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seeandsee · 08-03-2013, 05:40 AM

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signupdamnit · 08-03-2013, 06:35 AM

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candyflip · 08-03-2013, 11:13 AM

Dieter is busy with a nice fat cock in his ass.

ReggieDurango · 08-03-2013, 12:49 PM

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Funny how Nathan is so quick to respond to any number of Mike's threads.. but never shows his face in threads like these.

Obviously, Nathan is a busy guy, but it would be very very interesting to see what he has to say about this thread. Nathan?

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 01:03 PM

Sure...

We have a licensing deal with a major japanese adult company, and we will be handling all their english speaking targeted websites. Erito.com is going to be the main site. TokyoDollars.com is the affiliate program.

Both are not launched, which is why they were taken fully off the public web when we noticed that they were publicly accessible.

The sites are in design and alpha testing phase, without any content being ready, so the designer used placeholder thumbnails and content. He should not have, especially on a site that is publicly open. I apologize for that, it was clearly not done on purpose, as people have said billing did not work or was even setup yet, it is simply design phase testing.

Otaku, sorry, it was not our intention to cause any issue. Our designer simply likes your content.

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 01:06 PM

I was informed on xbiz that some people are still getting the site, I doubt its a caching issue, maybe its not blocked on one of our servers by mistake, but I would appreciate getting to things from whoever still gets the site:

IP they get for www.erito.com
IP they have while checking

Thx.

Captain Kawaii · 08-03-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

damn guys, you asians are straight like the gay ones, no mercy!

Mercy is for beeyotches and pirates. Not for samurai!

I have forwarded the info on to my Japanese contacts as well.

Its too bad Manwin did not have the cash to buy the real domain name. Its only $28k.

Captain Kawaii · 08-03-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Sure...

We have a licensing deal with a major japanese adult company, and we will be handling all their english speaking targeted websites. Erito.com is going to be the main site. TokyoDollars.com is the affiliate program.

Both are not launched, which is why they were taken fully off the public web when we noticed that they were publicly accessible.

The sites are in design and alpha testing phase, without any content being ready, so the designer used placeholder thumbnails and content. He should not have, especially on a site that is publicly open. I apologize for that, it was clearly not done on purpose, as people have said billing did not work or was even setup yet, it is simply design phase testing.

Otaku, sorry, it was not our intention to cause any issue. Our designer simply likes your content.

If you have a real agreement, one the other party/ies know/s about, why not get images from them? Its a really easy task when you are working with Japanese on the level.

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 01:22 PM

Really? You think?

I get this is hard to believe, but I did not design the site, I do not sit next to all 200 designers we have, and I do not control every change on every website that goes up.

There is procedures for everything we do, but they get stumbled and broken now and then, and when they do, we correct it as soon as we are made aware, as happened here, on a weekend on top of it.

I apologized for the mistake. It was a DESIGN alpha and it was being design tested only, the content is placeholders and thats it.

Once the site launches, it will have the correct content on it. I am not sure what content was on it, I did not see the site myself, so I can not comment if some of it was our own/licensed or not.

RubyGoodnight · 08-03-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

I was informed on xbiz that some people are still getting the site, I doubt its a caching issue, maybe its not blocked on one of our servers by mistake, but I would appreciate getting to things from whoever still gets the site:

IP they get for www.erito.com
IP they have while checking

Thx.

Still up for me. IP address for the site is 208.99.90.244

I can't get into the signup, but http://www.erito.com/home/ is still 'live'.

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 01:41 PM

Thx, I told them to really block it, not just half assed.. Will see if that helps...

L-Pink · 08-03-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Sure...

We have a licensing deal with a major japanese adult company, and we will be handling all their english speaking targeted websites. Erito.com is going to be the main site. TokyoDollars.com is the affiliate program.

Both are not launched, which is why they were taken fully off the public web when we noticed that they were publicly accessible.

The sites are in design and alpha testing phase, without any content being ready, so the designer used placeholder thumbnails and content. He should not have, especially on a site that is publicly open. I apologize for that, it was clearly not done on purpose, as people have said billing did not work or was even setup yet, it is simply design phase testing.

Otaku, sorry, it was not our intention to cause any issue. Our designer simply likes your content.

Translated; our lying thieving asses got caught once again.

.

L-Pink · 08-03-2013, 01:56 PM

If you were muslim your thieving torso wouldn't have an appendage left to hack off.

otaku · 08-03-2013, 01:59 PM

I can view the site again and it no longer goes to 403. Please ask your designer to remove my content from your web server, placeholder or otherwise, and not simply apply a block that may or may not work. Surely he can find something else amongst your own library to use as placeholders.

