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Old 08-03-2013, 04:19 AM   #1
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How Many Of You Whoremongers Believe In God?

I mean God, creator of the universe and everything in it not some nebulous concept of a force/power - I mean God, a thinking all knowing all seeing deity.
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No i believe in resurrection in another body
What makes you believe in that? How long after you die do you see this resurrection happening?
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No sir.

I find even the thought of it hilarious to be honest...
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What makes you believe in that? How long after you die do you see this resurrection happening?
Sorry never really thought how long before i come back
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edit: and no, i don't.

my proof: there are a few billion people on this planet who don't believe in god and still their life is not any different

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What makes you believe in that? How long after you die do you see this resurrection happening?
When the guy dies the fumes on the pyre will tell about his next destination ...
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I mean God, creator of the universe and everything in it not some nebulous concept of a force/power - I mean God, a thinking all knowing all seeing deity.
what concept of God are you refereeing too? a religious god? or a benevolent '?' that wish us well and is available for '?" ?
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I mean God, creator of the universe and everything in it not some nebulous concept of a force/power - I mean God, a thinking all knowing all seeing deity.
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edit: and no, i don't.

my proof: there are a few billion people on this planet who don't believe in god and still their life is not any different
depends... think of god in a quantum way... if you test for waves, light is a wave, if you test for particles, light is a particular. I accept god so god works in my life
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I don't know what I believe... I'd like to think that after we die we don't just cease to exist... I like to think there's an afterlife... Do I believe there's a guy in the sky on a cloud waiting for me and my family? I honestly don't know.
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depends... think of god in a quantum way... if you test for waves, light is a wave, if you test for particles, light is a particle.
And if you test for god, god is a fairytale made up to control the weak minded and comfort the slow of thinking.
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And if you test for god, god is a fairytale made up to control the weak minded and comfort the slow of thinking.
that's only your opinion and has no effect on my life but I'm sure it affects your life

I live in a gated estate in the hills, my bills are paid, have a savings account, my family is healthy and I have sex with a steady non stop stream of beautiful young women... sound like your life?
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depends... think of god in a quantum way... if you test for waves, light is a wave, if you test for particles, light is a particular. I accept god so god works in my life
Delta x times delta p is greater than or equal to h on 4 pi. What really boggles the mind that the act of observation changes how the particle behaves.

And, no, I don't believe in a god or gods. I am too old for magic sky fairies and invisible friends. Logical analysis of the issue falls on the side of atheism.
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Delta x times delta p is greater than or equal to h on 4 pi. What really boggles the mind that the act of observation changes how the particle behaves.

And, no, I don't believe in a god or gods. I am too old for magic sky fairies and invisible friends. Logical analysis of the issue falls on the side of atheism.
think in a quantum way and stop applying social constructs like religion
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Part of the problem of even discussing this topic is that the language of the discussion doesn't even make intellectual sense the way most people talk about it. The semantics of the way Mutt worded the question alone shows a huge bias in favor of religious belief built into the grammar. The way the question is usually worded exposes the lack of rigorous thinking about this subject by most people, especially Westerners who only believe in religion half-heartedly anyway.

There is no such thing as a generic idea of a "God" that many people- even atheists- commonly refer to in every day parlance. There are many specific religions with specific deities, only a few of which are mostly worshiped by much of the world population nowadays. So when you ask someone if they believe in "God", you should really ask which specific deity or mythology they believe in. Letting them say they believe in "God" as a generic supreme being is just a complete cop-out that doesn't really mean anything.

For example, even a supposedly monotheistic religion Christianity has a whole pantheon of multiple deities in it's mythology, not just one "God", most of them derived, borrowed and modified from earlier mythologies including Judiasm and ancient Egyptian, Babylonian and Sumerian mythologies.

The historical evidence is clear that the major religions of the world today are derived from earlier mythologies from the dawn of civilization that have been supplanted by these modern religions and then turned into looser, more generic concepts of religion that most secular Western people have some kind of lukewarm belief in.

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Buddhism knows no god - just saying
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Part of the problem of even discussing this topic is that the language of the discussion doesn't even make intellectual sense the way most people talk about it. The semantics of the way Mutt worded the question alone shows a huge bias in favor of religious belief built into the grammar. The way the question is usually worded exposes the lack of rigorous thinking about this subject by most people, especially Westerners who only believe in religion half-heartedly anyway.

There is no such thing as a generic idea of a "God" that many people- even atheists- commonly refer to in every day parlance. There are many specific religions with specific deities, only a few of which are mostly worshiped by much of the world population nowadays. So when you ask someone if they believe in "God", you should really ask which specific deity or mythology they believe in. Letting them say they believe in "God" as a generic supreme being is just a complete cop-out that doesn't really mean anything.

For example, even a supposedly monotheistic religion Christianity has a whole pantheon of multiple deities in it's mythology, not just one "God", most of them derived, borrowed and modified from earlier mythologies including Judiasm and ancient Egyptian, Babylonian and Sumerian mythologies.

