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Old 08-30-2013, 06:37 AM   #51
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In-N -Out is a huge chain here in California, they serve a damn good hamburger. Not a mom and pop, just happens to be owned by one woman that believes in paying her employees better and the service shows
used to be $11 per hour years ago... did it go up?
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:43 AM   #52
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used to be $11 per hour years ago... did it go up?
$11 an hour is impossible to pay at a fast food place and be successful. oh wait...
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3819478.html
Doubling The Minimum Wage May Seem Insane, But It Happened In 1949
They nearly doubled it and prices didnt go thru the roof and the world didnt end. Imagine that.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:05 AM   #54
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Currently the full-time minimum wage for Adults in Australia is $16.37 per hour.
For the teens working in mcd it is less but any adult working there must be paid at least this.

Amazingly this min wage hasn't resulted in the collapse of the economy or society and somehow they even manage to afford to put a mcdonalds on every corner.

The minimum wage in the US for adults is a disgrace
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:50 AM   #55
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Doubling The Minimum Wage May Seem Insane, But It Happened In 1949
They nearly doubled it and prices didnt go thru the roof and the world didnt end. Imagine that.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:59 AM   #56
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The greatest weakness of capitalism and free market economics is that both assume the best in the individual will shine through. That each person wants more. That each person can achieve more. That each person is going to wake up each day and strive for more. That each person is never going to stop trying to better themselves, never stop improving their skills, never stop increasing their value in the workplace and never stop moving up the ladder of prosperity.

The problem is that idea of opportunity and prosperity and the fair and level playing field that allows each person to reach their potential,... doesn't sell as well as "hey man, nothing is your fault, do nothing to strive for more just flip burgers and just demand more because you're entitled".
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:03 AM   #57
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Doubling The Minimum Wage May Seem Insane, But It Happened In 1949
They nearly doubled it and prices didnt go thru the roof and the world didnt end. Imagine that.
Of course, because post world war/post depression in an industrial/agricultural economy in a nation with 1/4th of the current population and ZERO fast food franchises and similar jobs to speak of is perfectly analogous....

Funny how you guys are willing to argue that a free market will adjust, correct, find the answers and survive when it suits your purposes... then argue that it is the root of all evil when it doesn't.
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Of course, because post world war/post depression in an industrial/agricultural economy in a nation with 1/4th of the current population and ZERO fast food franchises and similar jobs to speak of is perfectly analogous....

Funny how you guys are willing to argue that a free market will adjust, correct, find the answers and survive when it suits your purposes... then argue that it is the root of all evil when it doesn't.
Oh come on, use some logic. There is no difference between postwar 1949 and 2013. Illegal aliens, fast food joints don't even factor into things.
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$11 an hour is impossible to pay at a fast food place and be successful. oh wait...
Not for in & out, the amount of people that cycle through that place is crazy. Every one I have been in, was non stop Flow of people.. For people that have never been, it isn't like Mcdonalds, where you stand in line forever, wait for food forever, then sit down to a fast food meal like it was family dinner chat.. Oh wait.. ok

Lines move fast, food comes out fast for amount of people being served, people seem to clear tables fast since people are standing and eating waiting on a table...

I am sure it might not always be like this, as I do not have one local to me...
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Kids this year are getting an average of $3.70 per lost tooth, a 23 per cent jump over last year's rate of $3 a tooth, according to a new survey by payment processor Visa Inc., released Friday. That's a 42 per cent spike from the $2.60 per tooth that the Tooth Fairy gave in 2011.

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Old 08-30-2013, 10:20 AM   #61
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I believe that everyone SHOULD get what they deserve. If $7 an hour isn't enough to live, they HAVE TO increase the salaries. So $15 an hour isn't a big deal for fast food companies, they can pay it and they know it.

They are making BILLIONS of dollars, "capitalism" shouldn't be that greedy...
well, if you were to take production and convert it to hourly wage.. the minimum wage should be something like $22 an hour

however, this specific group of people is fascinated with chopping off their noses to spite their face
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:20 AM   #62
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Currently the full-time minimum wage for Adults in Australia is $16.37 per hour.
For the teens working in mcd it is less but any adult working there must be paid at least this.

