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Grapesoda · 08-21-2013, 07:34 PM

http://www.thenewamerican.com/cultur...sex-attraction

Christie Signs Law Banning Minors From Therapy for Same-Sex Attraction

Republican New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (shown) quietly signed a bill into law August 19 making it illegal for licensed therapists in the state to help minors overcome homosexual attraction ? even with the approval of their parents. The bill, A3371, bans any qualified therapist, psychologist, social worker, or anyone ?who performs counseling as part of the person's professional training for any of these professions,? from counseling anyone under 18 years of age with the intent of helping that person change his or her sexual orientation. Therapies and treatments that are prohibited, according to the bill's language, include ?efforts to change behaviors, gender identity, or gender expressions, or to reduce or eliminate sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward a person of the same gender.?

Christie, who has promoted himself as socially conservative, explained that he signed the bill based on the recommendations of the American Psychological Association (APA), which insisted that its research shows such ?conversion? or ?reparative? therapy can lead teens struggling with homosexual feelings into ?depression, substance abuse, social withdrawal, decreased self-esteem, and suicidal thoughts.?

While claiming to have ?concerns about government limiting parental choice on the care and treatment of their own children,? Christie nonetheless said ?I believe that exposing children to these health risks without clear evidence of benefits that outweigh these serious risks is not appropriate. Based upon this analysis, I sign this bill into law.?

Troy Stevenson, executive director of the homosexual activist group Garden State Equality, applauded the new law that will encourage youth to embrace homosexuality. ?The best way to ensure our LGBT youth are protected from the abuse of being ostracized is to provide them with full equality,? Stevenson said in a statement. ?We must provide all NJ youth with acceptance, with hope for the future, and yes, the promise of the dignity to marry the person that they love.?

Christie is a practicing Catholic, but has said he disagrees with the Catholic Church's longtime scriptural teaching on the sinfulness of homosexuality. That conviction, along with centuries of tradition and proof of the destructive nature of the aberrant lifestyle, has inspired a majority of states to pass constitutional amendments defining marriage as only between a man and a woman. Last year, Christie vetoed a bill to legalize homosexual marriage in New Jersey, and was critical of the recent Supreme Court ruling against the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which banned the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages.

Democratic State Senator Raymond Lesniak, who sponsored the legislation banning the therapy, praised Christie for affirming ?what many opponents of marriage equality do not recognize, which is that gay people are not in need of treatment. That's certainly an important statement to make and he made that with his signing of the bill.? Lesniak added hopefully that legalizing homosexual marriage in New Jersey would be ?a natural next step.?

New Jersey is the second state to pass a law banning concerned and qualified adults from helping youth deal with unwanted same-sex attraction. In October 2012, California Governor Jerry Brown signed a law banning reparative therapy for minors in his state. In a statement Brown parroted the talking points of homosexual activists pushing the measure, arguing that such therapies ?have no basis in science or medicine and they will now be relegated to the dustbin of quackery.?

As it did with the California law, the conservative legal advocacy group Liberty Counsel condemned the New Jersey bill and said that it would pursue a challenge to see it overturned. The group's founder and chairman, Matt Staver, said that in signing the bill Christie was ?putting himself in every counseling room, dictating what kind of counseling clients can receive. This bill provides a slippery slope of government infringing upon the First Amendment [guarantees] of counselors to provide, and patients to receive, counseling consistent with their religious beliefs.?

Staver noted that the bill is so broad ?that parents would be prohibited from seeking help for their son who developed unwanted same-sex attractions after being molested by the likes of Jerry Sandusky. Counselors would only be allowed to affirm these unwanted feelings as good and normal. This is absurd and dangerous. This law would inflict serious damage to children, parents, and counselors.?

As for Christie's insistence that the new law was based on research from the APA, Liberty Counsel noted that the APA's 2009 Task Force Report, cited by the New Jersey bill's sponsors, ?specifically states that there is evidence of benefit of such counseling, and any such reports to the contrary were only anecdotal. The Report also states that there is no research ? none ? regarding the effects of change therapy involving minors.?

Brad Dacus of the Pacific Justice Institute, which has filed suit to overturn the California law, said that the laws in both states came about because of pressure from homosexual groups, and not because of scientific evidence. ?The question here isn't if sexuality comes from birth or not,? he noted. ?The question is should we allow the government to restrict religious and constitutional freedoms because a forceful LGBT lobby says we should? The answer to that question is a resounding 'No.'?

