How do I get back at a spammer?

[brocklander]

Just got a spam to my personal address...

Can I fuck up his computer some how?

Can I report him to the FTC?


I WANT REVENGE!!!!

[gezzed]

Everyone gets spam. If the spammer is even half intelligent he will make himself untraceable, so just hit the delete button like everyone else and move on with your life.

[jimmyf]

Yip report'em 2
FTC and the FBI, don't know if it will do any good though.
I've had better results with.


spamcop.net

[Amputate Your Head]

I'm just a sexy Girl!

[brocklander]

Originally posted by gezzed
Everyone gets spam. If the spammer is even half intelligent he will make himself untraceable, so just hit the delete button like everyone else and move on with your life.

Well, I'm not everyone, especially a little pussy like you. I want to stop it, and there are ways. Spam leads to more spam, leads to more spam, etc. I'll be hitting the delete button for 10 mintues soon. Fuck that! I want to stop the source.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander


Well, I'm not everyone, especially a little pussy like you. I want to stop it, and there are ways. Spam leads to more spam, leads to more spam, etc. I'll be hitting the delete button for 10 mintues soon. Fuck that! I want to stop the source.

get MailWasher and you can auto-bounce the spam back to the spammer, delete direct from the server, and block the addy. Problem solved.

[demented]

Originally posted by brocklander


Well, I'm not everyone, especially a little pussy like you. I want to stop it, and there are ways. Spam leads to more spam, leads to more spam, etc. I'll be hitting the delete button for 10 mintues soon. Fuck that! I want to stop the source.

Stop whining. You aren't the only person that gets fucking spam. You're acting like you're special or something. Only YOU shouldn't get spam?? Delete the shit and get over it.

[gezzed]

Originally posted by brocklander


Well, I'm not everyone, especially a little pussy like you. I want to stop it, and there are ways. Spam leads to more spam, leads to more spam, etc. I'll be hitting the delete button for 10 mintues soon. Fuck that! I want to stop the source.

Yeah, there are ways to stop spam, that's why the internet is so spam free. Brock, you're obviously not a very experienced computer user. If the spam does bother you that much I suggest you do what Amp says and get mailwasher or one of the many similar programs out there.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


get MailWasher and you can auto-bounce the spam back to the spammer, delete direct from the server, and block the addy. Problem solved.

Finally some decent advice! Problem is:

"auto-bounce the spam back to the spammer"

(they never use a real return address)



"delete direct from the server"

(already off the server since I checked with my e-mail program)



"block the addy"

(again, they never use a real return address and the never use the same address twice)


We're getting there, but I need some tools that will work.

[Amputate Your Head]

it's free and it works... i filter everything incoming through mailwasher.... I don't get spam anymore..... at all. Although, now I look forward to new ones, cuz it's fun bouncing them back...

[foolio]

Originally posted by brocklander


Well, I'm not everyone, especially a little pussy like you. I want to stop it, and there are ways. Spam leads to more spam, leads to more spam, etc. I'll be hitting the delete button for 10 mintues soon. Fuck that! I want to stop the source.

ya, you are special alright -- short bus special.. I mena if you think you should not get any spam..

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by demented



Stop whining. You aren't the only person that gets fucking spam. You're acting like you're special or something. Only YOU shouldn't get spam?? Delete the shit and get over it.

shit I get over 200 per day 2 one of email address's.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by demented



Stop whining. You aren't the only person that gets fucking spam. You're acting like you're special or something. Only YOU shouldn't get spam?? Delete the shit and get over it.

Did I say I was the only person that got spam idiot? Instead of wasting disk space, why not offer some useful advice? Or, are you just going to be some bitch that lets spammers take advantage of you?

Pathetic.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander



Finally some decent advice! Problem is:

"auto-bounce the spam back to the spammer"

(they never use a real return address)

doesn't matter... it's going back to where it came from... not the fake addy they provide.

Originally posted by brocklander
"delete direct from the server"

(already off the server since I checked with my e-mail program)

not if you filter through mailwasher... you're looking at it as it sits on the server, BEFORE it gets to your mail proggy.... you don't even need your mail client open.

