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BareBacked 08-20-2013 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19765300)
I understand.

1. It is correct that you are not sending enough to make it worth their cost. They are incredibly numbers driven, which has pros and cons when it comes to service, but is critical when it comes to earnings. You are a business man and as such you should not hold this against them, imo, at least.

2. It appears that you think it should be an easy fix but since that is not the case it is no reason to lambaste them, refer to reason #1.

3. We do a lot more numbers than that on cams and consider doing a wl with them but know that the bar of entry is very high. We accept it and move to attain those merits not hold it against them for setting the bar so high. Think about what your 60 joins a month means compared to the close to 60 a minute that Manwin probably is sending. Compute the service expense to deal with that kind of business by way of ratio to what it costs to do special services for your account. Doing a lot less for greater return or doing a lot more for less return. Which would you pick?

4. We test cams frequently and push traffic accordingly. Streamrate and VS are consistently the best for us. To be walking away from what you have with them right now under your current label should be a very good reason, like you had to give up the domain over a mark dispute or something involuntary, imo.

5. Like every company out there, including the almighty Peabody, they are free to change terms of service on a whim without making even an announcement about it if they so choose since in most terms it is up to the client to maintain awareness of any changes.

Are you an attorney, politician or a teacher?

If not I think you missed your calling
:thumbsup

Mike Dutch 08-20-2013 10:09 AM
I am interested to buy it off you

Roald 08-20-2013 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 19765962)
I am interested to buy it off you
And we need to talk :upsidedow

esham 08-20-2013 10:51 AM
try chaturbate.com

The Porn Nerd 08-20-2013 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19765923)
Just for the record, most times when you tell someone to "bite your balls" it is one of two things... you are into S&M or you are using it in the derogatory sense. It would be easy to assume that you are bashing them a little in this case. As the kids say these days... "just saying". :winkwink:
Well, I guess you got me there man! I did bring up ball-biting. LOL But that was more of a 'ok fine whatever' kinda thing not a mean-spirited call to action.

Besides, my balls are so tiny I doubt anyone could even find them to nibble on. Just sayin'. :D

Sly 08-20-2013 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19765952)
Not sure if it means anything but Streamate was recently sold/changed/moved to a company called ICF technology Inc in Seattle, WA.
ICF Technology Inc.
2019 3rd Avenue, Seattle, WA 98121

206-374-0374


ICF does have Manwin ties and is likely manwin owned so not sure what they are up to.
They have had the new white label rule in place quite a while before that sale was finally closed.

Gator 08-20-2013 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19764906)
I can't understand streamate stats. I get around 200 uniques per day from google in one whitelabel (1 month so far), but the stats say all Zero in everything. Zero Zero Zero...
As far as I know they only count hits to the signup page.

adultmobile 08-20-2013 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19765952)
Not sure if it means anything but Streamate was recently sold/changed/moved to a company called ICF technology Inc in Seattle, WA.
ICF Technology Inc.
2019 3rd Avenue, Seattle, WA 98121
ICF does have Manwin ties and is likely manwin owned so not sure what they are up to.
Streamate old company: Accretive Technology Group Inc/Flying Crocodile (FCI), address: 2019 3rd Avenue, Seattle.

Perhaps you should have learned that when manwin buys something it is filed in a few places (ireland) and the whois ends up with certain same companies manwin really owns :)

TheSquealer 08-20-2013 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19765952)
Not sure if it means anything but Streamate was recently sold/changed/moved to a company called ICF technology Inc in Seattle, WA.
ICF Technology Inc.
2019 3rd Avenue, Seattle, WA 98121

206-374-0374


ICF does have Manwin ties and is likely manwin owned so not sure what they are up to.
1) Its old news that they have ownership stake in Streamate.com
2) The company name changes happened with every affiliate being notified and being required to take certain actions a couple months ago
3) You're a fucking moron

mikesouth 08-20-2013 04:26 PM
I know they own streamate I broke the story a year ago or more...but this change is VERY recent as in the last few weeks.

mikesouth 08-20-2013 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19766524)
1) Its old news that they have ownership stake in Streamate.com
2) The company name changes happened with every affiliate being notified and being required to take certain actions a couple months ago
3) You're a fucking moron
Thats what happens when ya drink on an empty fucking brain right there.

stick to what you know and understand....say maybe play dough...

adultmobile 08-20-2013 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19766556)
I know they own streamate I broke the story a year ago.
"They own streamate" it means 100% ownership. A change in company name (kept at same address) is just accounting technical; if shareholders to enter you let them enter in existing company, I guess.