Addressing the attack against religious freedoms that are implicit in the bill, Denny Burke, a professor of biblical studies at Louisville, Kentucky's Boyce College, wrote on his blog site that the new law will mean that ?licensed service providers who also happen to be Christian will have to choose. They can either abandon Christian teaching or they can abandon their profession. The law now prohibits them from doing both. You just watch. Any counselor or therapist who tries to buck the system on this one will lose their credentials from the state. There will be no religious liberty exception.?

96ukssob · 08-21-2013, 08:01 PM

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?˙sʇɥƃnoɥʇ lɐpıɔıns puɐ 'ɯǝǝʇsǝ-ɟlǝs pǝsɐǝɹɔǝp 'lɐʍɐɹpɥʇıʍ lɐıɔos 'ǝsnqɐ ǝɔuɐʇsqns 'uoıssǝɹdǝp? oʇuı sƃuılǝǝɟ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ɥʇıʍ ƃuılƃƃnɹʇs suǝǝʇ pɐǝl uɐɔ ʎdɐɹǝɥʇ ?ǝʌıʇɐɹɐdǝɹ? ɹo ?uoısɹǝʌuoɔ? ɥɔns sʍoɥs ɥɔɹɐǝsǝɹ sʇı ʇɐɥʇ pǝʇsısuı ɥɔıɥʍ '(∀Ԁ∀) uoıʇɐıɔoss∀ lɐɔıƃoloɥɔʎsԀ uɐɔıɹǝɯ∀ ǝɥʇ ɟo suoıʇɐpuǝɯɯoɔǝɹ ǝɥʇ uo pǝsɐq llıq ǝɥʇ pǝuƃıs ǝɥ ʇɐɥʇ pǝuıɐldxǝ 'ǝʌıʇɐʌɹǝsuoɔ ʎllɐıɔos sɐ ɟlǝsɯıɥ pǝʇoɯoɹd sɐɥ oɥʍ 'ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ

?˙ɹǝpuǝƃ ǝɯɐs ǝɥʇ ɟo uosɹǝd ɐ pɹɐʍoʇ sƃuılǝǝɟ ɹo suoıʇɔɐɹʇʇɐ ɔıʇuɐɯoɹ ɹo lɐnxǝs ǝʇɐuıɯılǝ ɹo ǝɔnpǝɹ oʇ ɹo 'suoıssǝɹdxǝ ɹǝpuǝƃ ɹo 'ʎʇıʇuǝpı ɹǝpuǝƃ 'sɹoıʌɐɥǝq ǝƃuɐɥɔ oʇ sʇɹoɟɟǝ? ǝpnlɔuı 'ǝƃɐnƃuɐl s,llıq ǝɥʇ oʇ ƃuıpɹoɔɔɐ 'pǝʇıqıɥoɹd ǝɹɐ ʇɐɥʇ sʇuǝɯʇɐǝɹʇ puɐ sǝıdɐɹǝɥ┴ ˙uoıʇɐʇuǝıɹo lɐnxǝs ɹǝɥ ɹo sıɥ ǝƃuɐɥɔ uosɹǝd ʇɐɥʇ ƃuıdlǝɥ ɟo ʇuǝʇuı ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ ǝƃɐ ɟo sɹɐǝʎ 8Ɩ ɹǝpun ǝuoʎuɐ ƃuılǝsunoɔ ɯoɹɟ ?'suoıssǝɟoɹd ǝsǝɥʇ ɟo ʎuɐ ɹoɟ ƃuıuıɐɹʇ lɐuoıssǝɟoɹd s,uosɹǝd ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇɹɐd sɐ ƃuılǝsunoɔ sɯɹoɟɹǝd oɥʍ? ǝuoʎuɐ ɹo 'ɹǝʞɹoʍ lɐıɔos 'ʇsıƃoloɥɔʎsd 'ʇsıdɐɹǝɥʇ pǝıɟılɐnb ʎuɐ suɐq 'ƖㄥƐƐ∀ 'llıq ǝɥ┴ ˙sʇuǝɹɐd ɹıǝɥʇ ɟo lɐʌoɹddɐ ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ uǝʌǝ ? uoıʇɔɐɹʇʇɐ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ǝɯoɔɹǝʌo sɹouıɯ dlǝɥ oʇ ǝʇɐʇs ǝɥʇ uı sʇsıdɐɹǝɥʇ pǝsuǝɔıl ɹoɟ lɐƃǝllı ʇı ƃuıʞɐɯ 6Ɩ ʇsnƃn∀ ʍɐl oʇuı llıq ɐ pǝuƃıs ʎlʇǝınb (uʍoɥs) ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ sıɹɥƆ ɹouɹǝʌoפ ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN uɐɔılqndǝɹ

