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  • dillfly2000
    hey
    • Mar 2012
    • 2209
    #1

    Any big numbers with Chaturbate?

    I just started with them, created a few white labels and promoting a bit.

    Rev share was the only way for me.
    My numbers aren't big "yet", but just curious to see how you guys are doing.
    If you feel like sharing that is.

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    • nexcom28
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2005
      • 3716
      #2
      I didn't even realise they did Revshare, I am on $1 per free.

      Currently at 1,146

      Maybe I need to switch

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        • dillfly2000
          hey
          • Mar 2012
          • 2209
          #3
          Originally posted by nexcom28
          I didn't even realise they did Revshare, I am on $1 per free.

          Currently at 1,146

          Maybe I need to switch
          Make the switch, it's worth it.

          Unless proven otherwise.

          I mean big instant payouts are nice, but I've always stuck to the revshar/pct programs, and eventually you start making more than if you were to go the pay per sign-up route. But it also depends on your traffic source.
          From my experience, rev-share works best with organic traffic, but if you are buying legit bulk traffic that provide mostly real IP's, maybe the PPS method is the way to go, depends how much you invest.
          Last edited by dillfly2000; 07-21-2013, 02:29 PM.
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            • dillfly2000
              hey
              • Mar 2012
              • 2209
              #4
              Anyone else wish to share?
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                • signupdamnit
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6697
                  #5
                  Originally posted by dillfly2000
                  Anyone else wish to share?
                  I used to do well with them about a year ago. For a time I was pulling under 1:100 on embedded impressions on my site (not the uniques sent to them but impressions on my site). At that time I don't think they had official whitelabels. After a couple months the honeymoon started wearing off and I saw numbers which were bad enough to make me quit sending traffic out of principle. It seems like this is a common story though I've seen a few claim to still do very well on other forums.

                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                    • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1238
                      #6
                      i have a guy that spends $256 every other day

                      add me to skype bloggingcrew if you want to view my stats

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                        • Adam_M
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 3800
                          #7
                          12k hits, 217 frees, $24.36. They SUCK!
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                            • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1238
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Adam_M
                              12k hits, 217 frees, $24.36. They SUCK!
                              no you must suck


                              July 19, 2013 152 1 0 $79.99 $16.00
                              July 20, 2013 170 0 0 $83.98 $16.80
                              July 21, 2013 140 1 0 $159.98 $32.00
                              Last edited by 24/7 Blogging Crew; 07-21-2013, 05:14 PM.

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                                • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Oct 2012
                                  • 1238
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                  no you must suck


                                  July 19, 2013 152 1 0 $79.99 $16.00
                                  July 20, 2013 170 0 0 $83.98 $16.80
                                  July 21, 2013 140 1 0 $159.98 $32.00
                                  Total 121098 988 0 $5415.46 $1083.09 < 2013

                                  this is only chaturbate , think of all the other sponsors
                                  Last edited by 24/7 Blogging Crew; 07-21-2013, 05:14 PM.

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                                    • beks001
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                                      • Oct 2006
                                      • 1837
                                      #10
                                      Traffic source is most important.
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                                        • dillfly2000
                                          hey
                                          • Mar 2012
                                          • 2209
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                          Total 121098 988 0 $5415.46 $1083.09 < 2013

                                          this is only chaturbate , think of all the other sponsors
                                          So true, and chaturbate is top notch IMO.

                                          And having conversions so quickly kind of caught me off guard.

                                          Pretty cool to see.
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                                            • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Oct 2012
                                              • 1238
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                              So true, and chaturbate is top notch IMO.

                                              And having conversions so quickly kind of caught me off guard.

                                              Pretty cool to see.

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                                                • georgeyw
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                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                  • 9865
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                                  I just started with them, created a few white labels and promoting a bit.

                                                  Rev share was the only way for me.
                                                  My numbers aren't big "yet", but just curious to see how you guys are doing.
                                                  If you feel like sharing that is.

                                                  You will do well if you continue, keep sending traffic like that and you'll be happy in a few months time
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                                                    • Emil
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                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                      • 5655
                                                      #14
                                                      No big numbers but here's my stats

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                                                        • bluebook18
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                                                          • Mar 2012
                                                          • 4082
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Emil
                                                          No big numbers but here's my stats

                                                          damn nice , there revshare is far better

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                                                            • CamTraffic
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2008
                                                              • 6537
                                                              #16
                                                              Last time i checked they had TONS of leaks on revshare. Promoting dating and other programs, even with my aff ID attached...Wonder if they still have them.
                                                              I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
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                                                                • adultmobile
                                                                  No, I am not banned
                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 5345
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by CamTraffic
                                                                  Last time i checked they had TONS of leaks on revshare. Promoting dating and other programs, even with my aff ID attached...Wonder if they still have them.
                                                                  I think affiliates should just care to the money they make, not if there are leaks (i.e. , adverts to third party site without your tracking id). Let you have site 1 with no leaks that make you $50 a day, and site 2 with leaks which make you $100 a day. Out of a principle you choice site 1 because no leaks?