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 02:40 PM

Otaku, I agree, considering I doubt our designer knows what's your content, and it bring the weekend, blocking the whole site is safer which is what we are (or should be) doing.

2MuchMark · 08-03-2013, 02:42 PM

Interesting way of removing stolen content : Post it on GFY!

Nice stuff.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-03-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Otaku, I agree, considering I doubt our designer knows what's your content, and it bring the weekend, blocking the whole site is safer which is what we are (or should be) doing.

Perhaps if Manwin as a corporation had a Code of Ethics...

But then again, look at the figurehead at the top (arrested and jailed for tax evasion, and still under investigation), so what kind of ethics do you think would flow down to workers below.

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Captain Kawaii · 08-03-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

gravure babes are so hot!

How can you see them with all that cock in your mouth?

Captain Kawaii · 08-03-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Otaku, I agree, considering I doubt our designer knows what's your content, and it bring the weekend, blocking the whole site is safer which is what we are (or should be) doing.

It would make sense except its a real pain for designers to replace graphics with new graphics on things like banners and slide shows. It would not make sense to do the job unless you had the correct images. if your content is coming from someone who does not provide huge, un-watermarked images you are using stolen content or their content is illegal.

I know some producers in Japan, living in the US who supply a couple of websites in the US and NL with nothing but illegal or otherwise stolen content. Good luck with your project.

SplatterMaster · 08-03-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

There is procedures for everything we do

Perhaps you should add a procedure to supply your designers content instead of having them search for their own? I'm sure with the massive amount of content you have you could create a depository with enough different content to satisfy all designers needs.

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 10:13 PM

CK, we have a direct j/v deal with one of the biggest adult companies in Japan. But thx for the tip.

SM, we actually have that. But shocking enough, people break the rules. I know, hard to believe... I am definitely not happy with what happened here, but we fixed the problem as fast as we could...

Captain Kawaii · 08-03-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

CK, we have a direct j/v deal with one of the biggest adult companies in Japan. But thx for the tip.

SM, we actually have that. But shocking enough, people break the rules. I know, hard to believe... I am definitely not happy with what happened here, but we fixed the problem as fast as we could...

Lemme guess, DTI?

Nathan · 08-03-2013, 11:14 PM

CK, no. Dti has their own affiliate program, why would we partner with them?!

RycEric · 08-03-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

I know some producers in Japan, living in the US who supply a couple of websites in the US and NL with nothing but illegal or otherwise stolen content. Good luck with your project.

There are a lot of those "producers" in Tokyo. Are any one of these people Allen Ma or Roger Kurobe by chance? The only thing they seem to produce are forged documents from what I have seen. We got out long ago.. didn't know who was who after awhile, it was so bad. Some pretty big players here stateside as well, same game too.

Captain Kawaii · 08-04-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

CK, no. Dti has their own affiliate program, why would we partner with them?!

I was looking at the text promoting camshows on your tour. Is that part true? I'll have to check the screenshots I guess. Something about tons of webcam shows. I mentioned DTI cause they are the only real player I know of in the webcam biz in jp. On a real level that is.

Seth Manson · 08-04-2013, 12:40 AM

All I ever hear is negative stuff about this manwich guy

Nathan · 08-04-2013, 12:41 AM

Just wait until it actually is released...

Captain Kawaii · 08-04-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

There are a lot of those "producers" in Tokyo. Are any one of these people Allen Ma or Roger Kurobe by chance? The only thing they seem to produce are forged documents from what I have seen. We got out long ago.. didn't know who was who after awhile, it was so bad. Some pretty big players here stateside as well, same game too.

Naw, these are Japanese or Korean-Japanese and one American guy. They actually tell people here that a model showing her ID to a producer in Japan is against the Japanese constitution. But they have the 2257 covered.

I am out of trying to help people connect for content unless I shoot it. Its not worth dealing with scum or the hassles.

For the DVD stuff we work with Taiwan where the dvds are made. Those guys and the people they connect to in Japan and here, i.e. DTI are the only legit people I know of.

otaku · 08-04-2013, 12:44 AM

Japan: The Final Frontier

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Captain Kawaii · 08-04-2013, 12:48 AM

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Japan: The Final Frontier

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Hai, please please. I need a good chuckle.

Pineapplez · 08-04-2013, 02:34 AM

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-04-2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by otaku

Japan: The Final Frontier

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Hai, please please. I need a good chuckle.

I'm sure Fabian will blend right in...

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Phoenix · 08-04-2013, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Really? You think?

I get this is hard to believe, but I did not design the site, I do not sit next to all 200 designers we have, and I do not control every change on every website that goes up.