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?˙uoıʇdǝɔxǝ ʎʇɹǝqıl snoıƃılǝɹ ou ǝq llıʍ ǝɹǝɥ┴ ˙ǝʇɐʇs ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ slɐıʇuǝpǝɹɔ ɹıǝɥʇ ǝsol llıʍ ǝuo sıɥʇ uo ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ ʞɔnq oʇ sǝıɹʇ oɥʍ ʇsıdɐɹǝɥʇ ɹo ɹolǝsunoɔ ʎu∀ ˙ɥɔʇɐʍ ʇsnɾ no⅄ ˙ɥʇoq ƃuıop ɯoɹɟ ɯǝɥʇ sʇıqıɥoɹd ʍou ʍɐl ǝɥ┴ ˙uoıssǝɟoɹd ɹıǝɥʇ uopuɐqɐ uɐɔ ʎǝɥʇ ɹo ƃuıɥɔɐǝʇ uɐıʇsıɹɥƆ uopuɐqɐ ɹǝɥʇıǝ uɐɔ ʎǝɥ┴ ˙ǝsooɥɔ oʇ ǝʌɐɥ llıʍ uɐıʇsıɹɥƆ ǝq oʇ uǝddɐɥ oslɐ oɥʍ sɹǝpıʌoɹd ǝɔıʌɹǝs pǝsuǝɔıl? ʇɐɥʇ uɐǝɯ llıʍ ʍɐl ʍǝu ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ ǝʇıs ƃolq sıɥ uo ǝʇoɹʍ 'ǝƃǝlloƆ ǝɔʎoq s,ʎʞɔnʇuǝʞ 'ǝllıʌsıno˥ ʇɐ sǝıpnʇs lɐɔılqıq ɟo ɹossǝɟoɹd ɐ 'ǝʞɹnq ʎuuǝp 'llıq ǝɥʇ uı ʇıɔıldɯı ǝɹɐ ʇɐɥʇ sɯopǝǝɹɟ snoıƃılǝɹ ʇsuıɐƃɐ ʞɔɐʇʇɐ ǝɥʇ ƃuıssǝɹpp∀

?,˙oN, ƃuıpunosǝɹ ɐ sı uoıʇsǝnb ʇɐɥʇ oʇ ɹǝʍsuɐ ǝɥ┴ ¿plnoɥs ǝʍ sʎɐs ʎqqol ┴qפ˥ lnɟǝɔɹoɟ ɐ ǝsnɐɔǝq sɯopǝǝɹɟ lɐuoıʇnʇıʇsuoɔ puɐ snoıƃılǝɹ ʇɔıɹʇsǝɹ oʇ ʇuǝɯuɹǝʌoƃ ǝɥʇ ʍollɐ ǝʍ plnoɥs sı uoıʇsǝnb ǝɥ┴? ˙pǝʇou ǝɥ ?'ʇou ɹo ɥʇɹıq ɯoɹɟ sǝɯoɔ ʎʇılɐnxǝs ɟı ʇ,usı ǝɹǝɥ uoıʇsǝnb ǝɥ┴? ˙ǝɔuǝpıʌǝ ɔıɟıʇuǝıɔs ɟo ǝsnɐɔǝq ʇou puɐ 'sdnoɹƃ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ɯoɹɟ ǝɹnssǝɹd ɟo ǝsnɐɔǝq ʇnoqɐ ǝɯɐɔ sǝʇɐʇs ɥʇoq uı sʍɐl ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ pıɐs 'ʍɐl ɐıuɹoɟılɐƆ ǝɥʇ uɹnʇɹǝʌo oʇ ʇıns pǝlıɟ sɐɥ ɥɔıɥʍ 'ǝʇnʇıʇsuI ǝɔıʇsnſ ɔıɟıɔɐԀ ǝɥʇ ɟo snɔɐp pɐɹq