Is true you broke the story. if I recall, the rumor was streamate asked $220 million to be paid in 5 years or so. But I seem to recall both parties (or at least Nathan, but you call him liar anyway) denied this was finalized; perhaps was just talks or not even this. And you sure Manwin got that much money extra to buy things? Manwin real owners may be the catholic teachers association or the republican senators pension fund, but I think they've invested enough in porn. If it was just a stake, this is not like how manwin operates, normally they buy 100%. Note that manwin owns webcams.com and Nathan replied in some other forum he accepts offers i.e. they more like sell their cam site than buy another.

mikesouth 08-20-2013 07:48 PM
I know theres a lot of different reasons to set up new companies and move shit around, specially when they are merging with redtube, in danger of defaulting to Playboy, losing money hand over fist on playboy properties, losing money on Digital Playground, cut Brazzers production in half, ditto RK quit producing for RealityCash (using cut up Brazzers content...and going back to what they do best...stealing content.

But every little piece of the puzzle fits somewhere to eventually reveal the bigger picture

TheSquealer 08-20-2013 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19766562)
stick to what you know and understand....say maybe play dough...
I'll stick to what I know which is reality, facts and making money. You stick to what you know which is making shit up, making libelous statements and obsessing on a psychotic crusade so you can get a fist full of page views to a shitty blog about others and what others do since you have no accomplishments of your own to talk about... and which is so repetitive and retarded about manwin that it reads like something that will come out during the trial for your mass murder attempt after you've taken it to your pea brains logical conclusion and walked into their office in full body armor and carrying 20 guns.

The Porn Nerd 08-20-2013 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19766807)
I'll stick to what I know which is reality, facts and making money. You stick to what you know which is making shit up, making libelous statements and obsessing on a psychotic crusade so you can get a fist full of page views to a shitty blog about others and what others do since you have no accomplishments of your own to talk about... and which is so repetitive and retarded about manwin that it reads like something that will come out during the trial for your mass murder attempt after you've taken it to your pea brains logical conclusion and walked into their office in full body armor and carrying 20 guns.
In a word: yowchapalooza!

xNetworx 08-20-2013 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19766807)
I'll stick to what I know which is reality, facts and making money. You stick to what you know which is making shit up, making libelous statements and obsessing on a psychotic crusade so you can get a fist full of page views to a shitty blog about others and what others do since you have no accomplishments of your own to talk about... and which is so repetitive and retarded about manwin that it reads like something that will come out during the trial for your mass murder attempt after you've taken it to your pea brains logical conclusion and walked into their office in full body armor and carrying 20 guns.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...012/12/lol.gif

ErectMedia 08-20-2013 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19766807)
I'll stick to what I know which is reality, facts and making money. You stick to what you know which is making shit up, making libelous statements and obsessing on a psychotic crusade so you can get a fist full of page views to a shitty blog about others and what others do since you have no accomplishments of your own to talk about... and which is so repetitive and retarded about manwin that it reads like something that will come out during the trial for your mass murder attempt after you've taken it to your pea brains logical conclusion and walked into their office in full body armor and carrying 20 guns.
Now tell us how you really feel :1orglaugh

itx 08-20-2013 09:29 PM
Mike South is like all the media obsessed with some topic for more rating.

Roald 08-21-2013 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19766807)
I'll stick to what I know which is reality, facts and making money. You stick to what you know which is making shit up, making libelous statements and obsessing on a psychotic crusade so you can get a fist full of page views to a shitty blog about others and what others do since you have no accomplishments of your own to talk about... and which is so repetitive and retarded about manwin that it reads like something that will come out during the trial for your mass murder attempt after you've taken it to your pea brains logical conclusion and walked into their office in full body armor and carrying 20 guns.
oh wow, thats deep lol

_Lush_ 08-21-2013 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19766556)
I know they own streamate I broke the story a year ago or more...but this change is VERY recent as in the last few weeks.
Mike you are wrong about SM

http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_d...?ubi=603276453

adultmobile 08-21-2013 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by _Lush_ (Post 19767088)
Running the "MikeSouth.rom" on MAME emulator, here the output: "Really Bode is a front man for the same real owners of Manwin who have put Nathan as frontman for the tube business".

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/147000/n...3a1c0f1302.gif

Markul 08-21-2013 08:12 AM
How the fuck did this turn into another Manwin debate lol

Magnetron 08-21-2013 08:15 AM
It's alright and good, Mike.