Originally posted by brocklander
"block the addy"

(again, they never use a real return address and the never use the same address twice)


We're getting there, but I need some tools that will work.

trust me.... the addy gets put on a blacklist.... if anything comes from them again, it's auto-bounced and deleted without you ever seeing it.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by foolio


ya, you are special alright -- short bus special.. I mena if you think you should not get any spam..

He's calling me short bus special and he's the one talking like Jar Jar Binks. Uhm....

[TDF]

offer to suck his cock..maybe that way u will be deleted from his list!

[brocklander]

I will give it a try, but...

Blacklisting that addy is pointless...no decent spammer uses the same address twice.



And looking at it through mailwasher or looking at it in my e-mail client takes the same time. I would rather not spend the time looking at it at all. Whether I download it or not is a moot point.


Bouncing it back to the sender is kinda cool (I'm assuming the program looks at the X-sender header). Unfortunately, even the most basic spam mailer deletes the header when sending. The only information you really have is the original sender's IP, which is usually just a computer with no POP3 software running. Therefore, sending any e-mail back to it will only error or get returned.

[Amputate Your Head]

alright.. well, whatever man.... you asked what you could do, and I told ya what I use. It works great for me.... been using it for quite a while now, and I couldn't be happier.

best of luck though....

[demented]

Originally posted by brocklander


Did I say I was the only person that got spam idiot? Instead of wasting disk space, why not offer some useful advice? Or, are you just going to be some bitch that lets spammers take advantage of you?

Pathetic.

Aww is the poor baby upset? He has to revert to name calling? How old are you Brocklander? lol. That's funny how upset he gets because somone tells him the truth and how it is.

Brocklander just stop whining for god's sake. You're E-Machine probably froze when you tried to delete the spam from your hotmail account, and now you're all pissed off. Don't come on a board and cry about getting spammed. You're just making yourself look childish and immature.

[brocklander]

How about some DOS attack software? C'mon all you h@xt0r l33t w00t fags out there, be useful for once!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander
How about some DOS attack software? C'mon all you h@xt0r l33t w00t fags out there, be useful for once!

you can't successfully bounce an email from your server back to a spammer and you think you're gonna pull off a successful DOS attack?



lol

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by gezzed
Everyone gets spam. If the spammer is even half intelligent he will make himself untraceable, so just hit the delete button like everyone else and move on with your life.

If you follow the spam to what he's selling, you can attack THAT or get that entity to put a stop to the spam, I suppose. But I just view spam as a fact of life. I actually can't understand all the people who totally flip out over some spam. Jeezus! There are real problems in the world, and in a list that includes child abuse, war, and other things, spam is somewhere near the bottom of things someone has to do something about.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by demented



Aww is the poor baby upset? He has to revert to name calling? How old are you Brocklander? lol. That's funny how upset he gets because somone tells him the truth and how it is.

Brocklander just stop whining for god's sake. You're E-Machine probably froze when you tried to delete the spam from your hotmail account, and now you're all pissed off. Don't come on a board and cry about getting spammed. You're just making yourself look childish and immature.

I'm not upset, and stop being a fucking hypocrite. You're calling me a baby, childish and immature...who is name calling?

I'm not whining, just asking for some help. I know I'll encounter bullshit from ignorant fucks like you, but sometimes decent people like AMP post something useful, as oppose to a fuckface like you who got into computers last year because mommy whored herself out just so she could buy you a used PowerMac for Christmas. How's AOL 3.0 treating you?

Sit down junior, this is a big boy discussion.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


If you follow the spam to what he's selling, you can attack THAT or get that entity to put a stop to the spam, I suppose. But I just view spam as a fact of life. I actually can't understand all the people who totally flip out over some spam. Jeezus! There are real problems in the world, and in a list that includes child abuse, war, and other things, spam is somewhere near the bottom of things someone has to do something about.

I would rather beat kids into making them fight in the war against Iraq then get a single piece of spam.

None of that other bullshit affects me, I want my spam stopped and so far only Amp and Unseen World have any decent advice. The rest of you don't know how, so you just post fluff.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


you can't successfully bounce an email from your server back to a spammer and you think you're gonna pull off a successful DOS attack?



lol

Ok, I'll bite. How do I bounce an e-mail to a spammer with nothing but the originating IP?

[BruceM]

Originally posted by toodamnfli
offer to suck his cock..maybe that way u will be deleted from his list!

next post by brocklander
I will give it a try, but...