?˙sɹouıɯ ƃuıʌloʌuı ʎdɐɹǝɥʇ ǝƃuɐɥɔ ɟo sʇɔǝɟɟǝ ǝɥʇ ƃuıpɹɐƃǝɹ ? ǝuou ? ɥɔɹɐǝsǝɹ ou sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ sǝʇɐʇs oslɐ ʇɹodǝɹ ǝɥ┴ ˙lɐʇopɔǝuɐ ʎluo ǝɹǝʍ ʎɹɐɹʇuoɔ ǝɥʇ oʇ sʇɹodǝɹ ɥɔns ʎuɐ puɐ 'ƃuılǝsunoɔ ɥɔns ɟo ʇıɟǝuǝq ɟo ǝɔuǝpıʌǝ sı ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ sǝʇɐʇs ʎllɐɔıɟıɔǝds? 'sɹosuods s,llıq ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN ǝɥʇ ʎq pǝʇıɔ 'ʇɹodǝɹ ǝɔɹoℲ ʞsɐ┴ 600ᄅ s,∀Ԁ∀ ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ pǝʇou lǝsunoƆ ʎʇɹǝqı˥ '∀Ԁ∀ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ɥɔɹɐǝsǝɹ uo pǝsɐq sɐʍ ʍɐl ʍǝu ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ ǝɔuǝʇsısuı s,ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ ɹoɟ s∀

?˙sɹolǝsunoɔ puɐ 'sʇuǝɹɐd 'uǝɹplıɥɔ oʇ ǝƃɐɯɐp snoıɹǝs ʇɔılɟuı plnoʍ ʍɐl sıɥ┴ ˙snoɹǝƃuɐp puɐ pɹnsqɐ sı sıɥ┴ ˙lɐɯɹou puɐ pooƃ sɐ sƃuılǝǝɟ pǝʇuɐʍun ǝsǝɥʇ ɯɹıɟɟɐ oʇ pǝʍollɐ ǝq ʎluo plnoʍ sɹolǝsunoƆ ˙ʎʞsnpuɐS ʎɹɹǝſ ɟo sǝʞıl ǝɥʇ ʎq pǝʇsǝloɯ ƃuıǝq ɹǝʇɟɐ suoıʇɔɐɹʇʇɐ xǝs-ǝɯɐs pǝʇuɐʍun pǝdolǝʌǝp oɥʍ uos ɹıǝɥʇ ɹoɟ dlǝɥ ƃuıʞǝǝs ɯoɹɟ pǝʇıqıɥoɹd ǝq plnoʍ sʇuǝɹɐd ʇɐɥʇ? pɐoɹq os sı llıq ǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ pǝʇou ɹǝʌɐʇS

?˙sɟǝılǝq snoıƃılǝɹ ɹıǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ ʇuǝʇsısuoɔ ƃuılǝsunoɔ 'ǝʌıǝɔǝɹ oʇ sʇuǝıʇɐd puɐ 'ǝpıʌoɹd oʇ sɹolǝsunoɔ ɟo [sǝǝʇuɐɹɐnƃ] ʇuǝɯpuǝɯ∀ ʇsɹıℲ ǝɥʇ uodn ƃuıƃuıɹɟuı ʇuǝɯuɹǝʌoƃ ɟo ǝdols ʎɹǝddıls ɐ sǝpıʌoɹd llıq sıɥ┴ ˙ǝʌıǝɔǝɹ uɐɔ sʇuǝılɔ ƃuılǝsunoɔ ɟo puıʞ ʇɐɥʍ ƃuıʇɐʇɔıp 'ɯooɹ ƃuılǝsunoɔ ʎɹǝʌǝ uı ɟlǝsɯıɥ ƃuıʇʇnd? sɐʍ ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ llıq ǝɥʇ ƃuıuƃıs uı ʇɐɥʇ pıɐs 'ɹǝʌɐʇS ʇʇɐW 'uɐɯɹıɐɥɔ puɐ ɹǝpunoɟ s,dnoɹƃ ǝɥ┴ ˙pǝuɹnʇɹǝʌo ʇı ǝǝs oʇ ǝƃuǝllɐɥɔ ɐ ǝnsɹnd plnoʍ ʇı ʇɐɥʇ pıɐs puɐ llıq ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN ǝɥʇ pǝuɯǝpuoɔ lǝsunoƆ ʎʇɹǝqı˥ dnoɹƃ ʎɔɐɔoʌpɐ lɐƃǝl ǝʌıʇɐʌɹǝsuoɔ ǝɥʇ 'ʍɐl ɐıuɹoɟılɐƆ ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ pıp ʇı s∀