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                                                                    • PornDiscounts-V
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 5744
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                      I think affiliates should just care to the money they make, not if there are leaks (i.e. , adverts to third party site without your tracking id). Let you have site 1 with no leaks that make you $50 a day, and site 2 with leaks which make you $100 a day. Out of a principle you choice site 1 because no leaks?
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                                                                        • tokmansta
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                                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                                          • 566
                                                                          #19
                                                                          How are you guys doing with EU traffic on tip based cam sites?

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                                                                            • signupdamnit
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                              • 6697
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                              I think affiliates should just care to the money they make, not if there are leaks (i.e. , adverts to third party site without your tracking id). Let you have site 1 with no leaks that make you $50 a day, and site 2 with leaks which make you $100 a day. Out of a principle you choice site 1 because no leaks?
                                                                              Of course you think that. You're a sponsor.

                                                                              Actually this is a common view but there are problems with it.

                                                                              1. If this type of thing gets more accepted then other affiliate programs will also start with the uncredited leaks and the result will be that you the affiliate lose a lot of money. This has happened a lot in adult like with cross sales and chargebacks on revshare. Many things.

                                                                              2. It shows dishonesty and a program doing this is less likely to pay you or be honest with you. It's kind of like inviting someone over for dinner after you caught them trying to steal money from your wallet.

                                                                              3. If they have some leaks now they can always add more later. And they probably will too as much as they think they can get away with. It's free money for them with you providing the free traffic.

                                                                              4. I might also promote the other products which they have leaks for too. So not only am I giving them revenue for free and also probably losing some in lost signups for the main product but I'm also losing revenue by exposing my customers to these other products too.

                                                                              The example you give is nice and all but it seldom works out that way. Usually a program with leaks or these sort of games doesn't do as well as one without them.
                                                                              Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-22-2013, 06:59 AM.

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                                                                                • john1975
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2009
                                                                                  • 981
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  programs with leaks should be banned forever.

                                                                                  pretty stupid on the management's aspect of these programs....as only the truth will eventually be known with Honest programs... and be shared amongst webmasters here and other outlets.

                                                                                  why completely ruin your reputation, by trying to jip webmasters ? pretty stupid idea if u ask me.

                                                                                  The most honest / best converting programs will survive in the long run.

                                                                                  With all this being said...haven't heard anything overly bad about Chaturbate yet.

                                                                                  And in the defense of affiliate programs in general....other webmasters should have open minds when webmasters degrade the affiliate program of another...without solid evidence This day in age, you never know if the ones degrading the 'others' are working for the competition.

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                                                                                    • adultmobile
                                                                                      No, I am not banned
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 5345
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                      Of course you think that. You're a sponsor.
                                                                                      This has happened a lot in adult like with cross sales and chargebacks on revshare. Many things.
                                                                                      The example you give is nice and all but it seldom works out that way. Usually a program with leaks or these sort of games doesn't do as well as one without them.
                                                                                      Originally posted by john1975
                                                                                      programs with leaks should be banned forever.
                                                                                      If you are on revshare this logic it may apply, but what about the $1 per free user lead, this is another world. Perhaps a program should remove leaks for users landed in revshare, and show leaks for users landed on pay per free, this woud be more nice?

                                                                                      About ban programs with leaks: you should ban most them. I am into providing cam plugins (chatgf.com) in member areas of pay sites since many years. So mine cam, plus several others that populate the member areas (some have 1, some 2, some 3+), are not tracking the original affiliate, absolutely sure of this. I never heard any program to ask us to implement tracking for affiliates, the program gets paid by us simply, he keeps all.
                                                                                      The only member-area cam I know of, which tracks sales to affiliates, it is metcams for metart network, since both are interfaced with ccbill (nice job - even I can't love them completely, because they kicked out my cam plugin to put that - hehe).

                                                                                      Finally, while I seen many times lots of drama in GFY about leaks of chaturbate (but not about the ones of 99% of pay site member areas!?), in other (not strictly adult) forums or talking with my affiliates (most or all being also chaturbate + crakrevenue affiliates), I never heard making dramas of leaks. But only seeing talk about the actual money they could make for a defined amount of traffic sent.

