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UEFA Champions League Draw

08-29-2013, 08:35 AM

Group A.

Manchester United
Shakhtar Donetsk
Bayern Leverkusen
Real Sociedad

Group B.

Real Madrid
Juventus
Galatasary
Copenhagen

Group C.

Benfica
PSG
Olympiakos
Anderlecht

Group D.

Bayern Munich
CSKA Moscow
Man City
Victoria Plezen

Group E.

Chelsea
Schalke
Basel
Steaua Bucharest

Group F.

Arsenal
Marseille
Borussia Dortmund
Napoli

Group G.

Porto
Athletico Madrid
Zenit St Petersburg
Austia Vienna

Group H.

Barcelona
Ac Milan
Ajax
Celtic

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08-29-2013, 08:38 AM

I'm still buzzing from the Celtic game last night. One of the best games i have ever been to. The atmosphere was just incredible.

What a group we have now though. Barca (again), Milan (again) and Ajax.

It doesn't get much harder than that. Glamour games though. All of them!

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08-29-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by Scott McD

What a group we have now though. Barca (again), Milan (again) and Ajax.

It doesn't get much harder than that. Glamour games though. All of them!

They'll be great matches though. And Amsterdam for the away leg is nice and close.
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08-29-2013, 08:42 AM

looks pretty well balanced this time

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08-29-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Scott McD

What a group we have now though. Barca (again), Milan (again) and Ajax.

It doesn't get much harder than that. Glamour games though. All of them!

They'll be great matches though. And Amsterdam for the away leg is nice and close.
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08-29-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Scott McD

What a group we have now though. Barca (again), Milan (again) and Ajax.

It doesn't get much harder than that. Glamour games though. All of them!

The Group of Death... good luck with that.
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08-29-2013, 09:46 AM

I'm hoping and praying the Barcelona game in Glasgow is in November so I can fly home to watch it. Either way, seeing any of those teams play I don't mind but I haven't had the chance to see Messi play in person yet, would be something pretty special. I'd settle for the same scoreline the last time they came to Glasgow!
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08-29-2013, 09:48 AM

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The Group of Death... good luck with that.

If anything, those 3 teams could all take points off each other. So i suppose that's one thing.

Our home form will have to be at it's absolute best again. With our budget for players etc anyway, we shouldn't even be close to competing with these teams. But we always seem to punch above our weight...

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08-29-2013, 12:12 PM

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08-29-2013, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by marcop

The Group of Death... good luck with that.

I think its group b - galata+juve+real
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08-29-2013, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Scott McD

If anything, those 3 teams could all take points off each other. So i suppose that's one thing.

Our home form will have to be at it's absolute best again. With our budget for players etc anyway, we shouldn't even be close to competing with these teams. But we always seem to punch above our weight...

Good point, you could get through with impressive home form, no team likes playing Celtic at home.
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08-29-2013, 01:04 PM

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08-29-2013, 01:06 PM

I wanted the Barca group for Steaua Bucharest, however we have a good chance to qualify against Chelsea, Schalke and Basel.

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08-29-2013, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Scott McD

I'm still buzzing from the Celtic game last night. One of the best games i have ever been to. The atmosphere was just incredible.

What a group we have now though. Barca (again), Milan (again) and Ajax.

It doesn't get much harder than that. Glamour games though. All of them!

That's a tough group good luck with that...

I am glad we are the favorite of Group C

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I wanted the Barca group for Steaua Bucharest, however we have a good chance to qualify against Chelsea, Schalke and Basel.

really?

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08-29-2013, 01:13 PM

Yeah, why not? Have you seen Steaua play lately? We've got a good team nowadays. I'm really confident we can finish the group on the second position.

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08-29-2013, 01:21 PM

yup Steaua will get at least the 2nd position for that group

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08-29-2013, 02:38 PM

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In which group does this team play?
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08-29-2013, 08:28 PM

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Be careful they could still land Suarez, Bale, Mata, Ronaldo and Pele before the end of the transfer window.

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08-29-2013, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Ross

I'm hoping and praying the Barcelona game in Glasgow is in November so I can fly home to watch it. Either way, seeing any of those teams play I don't mind but I haven't had the chance to see Messi play in person yet, would be something pretty special. I'd settle for the same scoreline the last time they came to Glasgow!

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08-30-2013, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by Scott McD

I'm still buzzing from the Celtic game last night. One of the best games i have ever been to. The atmosphere was just incredible.

What a group we have now though. Barca (again), Milan (again) and Ajax.

It doesn't get much harder than that. Glamour games though. All of them!