?˙ʎɹǝʞɔɐnb ɟo uıqʇsnp ǝɥʇ oʇ pǝʇɐƃǝlǝɹ ǝq ʍou llıʍ ʎǝɥʇ puɐ ǝuıɔıpǝɯ ɹo ǝɔuǝıɔs uı sısɐq ou ǝʌɐɥ? sǝıdɐɹǝɥʇ ɥɔns ʇɐɥʇ ƃuınƃɹɐ 'ǝɹnsɐǝɯ ǝɥʇ ƃuıɥsnd sʇsıʌıʇɔɐ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ɟo sʇuıod ƃuıʞlɐʇ ǝɥʇ pǝʇoɹɹɐd uʍoɹq ʇuǝɯǝʇɐʇs ɐ uI ˙ǝʇɐʇs sıɥ uı sɹouıɯ ɹoɟ ʎdɐɹǝɥʇ ǝʌıʇɐɹɐdǝɹ ƃuıuuɐq ʍɐl ɐ pǝuƃıs uʍoɹq ʎɹɹǝſ ɹouɹǝʌoפ ɐıuɹoɟılɐƆ 'ᄅƖ0ᄅ ɹǝqoʇɔO uI ˙uoıʇɔɐɹʇʇɐ xǝs-ǝɯɐs pǝʇuɐʍun ɥʇıʍ lɐǝp ɥʇnoʎ ƃuıdlǝɥ ɯoɹɟ sʇlnpɐ pǝıɟılɐnb puɐ pǝuɹǝɔuoɔ ƃuıuuɐq ʍɐl ɐ ssɐd oʇ ǝʇɐʇs puoɔǝs ǝɥʇ sı ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN

?˙dǝʇs ʇxǝu lɐɹnʇɐu ɐ? ǝq plnoʍ ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN uı ǝƃɐıɹɹɐɯ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ƃuızılɐƃǝl ʇɐɥʇ ʎllnɟǝdoɥ pǝppɐ ʞɐıusǝ˥ ?˙llıq ǝɥʇ ɟo ƃuıuƃıs sıɥ ɥʇıʍ ʇɐɥʇ ǝpɐɯ ǝɥ puɐ ǝʞɐɯ oʇ ʇuǝɯǝʇɐʇs ʇuɐʇɹodɯı uɐ ʎluıɐʇɹǝɔ s,ʇɐɥ┴ ˙ʇuǝɯʇɐǝɹʇ ɟo pǝǝu uı ʇou ǝɹɐ ǝldoǝd ʎɐƃ ʇɐɥʇ sı ɥɔıɥʍ 'ǝzıuƃoɔǝɹ ʇou op ʎʇılɐnbǝ ǝƃɐıɹɹɐɯ ɟo sʇuǝuoddo ʎuɐɯ ʇɐɥʍ? ƃuıɯɹıɟɟɐ ɹoɟ ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ pǝsıɐɹd 'ʎdɐɹǝɥʇ ǝɥʇ ƃuıuuɐq uoıʇɐlsıƃǝl ǝɥʇ pǝɹosuods oɥʍ 'ʞɐıusǝ˥ puoɯʎɐɹ ɹoʇɐuǝS ǝʇɐʇS ɔıʇɐɹɔoɯǝp

