Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19753958)

For what it's worth I'm launching a network of new paysites next month. Shot 50 scenes so far and am shooting 100 more over the next 2 months. Don't plan on having any affiliates because I don't really need them. I'll let you know how it goes.

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19753959)

What niche(s)? :)

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19753655)

Where did they go?

1) I don't care.

2) They quit, moved on, or were defeated.

People who find it too hard or can't grasp the new landscape leave. It's that simple. Sure, a lot of people are making less, but they are still making a lot of money. Most car companies are making less money too, as are many other industries and companies. The world changed, markets changed, economies changed and shifted, as did technology. It happens. But the money is still out there, it's just moving in different places now.

Money was EASY to make before. Too easy. Now it's not. Now that people actually have to think about what they are doing and work for it, most people can't hack it or figure out what is going on. However, tubes have without a doubt pushed most affiliates out, so on that front I feel ya, but tubes are not the end of business even if they cheapened some, but they are now the affiliates with insane amounts of traffic. Funny how that all worked out, but it is what it is.

Change is painful for those who are unable or unwilling to change. The same will happen in mainstream or wherever everyone goes. Change is unavoidable. So Bruce Lee said... be water.

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19753720)

This realization is hard to take for someone in his forties but it's something I've struggled with for almost 20 years now. LOL Think about how different the world was only ten years ago......so accepting this, especially as we age, is imperative to living a fulfilling life and not blaming others for the change all around us.

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19753955)

The updates page does show that she still adds new content, but other than that the site looks like it was designed 10 years ago. Today's surfer won't have any interest if they stumble on that site... Which they probably won't, as I can't find any evidence of her site being linked from just about anywhere on the internet. Given the lack of inlinks and no Alexa, I wouldn't be surprised if her "2/3 of ccbill members" was a drop from 30 to 10... which isn't enough volume to draw any conclusions at all.

This is just online marketing and monetization of traffic. If the user doesn't want to buy the product, he isn't going to.

Weren't we talking about content producers watermarking their products? How did I get sucked into this stupid thread :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Signupdammit has quickly become the biggest joke on the board. Why the fuck do you still post here?

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19754101)

I have worked with programs to watermark their content with my own url's and it works wonders. It is amazing how many surfers type them in. Then I thought about it. When I was a surfer I typed in the url to the site I bought from 99% of the time. So yeah, the 1% if the time I actually paid for something I did so via a type in.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19754139)

The way you got "sucked" into this stupid thread was because you couldn't resist jumping into it to personally insult me (you contributed nothing else other than that in your first message). Here's your first post in the thread again.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19752607&postcount=74

Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 19754120)

Forties are just about to end for me MPB, Change is constant and the business changes every day, all we can do is evaluate, adapt and move forward.

I am frequently harsh, crude, pretty much a right prick on the boards, especially when people blame everything they cannot adapt to for the failure of their business.

I am making more money than I ever have in this business, paysites work for ME, middlemen help me make money, and I am happy to pay them a % because I realize the service they provide.

Affiliates are my partners, I can only make money if they do, if they do not make money they send their traffic somewhere else.

If someone is not making money it is not "The Business that is failing" It is the business model of the person that is failing

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19754057)

Profitable ones that convert :)

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19753638)

If you want to believe that the industry and especially paysites are going strong then that is fine with me. Unlike some it isn't important to me that you believe the same thing I do. I think you are wrong but I'm not going to follow you around the board, stalk you like some ass, post cute little insulting pictures, call you names, engage in ridiculous debates about it and otherwise act like some 10 year old. It's your right to believe differently.

Originally Posted by geedub (Post 19754322)

If you don't want to engage in debate then why are you posting your opinions on a public forum? Tell them to your mom or someone else who can provide you some sympathy. There now I have slightly insulted you.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19754331)

It's not that I don't want to engage in a debate on occasion. It's more that some people here act as if they are in a cult.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19752192)

I can hardly find any content for sell now though.