Amazingly this min wage hasn't resulted in the collapse of the economy or society and somehow they even manage to afford to put a mcdonalds on every corner.

The minimum wage in the US for adults is a disgrace
What is the Cost of things over there?

Gas?
Housing?
Mc Double?
Gallon of Milk?
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:25 AM   #63
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Whats all this bitching? It's a private company. They can pay whatever rate they want to as long as it's not below minimum wage. There is no entitlements, no age issues, no collapsing of societies, no nothing. They can ask for more money or better quality paper hats until the cows come home without it becoming class warfare. or can they?
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If that happens, then a bunch of more qualified people will get those jobs and the same people striking will be complaining about not having a job..
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The greatest weakness of capitalism and free market economics is that both assume the best in the individual will shine through. That each person wants more. That each person can achieve more. That each person is going to wake up each day and strive for more. That each person is never going to stop trying to better themselves, never stop improving their skills, never stop increasing their value in the workplace and never stop moving up the ladder of prosperity.

The problem is that idea of opportunity and prosperity and the fair and level playing field that allows each person to reach their potential,... doesn't sell as well as "hey man, nothing is your fault, do nothing to strive for more just flip burgers and just demand more because you're entitled".
The best in the individual will ALWAYS shine through. If their best is working in a fast food restaurant for forty years, then so be it.

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Not for in & out, the amount of people that cycle through that place is crazy. Every one I have been in, was non stop Flow of people.. For people that have never been, it isn't like Mcdonalds, where you stand in line forever, wait for food forever, then sit down to a fast food meal like it was family dinner chat.. Oh wait.. ok

Lines move fast, food comes out fast for amount of people being served, people seem to clear tables fast since people are standing and eating waiting on a table...

I am sure it might not always be like this, as I do not have one local to me...
Ok so McDonalds has a shitty business model but are profitable because they under pay their workers? Gotcha
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:34 AM   #67
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The best in the individual will ALWAYS shine through. If their best is working in a fast food restaurant for forty years, then so be it.

Everyone has the ability to step up. Not everyone the desire.
Agreed. Equality of opportunity is always challenged by those who aren't so interested in bettering themselves, by demanding equality of outcome.
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Whats all this bitching? It's a private company. They can pay whatever rate they want to as long as it's not below minimum wage. There is no entitlements, no age issues, no collapsing of societies, no nothing. They can ask for more money or better quality paper hats until the cows come home without it becoming class warfare. or can they?
Well, unless things have changed, restaurants do not have to pay minimum wage as they give food in lieu of wages. But it has been a very long time since I worked there.
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Well, unless things have changed, restaurants do not have to pay minimum wage as they give food in lieu of wages. But it has been a very long time since I worked there.
to be fair this is when the barter system only existed
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What is the Cost of things over there?

Gas?
Housing?
Mc Double?
Gallon of Milk?
it is more expensive than what you pay in the US

not sure on gas, never use it. petrol is about 1.50 a litre tho
average house price in melbourne is about 450k sydney about 550k
large big mac meal is about $7 and some change
milk is about $3.50 for 3 litres

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...tralia/278313/

http://mattcowgill.wordpress.com/201...minimum-wages/

mcdonalds does cut costs by hiring teenagers however, a 16 year old minimum wage is aroung 8 an hour which increases till 20 years old where the standard adult rate of 16$ applies
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most of these fuckers can't assemble bun-burger-cheese-bun in an even vertical stack without major mistakes. that's assuming the one taking your order understood english and didn't screw up the pressing of the pictures for your one-item order on their cash register. $15 an hour? fuck them.
Ok, but I think that would change if they pay $15 per hour.
College grads will be trying to get some of that action.

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Not for in & out, the amount of people that cycle through that place is crazy. Every one I have been in, was non stop Flow of people.. For people that have never been, it isn't like Mcdonalds, where you stand in line forever, wait for food forever, then sit down to a fast food meal like it was family dinner chat.. Oh wait.. ok

Lines move fast, food comes out fast for amount of people being served, people seem to clear tables fast since people are standing and eating waiting on a table...

I am sure it might not always be like this, as I do not have one local to me...
They do food prep in house and other cost saving measures...and the 3 near me always seem to be busy to out of control busy. Always. Not like McDs at all.
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big macs can go up in price...they are bad for you anyway
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