˙sǝƃɐıɹɹɐɯ xǝs-ǝɯɐs ƃuızıuƃoɔǝɹ ɯoɹɟ ʇuǝɯuɹǝʌoƃ lɐɹǝpǝɟ ǝɥʇ pǝuuɐq ɥɔıɥʍ 'ʇɔ∀ ǝƃɐıɹɹɐW ɟo ǝsuǝɟǝp lɐɹǝpǝɟ ǝɥʇ ʇsuıɐƃɐ ƃuılnɹ ʇɹnoƆ ǝɯǝɹdnS ʇuǝɔǝɹ ǝɥʇ ɟo lɐɔıʇıɹɔ sɐʍ puɐ 'ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN uı ǝƃɐıɹɹɐɯ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ǝzılɐƃǝl oʇ llıq ɐ pǝoʇǝʌ ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ 'ɹɐǝʎ ʇsɐ˥ ˙uɐɯoʍ ɐ puɐ uɐɯ ɐ uǝǝʍʇǝq ʎluo sɐ ǝƃɐıɹɹɐɯ ƃuıuıɟǝp sʇuǝɯpuǝɯɐ lɐuoıʇnʇıʇsuoɔ ssɐd oʇ sǝʇɐʇs ɟo ʎʇıɹoɾɐɯ ɐ pǝɹıdsuı sɐɥ 'ǝlʎʇsǝɟıl ʇuɐɹɹǝqɐ ǝɥʇ ɟo ǝɹnʇɐu ǝʌıʇɔnɹʇsǝp ǝɥʇ ɟo ɟooɹd puɐ uoıʇıpɐɹʇ ɟo sǝıɹnʇuǝɔ ɥʇıʍ ƃuolɐ 'uoıʇɔıʌuoɔ ʇɐɥ┴ ˙ʎʇılɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ɟo ssǝulnɟuıs ǝɥʇ uo ƃuıɥɔɐǝʇ lɐɹnʇdıɹɔs ǝɯıʇƃuol s,ɥɔɹnɥƆ ɔıloɥʇɐƆ ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ sǝǝɹƃɐsıp ǝɥ pıɐs sɐɥ ʇnq 'ɔıloɥʇɐƆ ƃuıɔıʇɔɐɹd ɐ sı ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ

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?˙ʍɐl oʇuı llıq sıɥʇ uƃıs I 'sısʎlɐuɐ sıɥʇ uodn pǝsɐq ˙ǝʇɐıɹdoɹddɐ ʇou sı sʞsıɹ snoıɹǝs ǝsǝɥʇ ɥƃıǝʍʇno ʇɐɥʇ sʇıɟǝuǝq ɟo ǝɔuǝpıʌǝ ɹɐǝlɔ ʇnoɥʇıʍ sʞsıɹ ɥʇlɐǝɥ ǝsǝɥʇ oʇ uǝɹplıɥɔ ƃuısodxǝ ʇɐɥʇ ǝʌǝılǝq I? pıɐs ssǝlǝɥʇǝuou ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ ?'uǝɹplıɥɔ uʍo ɹıǝɥʇ ɟo ʇuǝɯʇɐǝɹʇ puɐ ǝɹɐɔ ǝɥʇ uo ǝɔıoɥɔ lɐʇuǝɹɐd ƃuıʇıɯıl ʇuǝɯuɹǝʌoƃ ʇnoqɐ suɹǝɔuoɔ? ǝʌɐɥ oʇ ƃuıɯıɐlɔ ǝlıɥM

?˙sʇɥƃnoɥʇ lɐpıɔıns puɐ 'ɯǝǝʇsǝ-ɟlǝs pǝsɐǝɹɔǝp 'lɐʍɐɹpɥʇıʍ lɐıɔos 'ǝsnqɐ ǝɔuɐʇsqns 'uoıssǝɹdǝp? oʇuı sƃuılǝǝɟ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ɥʇıʍ ƃuılƃƃnɹʇs suǝǝʇ pɐǝl uɐɔ ʎdɐɹǝɥʇ ?ǝʌıʇɐɹɐdǝɹ? ɹo ?uoısɹǝʌuoɔ? ɥɔns sʍoɥs ɥɔɹɐǝsǝɹ sʇı ʇɐɥʇ pǝʇsısuı ɥɔıɥʍ '(∀Ԁ∀) uoıʇɐıɔoss∀ lɐɔıƃoloɥɔʎsԀ uɐɔıɹǝɯ∀ ǝɥʇ ɟo suoıʇɐpuǝɯɯoɔǝɹ ǝɥʇ uo pǝsɐq llıq ǝɥʇ pǝuƃıs ǝɥ ʇɐɥʇ pǝuıɐldxǝ 'ǝʌıʇɐʌɹǝsuoɔ ʎllɐıɔos sɐ ɟlǝsɯıɥ pǝʇoɯoɹd sɐɥ oɥʍ 'ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ

