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purecane 08-14-2013 06:03 AM

it's called penmanship
 
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crockett 08-14-2013 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 19758269)
Be 100% honest here.

Aside from someone's signature when was the last time you wrote something in cursive or read something that was written in cursive?

For me it was so long ago I can't remember when it was.

Also, learning cursive is not the same thing as learning a different language. It is learning a different way of writing the language that you already know.

I write both ways to be honest. The odd thing is I actually sign my name with a combination of cursive and script. I use a nice fancy cursive first letter followed up by script.

Best-In-BC 08-14-2013 06:12 AM

lol, the mere fact that anyone here think we need this style of writing is appalling, and again, if you cant teach your kids to sign there name, your failing as well .

Emil 08-14-2013 06:46 AM

Cursive writing is probably the most useless thing I learned in school.

RebelR 08-14-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 19758383)
Cursive writing is probably the most useless thing I learned in school.

I wouldn't be so sure. My writing is sort of a hybrid of printing and cursive but I still use it daily. I think cursive is a faster, more efficient type of writing rather than printing. But even if you choose not to write in cursive, what happens when someone hands you something written in cursive and you have to hand it back and say.. I can't read this? Thankfully, you will never have to do this because you learned it in school.

I'd say the answer is perhaps not to have as much emphasis on cursive handwriting, but it's still part of every day life.

pornguy 08-14-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19757824)
You don't have to have learned and practiced cursive handwriting to sign your own name. All one has to do is make a scribble that looks roughly like one's name and voila, signature.

True but not really the point.

My son started learning cursive in 1st grade.

Chris 08-14-2013 07:32 AM

My daughter wanted to learn it so she taught it to her self with one of those cheap workbooks

Trend 08-14-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 19758342)
decision has been made to cut out teaching of obsolete skills and it turns into some conspiracy, someone to blame, someone to bitch at? isn't it pretty damn obvious that if they cut out cursive writing, they will teach more of other skills like math or reading or whatever? Is that really such a bad idea?

That isn't how it works & I would contend that penmanship isn't an obsolete skill .. as evidenced by the fact that the very school who cut it is asking for it.

Worse .. they are not teaching more of the other skills. What they do is teach down to the lowest denominator. The truth is that now:

Regular Classes = Borderline special education

AP Classes = The former regular classes.

Tom_PM 08-14-2013 07:53 AM

Follow the money. School is not about educating, it's about having standard test scores high enough to continue funding. Sorry about that.

dyna mo 08-14-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19758252)
Can you sign your name in Russian much less read it? How about Chinese? Might as well be the same if the kids don't understand what the letters are they are writing, Much less how are they supposed to read other people's signatures or writing for that matter if it's in cursive.


To the Op, don't fear this is a nation wide thing. They have cut cursive out of most schools around the US. Just another fine example of tax dollars at work.

this had nothing to do with my post. the op complaint was the kids could not sign a document, in 4 years i would have at least taught them their names.

John-ACWM 08-14-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19758427)
My daughter wanted to learn it so she taught it to her self with one of those cheap workbooks

That is very good since some schools have such a poor system.

woj 08-14-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19758455)
That isn't how it works & I would contend that penmanship isn't an obsolete skill .. as evidenced by the fact that the very school who cut it is asking for it.

Worse .. they are not teaching more of the other skills. What they do is teach down to the lowest denominator. The truth is that now:

Regular Classes = Borderline special education

AP Classes = The former regular classes.

You might be right, but declining level of education has nothing to do with whether they teach cursive writing or not... Fact is they have budget constraints, constraints on how skilled and motivated teachers are, etc and they do the best they can with it...

it's not like someone just decided lets not teach cursive anymore so we can teach kids how to play video games instead...

Sly 08-14-2013 08:02 AM

Will it be funny or sad in 50 years when it takes a specialist to read an old document because nobody can read the old language of English cursive?

kane 08-14-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19758323)
The problem with this is not that they stopped doing it... the problem is that the fact that they stopped doing it and they weren't smart enough to say what they would replace it with. Instead they let it become a negative PR scandal instead of saying "instead of cursive, we are going to emphasize [more important life skill here]"

Humans do not respond well to "taking away" and "loss". It's a basic primal, feast or famine type instinctive reaction ingrained in our DNA.

That said, i think they should keep teaching the same things as always. Learning and education is not about what you can apply in life.. if that was the case, they'd be teaching, "bagging groceries" and "shovel handling 101" all through high school. There should be standards and the standards should be high. Not continually lowered.

They likely could have handled it better. Many schools around the country no longer teach cursive, but this is the one, for whatever reason, that we hear about.

Personally, I would rather they teach kids how to play music that write cursive. It still teaches motor skills, hand eye coordination, problem solving etc and it is show that music stimulates the brain. From grade 4-6 twice per week we had music class. I learned to play the recorder (which annoyed the hell out of my mom) and learned a few other basic notes on a few basic instruments and we were able to write our own compositions.

Like you say, people often don't respond well when things are "taken away." Many people say they want change, but really they don't want change. Many people have the attitude of "It was good enough for me" so it must be okay. When things change some people get scared and immediately assume it is for the worst.

2MuchMark 08-14-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19757806)
I was just baffled by this one.

Four years ago we were notified by the school system that they would no longer be teaching the kids cursive writing. I went to the school board meetings, PTA etc and voiced my concerns. They listened but blew me off.

Today my son and daughter come home and they have these "contracts" with the school covering everything from policies on bullying to dress codes etc. The instruction clearly say the child must SIGN their name. It actually says Do Not Print.

So neither of my kids know how to sign their names which was precisely my issue with the school's policy.

I called the school and asked... How are the kids supposed to sign their names when you are no longer teaching them cursive?

The answer: " Oh .. ummm... that's a good question"

Any chance you're from Texas?

Ace of Spades 08-14-2013 02:08 PM

People wonder why I don't want or have kids, this is a perfect example!


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