not to renew some domains. I had so many last minute warnings about the expiry that you wouldnt believe ! There is absolutely no reason for any one to loose one if they give a shit

xerox · 03-01-2003, 11:16 AM

Most domain registrars send you notices saying "Your domain will be expired in 7 days" about 3 or 4 times until its expired. Most domain registrars have a 'auto renew" option. Its her own damn fault. Dont feel sorry for her, if she had a sucessfull ebusiness then she would have common sence to know these things and pay the $9 to renew it.

Also, when a domain is expired, you CANT use DNS or anything. So that would of been about 45 days before you registered it that her domain was unusable. My guess is its some fat guy who wanted the domain but you got it first so he is making up some story about it.

DatingGold · 03-01-2003, 12:23 PM

what software do you use to find expired domains?

I use www.expireddomainscript.com

funkmaster · 03-01-2003, 12:40 PM

I use a selfcompiled database that I monitor 4 times per day. all those expired domain services didn´t work for me.

... I live by ONE rule: if you want stuff to get done, do it by yourself !

btw: the domain is back under the former owners controll.

SleazyDream · 03-01-2003, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
I had recently decided not to renew some domains. I had so many last minute warnings about the expiry that you wouldnt believe ! There is absolutely no reason for any one to loose one if they give a shit

actually I never got any warning on a few of mine that expired with dotster.

Snake Doctor · 03-01-2003, 03:27 PM

Here's what I don't get. There is a delay between the time the domain expires and the time the registar lets someone else pick it up right?
So once the domain expired was the registrar still allowing the DNS to point to the owner's site? Or did it go to some "renew your domain" or just to the registar's home page?

I don't see why they would forward the DNS for a site that was no longer registered.

So her story about how she can't make a living now that you bought her domain is bullshit, she wasn't getting any of the traffic for 2 months BEFORE you picked it up.

funkmaster · 03-01-2003, 03:35 PM

Lenny2, that´s not 100% correct ... I have most of my domains with domainnamesystems.com and they leave the DNS the way it was when domains have expired ...

... but I can not speak for other registrars

Phil21 · 03-01-2003, 04:07 PM

Funk,

If all your doing is using it for google PR, then why not compromise, and give her the domain back, but make her link somewhere as you direct? The link can be fairly hidden surfer-wise of course.

Obviously not nearly as good as directly having the domain and exploiting it off the bat, but the added boost it could give the PR to your other domain would be at least something.

Then you know she's serious, and not just trying to scam you. And you don't have to feel like a jackass.

My annoyance right now is trying to come up w/ a simple name for a company that the fucking domain(s) are not taken. CHRIST. All those stupid fuck search engine scams have nearly anything good. Why didn't I just blow $100k 9 years ago and come out way on top? pfft.

-Phil

funkmaster · 03-01-2003, 05:01 PM

"My annoyance right now is trying to come up w/ a simple name for a company that the fucking domain(s) are not taken."

... hahaha, same here ... it´s a a pain in the neck, isn´t it ... have you tried http://www.whois.sc/ for domain brainstorming ... maybe that site can help you a bit ??

jojojo · 03-01-2003, 06:37 PM

I sitll don';t understand how you can grab these domain names so fast when they expire - most registars tell em you have to wait 30-60 days first etc?

Snake Doctor · 03-01-2003, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
Lenny2, that´s not 100% correct ... I have most of my domains with domainnamesystems.com and they leave the DNS the way it was when domains have expired ...

... but I can not speak for other registrars

Ahhhh ok, then her story makes sense.

She very well could have changed ISP's since the time she initially registered it, so didn't get the email notification that it was going to expire.

ineedmoney · 03-01-2003, 10:09 PM

If they are a dick, screw em. I had a "hacking" class in college and "someone" hacked our class box and sent out 2 GIGs of email to this guy in Massachusetts. he sent the professor an email calling him out and calling him a juvenile hacker. Lets just say there entire business went down after my professor got done. Moral of this is if they are cool, be nice about it, but if not fuck em!!!

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03-01-2003, 12:23 PM	#56
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03-01-2003, 03:27 PM	#59
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Here's what I don't get. There is a delay between the time the domain expires and the time the registar lets someone else pick it up right? So once the domain expired was the registrar still allowing the DNS to point to the owner's site? Or did it go to some "renew your domain" or just to the registar's home page? I don't see why they would forward the DNS for a site that was no longer registered. So her story about how she can't make a living now that you bought her domain is bullshit, she wasn't getting any of the traffic for 2 months BEFORE you picked it up. __________________ sig too big

03-01-2003, 06:37 PM	#63
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	I sitll don';t understand how you can grab these domain names so fast when they expire - most registars tell em you have to wait 30-60 days first etc? __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

03-01-2003, 09:09 AM	#51
Jimmer Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Waterloo Ont Posts: 878	I would sell it back

03-01-2003, 09:23 AM	#52
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	No problem... I think all of registrars send you few emails calling you to renew or change the registrar long before the expiration day and in most cases you could renew the domain few weeks / even few months after expiration - depends of the registrar. So, no one can actually accidentally loose the domain ( exluding hijacking ) etc. So, what's the problem?

03-01-2003, 11:16 AM	#55
xerox Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 672	Most domain registrars send you notices saying "Your domain will be expired in 7 days" about 3 or 4 times until its expired. Most domain registrars have a 'auto renew" option. Its her own damn fault. Dont feel sorry for her, if she had a sucessfull ebusiness then she would have common sence to know these things and pay the $9 to renew it. Also, when a domain is expired, you CANT use DNS or anything. So that would of been about 45 days before you registered it that her domain was unusable. My guess is its some fat guy who wanted the domain but you got it first so he is making up some story about it.

03-01-2003, 12:40 PM	#57
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	I use a selfcompiled database that I monitor 4 times per day. all those expired domain services didn´t work for me. ... I live by ONE rule: if you want stuff to get done, do it by yourself ! btw: the domain is back under the former owners controll.

03-01-2003, 03:35 PM	#60
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	Lenny2, that´s not 100% correct ... I have most of my domains with domainnamesystems.com and they leave the DNS the way it was when domains have expired ... ... but I can not speak for other registrars

03-01-2003, 04:07 PM	#61
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Funk, If all your doing is using it for google PR, then why not compromise, and give her the domain back, but make her link somewhere as you direct? The link can be fairly hidden surfer-wise of course. Obviously not nearly as good as directly having the domain and exploiting it off the bat, but the added boost it could give the PR to your other domain would be at least something. Then you know she's serious, and not just trying to scam you. And you don't have to feel like a jackass. My annoyance right now is trying to come up w/ a simple name for a company that the fucking domain(s) are not taken. CHRIST. All those stupid fuck search engine scams have nearly anything good. Why didn't I just blow $100k 9 years ago and come out way on top? pfft. -Phil

03-01-2003, 05:01 PM	#62
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"My annoyance right now is trying to come up w/ a simple name for a company that the fucking domain(s) are not taken." ... hahaha, same here ... it´s a a pain in the neck, isn´t it ... have you tried http://www.whois.sc/ for domain brainstorming ... maybe that site can help you a bit ??

03-01-2003, 10:09 PM	#65
ineedmoney Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Pornando Valley Posts: 11	If they are a dick, screw em. I had a "hacking" class in college and "someone" hacked our class box and sent out 2 GIGs of email to this guy in Massachusetts. he sent the professor an email calling him out and calling him a juvenile hacker. Lets just say there entire business went down after my professor got done. Moral of this is if they are cool, be nice about it, but if not fuck em!!!