?˙ɹǝpuǝƃ ǝɯɐs ǝɥʇ ɟo uosɹǝd ɐ pɹɐʍoʇ sƃuılǝǝɟ ɹo suoıʇɔɐɹʇʇɐ ɔıʇuɐɯoɹ ɹo lɐnxǝs ǝʇɐuıɯılǝ ɹo ǝɔnpǝɹ oʇ ɹo 'suoıssǝɹdxǝ ɹǝpuǝƃ ɹo 'ʎʇıʇuǝpı ɹǝpuǝƃ 'sɹoıʌɐɥǝq ǝƃuɐɥɔ oʇ sʇɹoɟɟǝ? ǝpnlɔuı 'ǝƃɐnƃuɐl s,llıq ǝɥʇ oʇ ƃuıpɹoɔɔɐ 'pǝʇıqıɥoɹd ǝɹɐ ʇɐɥʇ sʇuǝɯʇɐǝɹʇ puɐ sǝıdɐɹǝɥ┴ ˙uoıʇɐʇuǝıɹo lɐnxǝs ɹǝɥ ɹo sıɥ ǝƃuɐɥɔ uosɹǝd ʇɐɥʇ ƃuıdlǝɥ ɟo ʇuǝʇuı ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ ǝƃɐ ɟo sɹɐǝʎ 8Ɩ ɹǝpun ǝuoʎuɐ ƃuılǝsunoɔ ɯoɹɟ ?'suoıssǝɟoɹd ǝsǝɥʇ ɟo ʎuɐ ɹoɟ ƃuıuıɐɹʇ lɐuoıssǝɟoɹd s,uosɹǝd ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇɹɐd sɐ ƃuılǝsunoɔ sɯɹoɟɹǝd oɥʍ? ǝuoʎuɐ ɹo 'ɹǝʞɹoʍ lɐıɔos 'ʇsıƃoloɥɔʎsd 'ʇsıdɐɹǝɥʇ pǝıɟılɐnb ʎuɐ suɐq 'ƖㄥƐƐ∀ 'llıq ǝɥ┴ ˙sʇuǝɹɐd ɹıǝɥʇ ɟo lɐʌoɹddɐ ǝɥʇ ɥʇıʍ uǝʌǝ ? uoıʇɔɐɹʇʇɐ lɐnxǝsoɯoɥ ǝɯoɔɹǝʌo sɹouıɯ dlǝɥ oʇ ǝʇɐʇs ǝɥʇ uı sʇsıdɐɹǝɥʇ pǝsuǝɔıl ɹoɟ lɐƃǝllı ʇı ƃuıʞɐɯ 6Ɩ ʇsnƃn∀ ʍɐl oʇuı llıq ɐ pǝuƃıs ʎlʇǝınb (uʍoɥs) ǝıʇsıɹɥƆ sıɹɥƆ ɹouɹǝʌoפ ʎǝsɹǝſ ʍǝN uɐɔılqndǝɹ

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that's pretty fucking cool

96ukssob · 08-21-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

that's pretty fucking cool

ive been keeping this one in the back pocket for a while and saw a great opportunity

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fun to make people made on facebook

ZeroHero · 08-21-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

ive been keeping this one in the back pocket for a while and saw a great opportunity

http://www.upsidedowntext.com/

fun to make people made on facebook

damn the link's not workin' man

Simon · 08-22-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeroHero

damn the link's not workin' man

Try this one...

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wehateporn · 08-22-2013, 07:06 AM

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DamianJ · 08-22-2013, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonSays

Try this one...

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That amused me!

