denial. 'denile is not a river in egypt'

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What? Low minimum wages COST the country money, keeps people dependent on government and keeps taxes higher? But but but but but..

When home depot starts selling groceries, baby clothes & video games, sports equipment.

Walmart puts tons of different businesses out of business.

Actually, Walmart doesn't have the power to put anyone out of business. It's the customers that all decide that they would rather shop at Walmart then at their competitors, that causes those other shops to go out of business. Obviously, for whatever reason, customers feel that Walmart provides them with a better value than the other stores.


Just pointing that out....



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so if one shop is using a government subsidy to put others out of business..

It's not corporate welfare at all. There are lots of jobs that are part time and minimum wage.

It's just like saying that families in the military live below the poverty level. When I was in the military I lived like a king; I got a paycheck and all of my major expenses were covered - housing, food, medical, even transportation and to a degree clothes. But if you are eighteen years old and have two kids and a wife, no, it's not going to be enough to live off of. If you are eighteen and married and have two kids chances are you'll be living in poverty no matter what.

I worked these crappy part time jobs too, making minimum wage. At one point I was working full time at a restaurant, part time at fast food and part time at Target on a push crew and (please don't laught) also a newspaper route.

The entire point of these crappy jobs are so that you get experience and eventually move up in the world.

it's corporate welfare.

what's the name of the family owned store? wanna see if i remember it.

Referring back to my other post above.... the government has been raising the income levels, and lowering the restrictions and qualifications on government assistance programs...

"So then by the logic in this thread, every company in the US that pays minimum wage is being supported by taxes because their employees qualify for government assistance. I hope that every person in this thread that rails against WalMart is also boycotting :

restaurants,
fast food places,
quick oil change places
income tax preparation services,
etc....


They all have employees that make minimum wage.

In fact these days if you make less then $17 per hour and you have a family then you qualify for some form of government assistance, so I guess the minimum wage needs to be $17 per hour, eh?


(of course when that happens then the government will simply raise the levels under which you qualify for some form of federal assistance again, and the cycle will go around and around.... After all we can't have people NOT relying on government assistance, that might make them self-reliant!)"


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So by your logic, then every restaurant, and fast food place, etc.... that pays minimum wage, is using government assistance to put other business out of business....



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50 obvious threads

my logic?

by your logic, according to a free market, that's exactly what should happen

what blows my mind, is you think this is YOUR argument.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup - Americans always love a good rapist. Wak-Mart, Congress et al.

How do you get that statement? By my logic, in a free market, I don't think that there should be a minimum wage at all..... but since there is one, and Walmart is complying with it, then what are they doing wrong? If you want everyone who is now getting government assistance to have a wage that doesn't qualify them for it, you need to raise that minimum to something about $17 per hour..... of course that will drive prices up, and then people will again demand more government assistance...

The whole "controversy" is a sham really. If people don't want to work there, then they don't have too. If people don't want to shop there then they don't have too. If Walmart wants to offer 10 cents per hour, and no one come to work for them, then that is their right also. If they want to only have people work for them who have PHDs, then this is also their right. The only thing that is being forced in this situation is that the government is forcing some people to give up their money in order to give it to other people. Mark my words, if the minimum wage was raised to $20 tomorrow, then the income level that was qualified for some type of government assistance would be raised to $60k per year next week.




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Give him a break, the Nile River didnt exist the first time he heard this expression.

i don't wanna interfere with your programming.

however, keep banging the libertarian party rhetoric, while you promote big business, no mimimum wage, working in finance.

Middle America is what pulls up low paid entry level workers not big business. And right now no one is hurting more than the middle class.

It's not corporate welfare at all; It's a part time job. If you aren't making enough money at your part time job to make ends meet, you look for a better job.

If this is corporate welfare then nearly half of the businesses we use are guilty of this. I am friendly with the chick who works as a cashier - she's a single mother and doesn't make enough money working full time to make ends meet. Should I not buy gas there because they don't pay their employees enough? Should she go work at another gas station where they will pay her the same amount?

You are wasting your breath with that bimbo. :2 cents:

ah, so you can't admit it's corporate welfare on the basis of how prevalent corporate welfare is?

odd.

the level of maturity i have come to expect from your generation.

thanks for not disappointing.

So the sandwich shop down the street who hires people part time for the lunch rush and pay crappy wages is engaged in corporate welfare?

I'm not saying I agree with the way Wal Mart operates, but if you give them the option to get out of spending billions on healthcare this is what happens. If I had it my way, ALL employers would be required to carry full time health benefits for ALL employees, including part time.

Pupos grocery.

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At least with Walmart that money is staying in the U.S. (I think Arkansas is still part of the U.S., isn't it? I always get confused about Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee)

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They have 2.2 million employees

walmart shoppers love meatspin

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I must live in "Walmart Country"

http://www.madspiders.com/images/walmart_map.jpg

Edited in: just for reference, I can generally drive east to west or north across that entire area in about a half hour. North or south, the same thing. So, I have 20 Walmarts available in a half hour drive from my house.

Don't know if that is good or bad.

Growth of Walmart in the US from 1961 through 2010.



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as a customer I don't give a fuck as long as shit that I buy is cheaper... fuck mom and pops shops, they all used to charge way too much for products... why is everyone in love with mom and pops stores ? does everyone love to bend over and pay more ?

The problem...

They come in and offer lower prices, then slow increase the prices after they've defeated the competition (which there isn't any because a roll of Bounty papertowels at warlmart will be like .99c where the mom and pop its $2). Then later the .99c deal becomes $1.79.

the issue is cheaper...means cheaper in every way.

garbage produced with who knows what from who knows where.

when i buy products especially stuff for my kids i like to know where it comes from and what is in it.

Aren't you tired of limited selection and buying cheap crap that comes from china? Thank walmart.

In this case the competition was defeated before WalMart got here. The Rainbow Market was the anchor of a small mall, and all of the other businesses went down with it - including our Taco Bell (fuck!).

I presume you have examples of that happening in real life.

Right now they are hiring people and then laying them off after 3 months.

120k here and we have 3

What you said plus also nice to know that children are not being chained inside factories or the paints are not radioactive...

The Walton heirs have a much wealth as 40% of the US population. 40%. That number may be low now.

There is an all out war against the middle and working classes and said classes are expected to pay for it.

No one ever has examples of it..... because when if it was to happen, then another competitor would come along and undercut THEIR prices. People always seem to forget that if one can do it, so can another.

...but hey, it SOUNDS like a good "evil corporation" scenario, so people love to run with it.




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I don't think anyone has more annoying comments on gfy than you. Congrats :thumbsup

walmart closes places like 'that sandwich shop down the street', and does so while posting huge profits and impoverishing everyone

the examples you are using are.. not accurate