There is procedures for everything we do, but they get stumbled and broken now and then, and when they do, we correct it as soon as we are made aware, as happened here, on a weekend on top of it.

I apologized for the mistake. It was a DESIGN alpha and it was being design tested only, the content is placeholders and thats it.

Once the site launches, it will have the correct content on it. I am not sure what content was on it, I did not see the site myself, so I can not comment if some of it was our own/licensed or not.

let me get this straight...because...i have some experience with top adult companies.

you have 200 designers...yet you have no content of your own to let them work with?

is that your official statement?

waiting for your response where you say something to try and insult me...

Nathan · 08-04-2013, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

let me get this straight...because...i have some experience with top adult companies.

you have 200 designers...yet you have no content of your own to let them work with?

is that your official statement?

waiting for your response where you say something to try and insult me...

Hi,

no, I actually said we have content they should be using (I said that a couple of posts after the one you quoted). But sadly, people break the rules. And then shit like this happens.

Drives me insane, but it does happen. Sadly. When it does, I get upset, I post on GFY, I apologize and what else do you expect me to do?

otaku · 08-04-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

CK, no. Dti has their own affiliate program, why would we partner with them?!

The partner must be DMM (Japan's 800 lb. AV gorilla). They don't have an English affiliate program, tried doing an English version site before giving up within about a year, and started sending out DMCA letters thru Degban about a year ago.

L-Pink · 08-04-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Hi,

no, I actually said we have content they should be using (I said that a couple of posts after the one you quoted). But sadly, people break the rules. And then shit like this happens.

Drives me insane, but it does happen. Sadly. When it does, I get upset, I post on GFY, I apologize and what else do you expect me to do?

Sure ??..

Due · 08-04-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Sure ??..

I'm not trying to defend manwin on this one but I do see it as something that could happen.

last week I saw one of my designers ripped a design from someone else, I had him fired on the spot which he was. he was sent home with his final paycheck less than an hour later.

I had another designer a few months ago saying that in school they where actually teaching him to surf the web and take what they like when they see it. that was a government credited California based design school.

Mutt · 08-04-2013, 08:24 AM

dunno how anybody can make money in JAV - the videos are everywhere for free, torrents and tubes, then there's the countless programs that have thousands of unlicensed JAV DVD's. worse situation than US porn companies have.

isn't DMM just a retailer? they don't produce content as far as I know of.

So if this new program is for the English market does that mean this company is turning over the original content without the mosaic blocking the genitals?

I've never understood that part of the JAV industry, it's illegal to show genitals in Japan but there's a huge market for JAV in the rest of the world - why don't they have deals with distributors in other countries to sell the uncensored versions? It wouldn't be them selling the uncensored versions so they wouldn't be breaking Japanese law.

otaku · 08-04-2013, 09:01 AM

DMM is a huge conglomerate that besides distribution includes many of the major studios that produce AV, basically all the stuff you mentioned that gets pirated. It's also rumored they are related to the big video rental chain Tsutaya, Japan's equivalent to Blockbusters except that they're not bankrupt.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokuto_Corporation

They won't sell uncensored versions of their titles because it would just be a matter of time before they ended up on the interwebs, and Japanese customers would wonder why should they buy a censored DVD when they can find the uncensored version online.

DMM and other Japanese producers have basically had their head in the sand regarding piracy of their content overseas, since they are only focused on the domestic market -- a kind of AV Galapagos syndrome. Language barrier doesn't help. If DMM or SOD (DMM's next biggest rival) were to partner with Manwin, maybe Manwin could educate them on the ills of rampant piracy overseas, so that they would take it more seriously.

Nathan · 08-04-2013, 12:46 PM

Re censorship the Japanese law does not say that uncensored porn is illegal in Japan, it says that content produced in Japan has to be censored, regardless where viewed!

MaDalton · 08-04-2013, 12:51 PM

i will be selling uncensored japanese content soon - just saying

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-04-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Re censorship the Japanese law does not say that uncensored porn is illegal in Japan, it says that content produced in Japan has to be censored, regardless where viewed!

So the company that you are licensing products from is producing uncensored porn in Japan, which you acknowledge is illegal...no wonder you and Manwin constantly find yourself in trouble and on the wrong side of the law.

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Nathan · 08-04-2013, 01:04 PM

Uhm, no? It is censored Japanese porn, real jav. Who said our sites are all uncensored? Only content not shot originally in Japan will be uncensored.

L-Pink · 08-04-2013, 01:08 PM

......... Xxxx

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otaku · 08-04-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Re censorship the Japanese law does not say that uncensored porn is illegal in Japan, it says that content produced in Japan has to be censored, regardless where viewed!