08-21-2013, 07:34 PM	#1
Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	you guys see this? http://www.thenewamerican.com/cultur...sex-attraction Christie Signs Law Banning Minors From Therapy for Same-Sex Attraction Republican New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (shown) quietly signed a bill into law August 19 making it illegal for licensed therapists in the state to help minors overcome homosexual attraction ? even with the approval of their parents. The bill, A3371, bans any qualified therapist, psychologist, social worker, or anyone ?who performs counseling as part of the person's professional training for any of these professions,? from counseling anyone under 18 years of age with the intent of helping that person change his or her sexual orientation. Therapies and treatments that are prohibited, according to the bill's language, include ?efforts to change behaviors, gender identity, or gender expressions, or to reduce or eliminate sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward a person of the same gender.? Christie, who has promoted himself as socially conservative, explained that he signed the bill based on the recommendations of the American Psychological Association (APA), which insisted that its research shows such ?conversion? or ?reparative? therapy can lead teens struggling with homosexual feelings into ?depression, substance abuse, social withdrawal, decreased self-esteem, and suicidal thoughts.? While claiming to have ?concerns about government limiting parental choice on the care and treatment of their own children,? Christie nonetheless said ?I believe that exposing children to these health risks without clear evidence of benefits that outweigh these serious risks is not appropriate. Based upon this analysis, I sign this bill into law.? Troy Stevenson, executive director of the homosexual activist group Garden State Equality, applauded the new law that will encourage youth to embrace homosexuality. ?The best way to ensure our LGBT youth are protected from the abuse of being ostracized is to provide them with full equality,? Stevenson said in a statement. ?We must provide all NJ youth with acceptance, with hope for the future, and yes, the promise of the dignity to marry the person that they love.? Christie is a practicing Catholic, but has said he disagrees with the Catholic Church's longtime scriptural teaching on the sinfulness of homosexuality. That conviction, along with centuries of tradition and proof of the destructive nature of the aberrant lifestyle, has inspired a majority of states to pass constitutional amendments defining marriage as only between a man and a woman. Last year, Christie vetoed a bill to legalize homosexual marriage in New Jersey, and was critical of the recent Supreme Court ruling against the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which banned the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages. Democratic State Senator Raymond Lesniak, who sponsored the legislation banning the therapy, praised Christie for affirming ?what many opponents of marriage equality do not recognize, which is that gay people are not in need of treatment. That's certainly an important statement to make and he made that with his signing of the bill.? Lesniak added hopefully that legalizing homosexual marriage in New Jersey would be ?a natural next step.? New Jersey is the second state to pass a law banning concerned and qualified adults from helping youth deal with unwanted same-sex attraction. In October 2012, California Governor Jerry Brown signed a law banning reparative therapy for minors in his state. In a statement Brown parroted the talking points of homosexual activists pushing the measure, arguing that such therapies ?have no basis in science or medicine and they will now be relegated to the dustbin of quackery.? As it did with the California law, the conservative legal advocacy group Liberty Counsel condemned the New Jersey bill and said that it would pursue a challenge to see it overturned. The group's founder and chairman, Matt Staver, said that in signing the bill Christie was ?putting himself in every counseling room, dictating what kind of counseling clients can receive. This bill provides a slippery slope of government infringing upon the First Amendment [guarantees] of counselors to provide, and patients to receive, counseling consistent with their religious beliefs.? Staver noted that the bill is so broad ?that parents would be prohibited from seeking help for their son who developed unwanted same-sex attractions after being molested by the likes of Jerry Sandusky. Counselors would only be allowed to affirm these unwanted feelings as good and normal. This is absurd and dangerous. This law would inflict serious damage to children, parents, and counselors.? As for Christie's insistence that the new law was based on research from the APA, Liberty Counsel noted that the APA's 2009 Task Force Report, cited by the New Jersey bill's sponsors, ?specifically states that there is evidence of benefit of such counseling, and any such reports to the contrary were only anecdotal. The Report also states that there is no research ? none ? regarding the effects of change therapy involving minors.? Brad Dacus of the Pacific Justice Institute, which has filed suit to overturn the California law, said that the laws in both states came about because of pressure from homosexual groups, and not because of scientific evidence. ?The question here isn't if sexuality comes from birth or not,? he noted. ?The question is should we allow the government to restrict religious and constitutional freedoms because a forceful LGBT lobby says we should? The answer to that question is a resounding 'No.'? Addressing the attack against religious freedoms that are implicit in the bill, Denny Burke, a professor of biblical studies at Louisville, Kentucky's Boyce College, wrote on his blog site that the new law will mean that ?licensed service providers who also happen to be Christian will have to choose. They can either abandon Christian teaching or they can abandon their profession. The law now prohibits them from doing both. You just watch. Any counselor or therapist who tries to buck the system on this one will lose their credentials from the state. There will be no religious liberty exception.?

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