It'll be pretty awesome to watch none the less.
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08-30-2013, 02:25 AM

Group H is amazing, go A.C. Milan

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08-30-2013, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by AshleyC

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Nightmare. Well it's either fly home for the Ajax or Milan game. I think we can beat Ajax at Celtic park so I'll probably do that game. I wonder if I could extend my European trip to include Glasgow, I'm due back on September 29th anyway, would only be 4 extra days. I may have to look into that, after I leave Budapest just fly into Glasgow for a few days.
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08-30-2013, 07:01 AM

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11th Dec Barca v Celtic

Didn't want that to be the last game of the group.

Means if we need any points to qualify, we are fucked!

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08-30-2013, 07:55 AM

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Didn't want that to be the last game of the group.

Means if we need any points to qualify, we are fucked!

Not if Barca have already qualified, and rest a few players.
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08-30-2013, 08:03 AM

modern football is pure shit. if the name of this competition is champions league why the uefa allow 4 teams from 1 league...its boring we watch the same matches every year. where is ferencvaros, dynamo zagreb, crvena zvezda, levski sofia, legia warsawa, rosenborg, göteborg etc.
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08-30-2013, 08:10 AM

Yes indeed. I like where Arsenal is.

Originally posted by MaDalton

looks pretty well balanced this time

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08-30-2013, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by adultwebmestar

modern football is pure shit. if the name of this competition is champions league why the uefa allow 4 teams from 1 league...its boring we watch the same matches every year. where is ferencvaros, dynamo zagreb, crvena zvezda, levski sofia, legia warsawa, rosenborg, göteborg etc.

Every club's results in European competition over the past five years are counted equally, with no weighting to favour the most recent seasons - so the seeding reflects long-term consistency, rather than rewarding recent excellence.

Whether you think it is fair probably depends on which club you support and which country you come from. Although domestic results are not part of the calculation, the national coefficient counts towards each team's total too - so it is better to come from a country with a stronger record in Europe.

Leading countries 2013-14
1. Spain 77.141
2. England 70.320
3. Germany 68.998
4. Italy 54.688
5. Portugal 54.299
*24. Scotland 14.816
Top three countries get four teams in the Champions League.

The rules could do with a small revamp as players don't necessarily play in the country where they were born making the national results kind of irrelevant but when you look at the table above the majority of the world class players we all want to see are from those countries!

Its called the champions league for a reason. Why the hell would anyone want 4 teams in the competition from countries where the team that won the league cant even get any points in the group phase and worst case not even score a goal. The pre-qualifying stage is the chance for the teams you listed to get a shot at being in it but they were not good enough to do it.

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08-30-2013, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by adultwebmestar

modern football is pure shit. if the name of this competition is champions league why the uefa allow 4 teams from 1 league...its boring we watch the same matches every year. where is ferencvaros, dynamo zagreb, crvena zvezda, levski sofia, legia warsawa, rosenborg, göteborg etc.

If they dont qualify for the group stages tough.

The 4th team from EN/DE/ES all had to go through the pre qualifying.

Celtic does every year yet they manage it.

These aren't your usual champions league teams either.

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08-30-2013, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by AshleyC

Every club's results in European competition over the past five years are counted equally, with no weighting to favour the most recent seasons - so the seeding reflects long-term consistency, rather than rewarding recent excellence.

Whether you think it is fair probably depends on which club you support and which country you come from. Although domestic results are not part of the calculation, the national coefficient counts towards each team's total too - so it is better to come from a country with a stronger record in Europe.

Leading countries 2013-14
1. Spain 77.141
2. England 70.320
3. Germany 68.998
4. Italy 54.688
5. Portugal 54.299
*24. Scotland 14.816
Top three countries get four teams in the Champions League.

The rules could do with a small revamp as players don't necessarily play in the country where they were born making the national results kind of irrelevant but when you look at the table above the majority of the world class players we all want to see are from those countries!

Its called the champions league for a reason. Why the hell would anyone want 4 teams in the competition from countries where the team that won the league cant even get any points in the group phase and worst case not even score a goal. England is the only league where you have the real chance of a potential 4-6 teams that could win the league.

yeah i know it but i don't like it. we need a new competition in north europe and central east europe. polish, hungarian, croatian, serb, norwegen etc (under the top 15) market is huge but we can't improve in this case.
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08-30-2013, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by adultwebmestar

yeah i know it but i don't like it. we need a new competition in north europe and central east europe. polish, hungarian, croatian, serb, norwegen etc (under the top 15) market is huge but we can't improve in this case.

Is that called the europa league

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08-30-2013, 08:30 AM

Celtic beat Barcelona in the Champions League last year in the group stage, finished 2nd in that group, won the domestic league by a distance again, yet STILL had to come through 3 qualifying rounds yet again just to get in the group stage this year.

It's a pain in the ass but it won't change anytime soon.

It's like we are being punished because the other teams in our domestic league are shit...

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08-30-2013, 08:31 AM

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Is that called the europa league

you can earn 2-3 millions of dollar there if you are a srb,fro,nor etc team owner. while bale earns this money within a few months
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