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander



Ok, I'll bite. How do I bounce an e-mail to a spammer with nothing but the originating IP?

dude...



am I typing with a French accent or something?


www.mailwasher.net

[foolio]

So, Broky -- how long have you had that penis stuck in your head?

Grow up dammit - everybody gets spam, get your finger out of your ass and lear to deal with it.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
alright.. well, whatever man.... you asked what you could do, and I told ya what I use. It works great for me.... been using it for quite a while now, and I couldn't be happier.

best of luck though....

Look, I appreciate your advice . I was just curious how it could possibly help considering the functionality you explained. I never get spam from the same sender, the spam I do get I don't want to look at, I don't want to block legitimate e-mails, and I don't know how to generate a fake bounce when the only think I know about the spammer is his computer's IP address.

I would be more than happy to try your solution if you could provide answers to the above questions. But please don't get all huffy puffy if I don't accept what you say right off the bat. I want to solve my spam crisis, not upset people.

[asuna]

Originally posted by brocklander



I want to solve my spam crisis, not upset people.

Get off the internet

[foolio]

Originally posted by brocklander

I want to solve my spam crisis, not upset people.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Spam crisis"?!?!?!? You get ONE fucking spam and its a crisis?? HAHAH, boy are you a little bitch or what?? Shit, most people get one spam in an hour.

Just got a spam to my personal address...

Ohhhh.. I feel sooo bad for you!!

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


dude...



am I typing with a French accent or something?


www.mailwasher.net

Amp, I meant technically. Don't be a fucking smart ass, you're more professional than that. And don't assume I'm a newbie, I'll run circles around most of you when it comes to computers.

Explain to me how a SMTP server will bounce e-mail back to a computer that is not running any type of receiving (POP3) e-mail server? If that can be done, shit, I'll pay mad money for that. Otherwise, that mailwasher program is claiming it does something it doesn't do (unless we're talking about the newbie spammer that not only puts his correct e-mail address in the Reply To: field, he actually checks that account!). Doubtful.


Going to the source product the spammer promotes is the best advice I have heard yet. That to me makes more sense.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander



Look, I appreciate your advice . I was just curious how it could possibly help considering the functionality you explained. I never get spam from the same sender, the spam I do get I don't want to look at, I don't want to block legitimate e-mails, and I don't know how to generate a fake bounce when the only think I know about the spammer is his computer's IP address.

I would be more than happy to try your solution if you could provide answers to the above questions. But please don't get all huffy puffy if I don't accept what you say right off the bat. I want to solve my spam crisis, not upset people.

hahahaha.... look.... I didn't write the fucking software okay... I'm merely a user. If you wanna know the intricate details of how it works, go to their site or call 'em on the phone. All I can tell ya is that it works. And it works nicely. You don't hafta try it if you don't want.... I really don't care.... you can bitch and moan about spam all day long for all I care.... lol

[DarkBob]

I just downloaded mailwasher and it looks promising. Thanks Amp.

[Amputate Your Head]

want a demo? send me an email to spam at opticalamplitude.com and I promise it'll come right back to you...

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


hahahaha.... look.... I didn't write the fucking software okay... I'm merely a user. If you wanna know the intricate details of how it works, go to their site or call 'em on the phone. All I can tell ya is that it works. And it works nicely. You don't hafta try it if you don't want.... I really don't care.... you can bitch and moan about spam all day long for all I care.... lol

Ok, I guess I'll stop being rhetorical 'cause it's just confusing you.

The thing is Amp, you can't bounce an e-mail back to a fake address. Since most spam originates from fake addresses, that feature is pretty much useless, as are the other features in the program. Heck, if spammers used legitimate return addresses, that program would kick ass. But in the real world, that program is pretty much useless.

[quiet]

l fucking ol

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander


Ok, I guess I'll stop being rhetorical 'cause it's just confusing you.

The thing is Amp, you can't bounce an e-mail back to a fake address. Since most spam originates from fake addresses, that feature is pretty much useless, as are the other features in the program. Heck, if spammers used legitimate return addresses, that program would kick ass. But in the real world, that program is pretty much useless.

either way, it doesn't matter.... if it can't bounce it back because the addy was faked, it's still auto-deleted, and added to the blacklist.... so whether it goes back to them or not, I'll never see it again. I can't believe it's this hard to understand.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
want a demo? send me an email to spam at opticalamplitude.com and I promise it'll come right back to you...

