Streammate Doesn't Like Me Anymore - Who Wants My Cam Business?

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  • The Porn Nerd
    Living The Dream
    • Jun 2009
    • 19784

    #16
    Originally posted by Lichen
    Do you ever stop whining?
    When it comes to business and making more money? Nope.
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    • Just Alex
      Liv Benson to You, Bitch
      • Aug 2007
      • 6060

      #17
      60 sales is not enough?

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      • Love Sex
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2004
        • 1905

        #18
        whats the domain?

        Your sales do not equal the resources it takes to switch on there end, pretty simple to figure out.

        Streamate gets from me.
        Last edited by Love Sex; 08-19-2013, 03:49 PM.

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        • The Porn Nerd
          Living The Dream
          • Jun 2009
          • 19784

          #19
          Originally posted by Love Sex
          whats the domain?

          Your sales do not equal the resources it takes to switch on there end, pretty simple to figure out.

          Streamate gets from me.
          That's probably it and I do understand that - it just seems they were like 'ok fuck you bye!' because I needed to make a change. I'd still promote them but not after their attitude like I was bothering them. LOL

          And again, they setup a white label toot suite (or is it 'toot sweet'?) not long ago but now seem less accommodating. LOL

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          • BAKO
            https://traffichaus.com/
            • Jul 2005
            • 18478

            #20
            VS converts great for me. They also offer API. I don't think any cam company offers API
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            • VS_Jeff
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2012
              • 427

              #21
              Originally posted by Fat Panda
              switch it over to Video Secrets

              they've been converting and retaining for me for years


              Originally posted by BAKO
              VS converts great for me. They also offer API. I don't think any cam company offers API
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              • SwirlsGirl
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2006
                • 2067

                #22
                Originally posted by Love Sex
                whats the domain?

                Your sales do not equal the resources it takes to switch on there end, pretty simple to figure out.

                Streamate gets from me.
                Streamate gets from me as well

                Maybe we can work something out Peabody

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                • srockhard
                  Retired
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1976

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Tofu
                  Co-sign. Sam is good people.
                  thx tofu

                  Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                  I'd still promote them but not after their attitude like I was bothering them.
                  I still don't fully understand. SM wants you to change your domain name? Why? ...Why don't you just do what they are asking and then sell it to me? I'll even give you a domain if you'd like.
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                  • BareBacked
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3685

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CamBoss
                    1 m in Streamate. Just sayin
                    what does that mean?
                    NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

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                    • xNetworx
                      So Fucking What
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14445

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BareBacked
                      what does that mean?
                      He was spelling it with 2m's

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                      • The Porn Nerd
                        Living The Dream
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19784

                        #26
                        Originally posted by srockhard
                        thx tofu



                        I still don't fully understand. SM wants you to change your domain name? Why? ...Why don't you just do what they are asking and then sell it to me? I'll even give you a domain if you'd like.
                        No dude - I wanted to change the domain name, not Streammate. Streammte wants to de-commission the white label (turn it off) instead of just changing the domain name, like I wanted. And instead of giving me a NEW white label with the domain name I need they said promote us til you get to 60 Joins a month THEN you can have another white label even tho they didn't tell me that when I setup the first white label.

                        Understand?
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                        • Far-L
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                          • Feb 2002
                          • 6065

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                          No dude - I wanted to change the domain name, not Streammate. Streammte wants to de-commission the white label (turn it off) instead of just changing the domain name, like I wanted. And instead of giving me a NEW white label with the domain name I need they said promote us til you get to 60 Joins a month THEN you can have another white label even tho they didn't tell me that when I setup the first white label.

                          Understand?
                          I understand.

                          1. It is correct that you are not sending enough to make it worth their cost. They are incredibly numbers driven, which has pros and cons when it comes to service, but is critical when it comes to earnings. You are a business man and as such you should not hold this against them, imo, at least.

                          2. It appears that you think it should be an easy fix but since that is not the case it is no reason to lambaste them, refer to reason #1.

                          3. We do a lot more numbers than that on cams and consider doing a wl with them but know that the bar of entry is very high. We accept it and move to attain those merits not hold it against them for setting the bar so high. Think about what your 60 joins a month means compared to the close to 60 a minute that Manwin probably is sending. Compute the service expense to deal with that kind of business by way of ratio to what it costs to do special services for your account. Doing a lot less for greater return or doing a lot more for less return. Which would you pick?