The historical evidence is clear that the major religions of the world today are derived from earlier mythologies from the dawn of civilization that have been supplanted by these modern religions and then turned into looser, more generic concepts of religion that most secular Western people have some kind of lukewarm belief in.
good post, what I see in common with all religious is rules... i.e. a dominate interest in quantifying and controlling god ... my theory is it takes one to know one... so I'll not try and apply rules other than if I reach out something reaches back
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Buddhism is a religion indigenous to the Indian subcontinent that encompasses a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, who is commonly known as the Buddha, meaning "the awakened one". The Buddha lived and taught in the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent sometime between the 6th and 4th centuries BCE.[1] He is recognized by Buddhists as an awakened or enlightened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beings end their suffering (dukkha) through the elimination of ignorance (avidyā) by way of understanding and the seeing of dependent origination (pratītyasamutpāda) and the elimination of craving (taṇhā), and thus the attainment of the cessation of all suffering, known as the sublime state of nirvāņa.[2]

that's scientology bro... just sayin' you know?
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I dont buy into the sky god concept. Closest thing to describing God in my book is mother nature.
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Buddhism is a religion indigenous to the Indian subcontinent that encompasses a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, who is commonly known as the Buddha, meaning "the awakened one". The Buddha lived and taught in the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent sometime between the 6th and 4th centuries BCE.[1] He is recognized by Buddhists as an awakened or enlightened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beings end their suffering (dukkha) through the elimination of ignorance (avidyā) by way of understanding and the seeing of dependent origination (pratītyasamutpāda) and the elimination of craving (taṇhā), and thus the attainment of the cessation of all suffering, known as the sublime state of nirvāņa.[2]

that's scientology bro... just sayin' you know?
Buddhism is more like spiritualism. There is no deity. It's the closest thing to atheism.
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mary magdalene was a whore, seems reasonable whoremongers would believe.
more than likely jc's wife
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Buddhism is more like spiritualism. There is no deity. It's the closest thing to atheism.
interesting thought... and the point of kindness without fear of 'retribution?
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interesting thought... and the point of kindness without fear of 'retribution?
Buddhism thinks positive - more kindness = better next life

religions work with fear

why should i believe in something that tries to scare me to keep me in line?
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think in a quantum way and stop applying social constructs like religion
Why worship the quanta? I don't deify physics, although Einstein did at times. Only a limited understanding of the universe necessitates a creator or deity.
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God and religion are only used to control people.

Good people don't need incentives and consequences to be good or guide them.

I don't believe in God. But, IMHO, religion is necessary as there are many people that would not be good if not for the guidelines that lead to immortal bliss/damnation.

The smartest people simply ask for proof and disbelieve until some evidence is provided.
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why should i believe in something that tries to scare me to keep me in line?
okay so there is an after life or reincarnation... the coming of Judaism changed the world thoughts on that... Judaism is the religion that proposed a god that cares personally about each individual ... making the common man as important at the king who in past times was the only individual worthy of notice other than the occasional heretic act or individual...

are you afraid of having a terrible car accident? does it make you drive more cautiously? same thing.... btw Judaism was also the first religion to try personal behavior to gad I believe although monotheism might actually be an Egyptian concept first put forth by king tuts daddy ...

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God and religion are only used to control people.

Good people don't need incentives and consequences to be good or guide them.

I don't believe in God. But, IMHO, religion is necessary as there are many people that would not be good if not for the guidelines that lead to immortal bliss/damnation.

The smartest people simply ask for proof and disbelieve until some evidence is provided.
the first line in your post is where you went off the rail... there is no connection between good and religion ... once you realize that and accept that... things start working out for you
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Why worship the quanta? I don't deify physics, although Einstein did at times. Only a limited understanding of the universe necessitates a creator or deity.
who said anything about worship... you worship electricity?
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who said anything about worship... you worship electricity?
Nope, which is why I don't think of god in quantum terms, which was my point.
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okay so there is an after life or reincarnation... the coming of Judaism changed the world thoughts on that... Judaism is the religion that proposed a god that cares personally about each individual ... making the common man as important at the king who in past times was the only individual worthy of notice other than the occasional heretic act or individual...

are you afraid of having a terrible car accident? does it make you drive more cautiously? same thing.... btw Judaism was also the first religion to try personal behavior to gad I believe although monotheism might actually be an Egyptian concept first put forth by king tuts daddy ...
i drive carefully because i understand physics to a certain extent

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Nope, which is why I don't think of god in quantum terms, which was my point.
quantum terms as in you gain what you seek and more will be understood later
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i drive carefully because i understand physics to a certain extent

and i recommend reading this book: http://raymondkhoury.com/books/the-last-templar/
have considered that a few times... here read this if you can:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Gifts-Jews...ft+of+the+jews

and

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1....The_Mythmaker

and I believe because i understand to a certain extent
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quantum terms as in you gain what you seek and more will be understood later
I don't personally believe that desire affects quantum phenomenon or the collapse of probability wave functions.
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