I'll try...I don't have all the spamming tools, but I'll do my best... If it works, I have no problem eating my own words.

[brocklander]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


either way, it doesn't matter.... if it can't bounce it back because the addy was faked, it's still auto-deleted, and added to the blacklist.... so whether it goes back to them or not, I'll never see it again. I can't believe it's this hard to understand.

So if the program detects that the sending e-mail is fake, it will auto-delete it? That would work. Why didn't you say so!

Ok, now we're getting somewhere!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander


So if the program detects that the sending e-mail is fake, it will auto-delete it? That would work. Why didn't you say so!

Ok, now we're getting somewhere!

if you'd go read their info, we wouldn't be going in circles....

here... this is from their FAQ... and yes, they really do bounce them:

How does MailWasher bounce messages?
A. MailWasher uses an algorithm to determine the best route to send the bounced message back (from, reply to, return path) and actually sends the bounce back via your ISP's postmaster, so it looks exactly like it has come from your ISP and not from you at your address. If the spammer has used a fake address, then your bounce message will itself be bounced back to the postmaster and you won't receive the bounced bounce email.

[dav555add]

Originally posted by brocklander
Just got a spam to my personal address...

Can I fuck up his computer some how?

Can I report him to the FTC?


I WANT REVENGE!!!!

Have you tried masturbating?
It relieves stress when You don't have a companion to do it for You

[brocklander]

You are misreading this. The bounced bounce e-mail never touches your inbox...the original spam does.


BTW, mail sent to you and I haven't received it back. Of course, that is your spam addy, so you obviously didn't receive it. But had it been your real e-mail addy, you would have received it. Your program would block that e-mail addy in the future, but I would use another fake address next time. And it would get through.

We are going around in circles, because you don't understand the functionality of mailwasher completely or perhaps e-mail completely.

If the program blocked the originating computer's IP address and domain, that would work. If the program could tell if a return address was fake, that would work.

I'm pretty sure mailwasher doesn't do either, so I can't see how effective the program could be. It might stop like 2%, but that's pretty much useless.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by brocklander
You are misreading this. The bounced bounce e-mail never touches your inbox...the original spam does.


BTW, mail sent to you and I haven't received it back. Of course, that is your spam addy, so you obviously didn't receive it. But had it been your real e-mail addy, you would have received it. Your program would block that e-mail addy in the future, but I would use another fake address next time. And it would get through.

We are going around in circles, because you don't understand the functionality of mailwasher completely or perhaps e-mail completely.

If the program blocked the originating computer's IP address and domain, that would work. If the program could tell if a return address was fake, that would work.

I'm pretty sure mailwasher doesn't do either, so I can't see how effective the program could be. It might stop like 2%, but that's pretty much useless.

because now that you've sent one, (yes, I saw it in mailwasher) you're on the blacklist / auto-bounce / auto-delete list.... I'll never see another mail from you. Whether it actually came back to you or not, doesn't much matter to me....

[foolio]

I have a program that will work for you..

Its called "hitting the delete key"

try it, hey - its free and you do not have to download anything..

[Amputate Your Head]

all I can tell ya brock, is that I used to get several HUNDRED spams a day to my inbox..... now with mailwasher, I think maybe two or three actually make it to mailwasher, and they are added to the list as soon as I see them....

now if that's the definaition of "ineffective", I'll take it.

You are complaining about ONE spam that came to your box.... I personally would have simply deleted it and moved on with life, but since you were looking for a solution.... I think mailwasher can handle it quite easily.


I'm not a server guru or a spam professional or a programmer or anything else... but I know I have eliminated several hundred daily spams with this thing.


that's all I'm saying. If you don't feel it is adequate, then don't use it.... it's no skin off my ass.

[beemk]

hold on let me find al gores email... he will personally take care of it for you and send you and apology letter on behalf of the internet.

[AWC]

thanx Amp for the great link

[Amputate Your Head]

plus, it's alot less taxing on the system than leaving Outlook open all day, and alot less taxing on my sanity than seeing spam flooding into my box all day and robbing my time to manually delete them. For a free program, I personally think it's the best thing since the invention of the CD burner.

[scoreman]

http://purplecow.com/vaspam/

Interesting read that is on topic.