I'm gonna have to correct you on this. Uncensored porn IS illegal in Japan, i.e. any content DISTRIBUTED in Japan has to be censored regardless where it is produced. You cannot sell uncensored Brazzers DVDs in Japan because they were produced in America or Canada. Otherwise Japanese producers would produce all their content in Guam and then sell them uncensored in Japan, which doesn't happen. American porn mags in Japan? They all get the black magic marker treatment. Conversely you can produce content in Japan that is uncensored for distribution overseas like DTI, Red Hot, Sky Angel, etc, as the censorship happens in post anyway.

Captain Kawaii · 08-04-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by otaku

The partner must be DMM (Japan's 800 lb. AV gorilla). They don't have an English affiliate program, tried doing an English version site before giving up within about a year, and started sending out DMCA letters thru Degban about a year ago.

Thats what I thought, actually. In with DMM or ya Fabian? LOL. This will end well.

Captain Kawaii · 08-04-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by otaku

I'm gonna have to correct you on this. Uncensored porn IS illegal in Japan, i.e. any content DISTRIBUTED in Japan has to be censored regardless where it is produced. You cannot sell uncensored Brazzers DVDs in Japan because they were produced in America or Canada. Otherwise Japanese producers would produce all their content in Guam and then sell them uncensored in Japan, which doesn't happen. American porn mags in Japan? They all get the black magic marker treatment. Conversely you can produce content in Japan that is uncensored for distribution overseas like DTI, Red Hot, Sky Angel, etc, as the censorship happens in post anyway.

QFT. Telling it like it is. But, Otaku, please do not correct his lordship anymore. Let him "step in it", himself.

Nathan · 08-04-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by otaku

I'm gonna have to correct you on this. Uncensored porn IS illegal in Japan, i.e. any content DISTRIBUTED in Japan has to be censored regardless where it is produced. You cannot sell uncensored Brazzers DVDs in Japan because they were produced in America or Canada. Otherwise Japanese producers would produce all their content in Guam and then sell them uncensored in Japan, which doesn't happen. American porn mags in Japan? They all get the black magic marker treatment. Conversely you can produce content in Japan that is uncensored for distribution overseas like DTI, Red Hot, Sky Angel, etc, as the censorship happens in post anyway.

You are correct, as soon as published in Japan anything needs to be censored, but I have been told by multiple lawyers that Japanese companies can not distribute outside Japan uncensored either, it has to stay censored.

It would obviously be awesome if proven otherwise, so I will have to look into this again.

MaDalton · 08-04-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

You are correct, as soon as published in Japan anything needs to be censored, but I have been told by multiple lawyers that Japanese companies can not distribute outside Japan uncensored either, it has to stay censored.

It would obviously be awesome if proven otherwise, so I will have to look into this again.

i am pretty sure he's correct - otherwise DTI for example would be operating illegally all these years

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Really? You think? I get this is hard to believe, but I did not design the site, I do not sit next to all 200 designers we have, and I do not control every change on every website that goes up. There is procedures for everything we do, but they get stumbled and broken now and then, and when they do, we correct it as soon as we are made aware, as happened here, on a weekend on top of it. I apologized for the mistake. It was a DESIGN alpha and it was being design tested only, the content is placeholders and thats it. Once the site launches, it will have the correct content on it. I am not sure what content was on it, I did not see the site myself, so I can not comment if some of it was our own/licensed or not. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	CK, we have a direct j/v deal with one of the biggest adult companies in Japan. But thx for the tip. SM, we actually have that. But shocking enough, people break the rules. I know, hard to believe... I am definitely not happy with what happened here, but we fixed the problem as fast as we could... __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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otaku Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 77	DMM is a huge conglomerate that besides distribution includes many of the major studios that produce AV, basically all the stuff you mentioned that gets pirated. It's also rumored they are related to the big video rental chain Tsutaya, Japan's equivalent to Blockbusters except that they're not bankrupt. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokuto_Corporation They won't sell uncensored versions of their titles because it would just be a matter of time before they ended up on the interwebs, and Japanese customers would wonder why should they buy a censored DVD when they can find the uncensored version online. DMM and other Japanese producers have basically had their head in the sand regarding piracy of their content overseas, since they are only focused on the domestic market -- a kind of AV Galapagos syndrome. Language barrier doesn't help. If DMM or SOD (DMM's next biggest rival) were to partner with Manwin, maybe Manwin could educate them on the ills of rampant piracy overseas, so that they would take it more seriously. __________________ TSUNAMI CASH

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