                          4. We test cams frequently and push traffic accordingly. Streamrate and VS are consistently the best for us. To be walking away from what you have with them right now under your current label should be a very good reason, like you had to give up the domain over a mark dispute or something involuntary, imo.

                          5. Like every company out there, including the almighty Peabody, they are free to change terms of service on a whim without making even an announcement about it if they so choose since in most terms it is up to the client to maintain awareness of any changes.
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                          • The Porn Nerd
                            Living The Dream
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19784

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Far-L
                            I understand.

                            1. It is correct that you are not sending enough to make it worth their cost. They are incredibly numbers driven, which has pros and cons when it comes to service, but is critical when it comes to earnings. You are a business man and as such you should not hold this against them, imo, at least.

                            2. It appears that you think it should be an easy fix but since that is not the case it is no reason to lambaste them, refer to reason #1.

                            3. We do a lot more numbers than that on cams and consider doing a wl with them but know that the bar of entry is very high. We accept it and move to attain those merits not hold it against them for setting the bar so high. Think about what your 60 joins a month means compared to the close to 60 a minute that Manwin probably is sending. Compute the service expense to deal with that kind of business by way of ratio to what it costs to do special services for your account. Doing a lot less for greater return or doing a lot more for less return. Which would you pick?

                            4. We test cams frequently and push traffic accordingly. Streamrate and VS are consistently the best for us. To be walking away from what you have with them right now under your current label should be a very good reason, like you had to give up the domain over a mark dispute or something involuntary, imo.

                            5. Like every company out there, including the almighty Peabody, they are free to change terms of service on a whim without making even an announcement about it if they so choose since in most terms it is up to the client to maintain awareness of any changes.
                            3 responses:

                            1. There are little to zero 'associated costs' for my account as all I've ever done is put up a standard I-Frame and never contacted anyone except how to generate more revenue. They responded with some great ideas I was about to implement then I had to change the domain name (see #3 below). So the "cost" of doing this, in my case, is minimal. I do understand numbers and don't necessarily hold it against them, as in hold a grudge or think they're bad people. But, in the end, Streammate is not the only cam game in town.

                            2. With all this talk of "porn is dying!" going around you'd think companies would want to keep people who were sending consistent joins and interested in sending more instead of so easily blowing them off.

                            3. Your Reason #4 is the reason for the domain name change. It is not my choice. So this is costing me about $12,000 a year from Streammate but I'm hopeful some other cam program will net me that and more in the future. All good.
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                            • Far-L
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 6065

                              #29
                              Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                              3 responses:

                              1. There are little to zero 'associated costs' for my account as all I've ever done is put up a standard I-Frame and never contacted anyone except how to generate more revenue. They responded with some great ideas I was about to implement then I had to change the domain name (see #3 below). So the "cost" of doing this, in my case, is minimal. I do understand numbers and don't necessarily hold it against them, as in hold a grudge or think they're bad people. But, in the end, Streammate is not the only cam game in town.

                              2. With all this talk of "porn is dying!" going around you'd think companies would want to keep people who were sending consistent joins and interested in sending more instead of so easily blowing them off.

                              3. Your Reason #4 is the reason for the domain name change. It is not my choice. So this is costing me about $12,000 a year from Streammate but I'm hopeful some other cam program will net me that and more in the future. All good.
                              A response response...

                              1. That is all you have to do but does not quantify what they have to do on their side to set up and service a wl; still, you are right they may not be the only game in town but they are the best so it is a bummer you have to be in the situation.

                              2. Porn is not dying for Streamrate, in fact, I will wager it has never been better. Last visit I made to their offices I was blown away and they have only gotten bigger since then. (btw, last I heard they never sold to Manwin either. ) I actually believe there is a chance Boday is or will be the first adult biz billionaire and is just totally low key about it. They are highly sophisticated about operations, they would not say "forget 12k a year" without a very solid reason, like "a wl costs us (X) to set up then service so we need it to produce (y) to be profitably sustainable - earning at least (z) per month to make it worthwhile.

                              3. Sorry to hear that but if you violated a mark then you would get a big tsk tsk and a karma is a bitch from me but I hope that isn't the case. In any event, I wish you luck and urge you caution and hope you find a suitable replacement. I recommend VS. I know it is easier to do wl's with them now but back in the day we had the same issues - volume had to be there for them to budge and they were and are our pals and comrades in the Acacia fight. So in that respect nothing really has changed, just business as usual.
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                              • KeY
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 201

                                #30
                                you better try www.bongacash.com

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