I see same Seattle office where Streamate is since sextracker times.
Where is Manwin there? There is brazzers and pornhub whitelabels, but also whitelabels of sites not related to manwin, simply they list a few whitelabels, includes obviously manwin tube ones too.

Congratz....

Which have been listed there for a long time as I've had whitelabels with them for quite a while now, not something that was just posted new due to a buyout, only changes I've seen is FCI got reversed to ICF. :2 cents:

Poking fun of the fact that you will publish anything someone emails you ≠ Manwin ass kisser.

Edit: You say "Fabian ass kissing cocksuckers." I thought you said Fabian is out at Manwin?

I think you're just jealous that he can counter all of you're arguments.

...but I am also a fan of Mike South, I know some people hate him an that he can jump the gun occasionally, but I am glad he is around. :)

Bingo - I dont care if Manwin implodes tomorrow, Ive never made a dime from them - in fact they have cost me time and effort to DMCA many of my videos from their tubes BUT I call a spade a spade - and when an adult biz "Journalist" (wtf are you?) is flat out WRONG so often but NEVER posts a retraction...then its time to call bullshit.

I mentioned this earlier but where are any posts or links to any of your past retractions?

I am glad he is around, too. He does have some good stuff, but he is also obsessed with Manwin and his "reporting" there is little more than rumors people email him. Then, when he is wrong, he just moves on to the next thing he hears. If you call him out on how ridiculous he can sometimes be, he'll call you an ass kisser or apologist. The Manwin shit is getting old and that is the only thing people call him out on. I've seen him post a few things that I know to be 100% false, so it makes one doubt his other claims when it comes to them.

To his credit, he is usually spot on when it comes to anything model or producer related...outside of Manwin.

Manwin is definitely why he gets the most shit here. I've observed that 80'% of the people who give him crap are the same people who like to publicly defend Manwin. I think it's more that they don't want to hear anything bad about them and in many cases they have a business relationship with them which they want to strengthen. But it's the biggest company in adult and one most responsible for the state of the current industry. If he didn't report and focus on them to some extent he would be remiss.

If you don't like what he says about Manwin you can always not read the topics posted by mikesouth which include the word 'manwin' in the title. It's a very easy thing to do and probably takes a lot less time than always bitching all the time about him posting about the #1 company in adult. You could even put him on ignore and not read his blog. But I think for some people it's more about being a yes man or keeping others from seeing the information he is posting.

I've gathered that a lot of people here will suck the biggest dick in the industry, which Fabien is currently swinging. I'm not entirely sure why that is - like they think he'll do them favors for it or something.

I am unsure why others reply to Mike South posts, but in my case it is 100% for fun and not for business. Especially when he wrote completely wrong and funny things about Vassili K. which is the accountant of partners of mine (not Manwin), or other people/companies I know directly. I am sure there are others who reply his threads just for 100% pure fun, and no any business (or manwin ass-kissing) agenda.

You could include me in that group. I like Mike and I know he can dish it out as well as he can take it...

His fiendish little sycophant anon disenfranchised hater minions though... now those I do have an issue with...

Mike could always post photos of 17 year olds.
Or polls about who should get banned.
Or troll fellow users.
Or obsess about Chris Buttler.
Or drop some race bait.
Or make another post about Miley Cyrus.
Or blindside you with some gore photos.
Or a million other things that are irrelavant to the industry.

You could include me in that group. I like Mike and I know he can dish it out as well as he can take it...

His fiendish little sycophant anon disenfranchised hater minions though... now those I do have an issue with...

And so what if his blog looks like it was designed by a cat swatting at a moth on a keyboard?

Well, I wouldn't call myself a betting man, because I prefer a sure thing... which is why I would be more than happy to take this bet.

How much you putting up? Doesn't have to be cash but should be something substantial... just putting a retraction on your blog is not going to cut it. Also, you need to be clear about what you will or will not accept as firsthand and factual. Assumptions drawn from 2257 statements on white labels, theories about DMCAs, and other rabbit hole tin foil hat postulates won't cut it for me.

The bet is for "bought", no wiggle room on "offered" btw... I don't disagree with that part of the story.

Mike, I hope you know me well enough to know not to take the bet but if your pride swells and arrogance compels you anyway then I understand - even if I am critical of it as obtuse folly; however, that is why it has to be something worthy. The bet needs to be something that if you lose you end up paying a steep price to gain a lesson from it.

Add anon tipsters not acceptable either of course...

Ill bet you.

the bet is for OWNS Manwin Owns Streamate via ICF Technology They Own ICF technology and thus Streamate.

I should disclose though that I have inside info

like say maybe checks changed from FCI to ICF....

When they buy Playboy?

Mike, so, answer far-l, what if you lose the bet.

I will bet you too, obviously I have inside knowledge also but you are so full of yourself, you would still bet against me on this.

Nathan - to sidetrack slightly - can you check your skype please, thanks :)

"Inside info", "anonymous sources".

That is just a series of extrapolations based on unfounded assumptions which are precisely what I said would not be admissible as proof. I know you know the difference between hypothesis, theory, and fact.

I find it kind of telling that you aren't even putting up a bet but just relying on more innuendo and anonymity.

The sort of sophistry you are indulging in is only good for obfuscating the truth. But, then again, since you aren't concerned with truth, and feel your opinion is more valuable than facts, then I guess I shouldn't concern myself any further with trying to set you straight. Nothing wrong with letting you be the punchline to a joke everyone that knows better can laugh at.

The unfortunate thing is the more you place a higher value on your opinion the less integrity you have, especially when your conspiracy theories are debunked, and that means when you are actually "right" no one is going to take you seriously regardless.

I call it "Luke Ford Syndrome".

Must give Mike credit for letting lots of people reply his posts.

Who won the bet?

HAHAHA fucking fuck that was a good line. I will have to remember that. Cant stop laughing hahaha

yeah why did this thread die and Boneprone what is up with your lock bets man. I do not know you but took a chance on your so called lock bets and I think I won 6 of 7 and made enough to buy a new Vette cash.
I see you get trashed all the time and I don't even know your name but pass the lock bet info to me again.
6 of 7 or 7 of 8 I am not sure but I will let it ride :)

the jury is still out :winkwink:

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