When one blows a fuze at someone else in the forum every other day, its called transference.

TheSquealer 08-21-2013 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 19767369)
It's alright and good, Mike.

When one blows a fuze at someone else in the forum every other day, its called transference.
What is it called when one publicly licks the tiny cock of another in order to curry favor with a loser and in the hope others will see him more positively?

Magnetron 08-21-2013 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19767502)
What is it called when one publicly licks the tiny cock of another in order to curry favor with a loser and in the hope others will see him more positively?
If South is such a loser, why would I want to curry favor with him?

Think before you post, Dipshit.

:)

TheSquealer 08-21-2013 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 19767521)
If South is such a loser, why would I want to curry favor with him?

Think before you post, Dipshit.

:)

Because you yourself are a loser and like all losers, you have no choice but to side with other losers because your options for friends and influence are quite limited.

Magnetron 08-21-2013 10:12 AM
I can't read what you are saying because I'm logged in now and you were already on my Ignore List.

Have a nice day, Dipshit.

:)

TheSquealer 08-21-2013 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 19767529)
I can't read what you are saying because I'm logged in now and you were already on my Ignore List.

Have a nice day, Dipshit.

:)
Good stuff.... the "i'm ignoring you" retreat.

.....the final refuge of dimwitted twats who are hopelessly out-matched.

mikesouth 08-21-2013 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by _Lush_ (Post 19767088)
Not sure why you say I am wrong or what it is I am wrong about. The transfer is a fairly recent one but if you start digging in things like dmca and 2257 you will find all the Manwin tiess you could ever want

Magnetron 08-21-2013 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19767526)
This message is hidden because TheSquealer is on your ignore list.
You keep right on trolling in the hopes of getting under my skin, Shitdipper.

:banana

The Porn Nerd 08-21-2013 12:09 PM
I'm just surprised no one from Streammate has popped their nose in here. LOL :(

sweetcuties 08-21-2013 12:30 PM
Last week I switched out all my links from them and went with someone else. I'd rather have less than 5 quality sponsors and my own programs verses having a lot of links where I may have future issues

Far-L 08-21-2013 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19766479)
Well, I guess you got me there man! I did bring up ball-biting. LOL But that was more of a 'ok fine whatever' kinda thing not a mean-spirited call to action.

Besides, my balls are so tiny I doubt anyone could even find them to nibble on. Just sayin'. :D
Hey, I forget you are East Coast... "bite my balls" there actually is used quite often affectionately, so my apologies. :thumbsup

xNetworx 08-21-2013 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19767709)
I'm just surprised no one from Streammate has popped their nose in here. LOL :(
Too busy making money :2 cents:
Streamate is awesome.

Sucks you don't have enough volume OP

TheSquealer 08-21-2013 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 19767669)
You keep right on trolling in the hopes of getting under my skin, Shitdipper.
I already got under your skin. You can't ignore me in spite of claiming you are. You're just a simple minded twit.

Far-L 08-21-2013 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 19767742)
Last week I switched out all my links from them and went with someone else. I'd rather have less than 5 quality sponsors and my own programs verses having a lot of links where I may have future issues
Streamrate is about as quality as you can get so while I agree with sticking with quality, I am not sure why you would make a decision like that - it strikes me as an emotional reaction, no offense, because you are changing based on something unspecified happening maybe in the future and for reasons that may or may not even impact you. That means to me that you made that choice based on a feeling and not something concrete, like numbers, or service issues, etc.

Just like I was saying to Peabody, it is often better to stick with something that you know works than to go into something that may or may not. Based on their longevity, service, conversions, etc. you won't find many people that disagree it is one of the best programs out there, bar none.

Remember, Peabody isn't changing because he wanted to. He changed because he felt he had to in order to set up a WL on his own terms, not because he was screwed over. In fact, by his own admission, he was at fault in the first place on the domain, and he can't help it if they don't want to do a WL with someone at his present volume. That is a no harm - no foul scenario.

TumblrPRO 08-21-2013 11:04 PM
How many uniques from google do you need daily to start converting a Streamate Whitelabel?..

freecartoonporn 08-22-2013 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19768510)
How many uniques from google do you need daily to start converting a Streamate Whitelabel?..
too many factors....

adultmobile 08-22-2013 06:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19767709)
I'm just surprised no one from Streammate has popped their nose in here. LOL :(
The same reason why myfreecams guys do not pop nose there.

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