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                                                                                        • rocky1234
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2012
                                                                                          • 273
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                                                                          I just started with them, created a few white labels and promoting a bit.

                                                                                          Rev share was the only way for me.
                                                                                          My numbers aren't big "yet", but just curious to see how you guys are doing.
                                                                                          If you feel like sharing that is.

                                                                                          nice stats, what methods u using to promote? just curious.

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                                                                                            • dillfly2000
                                                                                              hey
                                                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                                                              • 2209
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by rocky1234
                                                                                              nice stats, what methods u using to promote? just curious.


                                                                                              Mostly organic.
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                                                                                                • Tjeezers
                                                                                                  Webmaster
                                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                                  • 16603
                                                                                                  #25
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                                                                                                    • lucas131
                                                                                                      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                      • 11475
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      congrats on the sales

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                                                                                                        • slapass
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 14625
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                          If you are on revshare this logic it may apply, but what about the $1 per free user lead, this is another world. Perhaps a program should remove leaks for users landed in revshare, and show leaks for users landed on pay per free, this woud be more nice?

                                                                                                          About ban programs with leaks: you should ban most them. I am into providing cam plugins (chatgf.com) in member areas of pay sites since many years. So mine cam, plus several others that populate the member areas (some have 1, some 2, some 3+), are not tracking the original affiliate, absolutely sure of this. I never heard any program to ask us to implement tracking for affiliates, the program gets paid by us simply, he keeps all.
                                                                                                          The only member-area cam I know of, which tracks sales to affiliates, it is metcams for metart network, since both are interfaced with ccbill (nice job - even I can't love them completely, because they kicked out my cam plugin to put that - hehe).

                                                                                                          Finally, while I seen many times lots of drama in GFY about leaks of chaturbate (but not about the ones of 99% of pay site member areas!?), in other (not strictly adult) forums or talking with my affiliates (most or all being also chaturbate + crakrevenue affiliates), I never heard making dramas of leaks. But only seeing talk about the actual money they could make for a defined amount of traffic sent.
                                                                                                          Once they are in the members area, I know I made something so I am better worth hat.

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                                                                                                            • dillfly2000
                                                                                                              hey
                                                                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                                                                              • 2209
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Tjeezers
                                                                                                              worthful site
                                                                                                              Let me correct that for you.

                                                                                                              Thar she goes.
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                                                                                                                • tokmansta
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2013
                                                                                                                  • 566
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Anyone converting EU traffic on tip based sites?

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                                                                                                                    • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                      • 1238
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tokmansta
                                                                                                                      Anyone converting EU traffic on tip based sites?
                                                                                                                      Romania Count?? tons of sales from there from chaturbate

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                                                                                                                        • DBS.US
                                                                                                                          Geo Cities
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                          • 11841
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Nice
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                                                                                                                            • adultmobile
                                                                                                                              No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                              • 5345
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tokmansta
                                                                                                                              Anyone converting EU traffic on tip based sites?
                                                                                                                              Yes with PayPal via Epoch lately.

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                                                                                                                                • Andreweb
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2013
                                                                                                                                  • 2431
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                                                                                                                  Romania Count?? tons of sales from there from chaturbate
                                                                                                                                  Unfortunately I have a lots of romanian traffic on chaturbate WLs and that traffic sucks! Germany, France, Belgium and U.K. traffic realy converts for cams! I have only a single guy from Germany who spends more then 1000$ at mounth!
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                                                                                                                                    • DVTimes
                                                                                                                                      xxx
                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 31650
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      You have a good ratio.

                                                                                                                                      I find I get 1:400 sign up (give or take) using such as www.probabes.com.

                                                                                                                                      Revshare is best. Those who do £ are daft and would probably have lost thousands. I find that on rev share I make each month for more than from if it was pure $1 per sign ups.
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                                                                                                                                        • Pronstar
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                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2013
                                                                                                                                          • 218
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Wow, I must have done something wrong. I have been dealing with them for a year and after ten thousands of hits I got only pennies. Wrong traffic I guess.
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                                                                                                                                            • dillfly2000
                                                                                                                                              hey
                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                              • 2209
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Pronstar
                                                                                                                                              Wow, I must have done something wrong. I have been dealing with them for a year and after ten thousands of hits I got only pennies. Wrong traffic I guess.
                                                                                                                                              Wait wait wait..... Wha?
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                                                                                                                                                • dillfly2000
                                                                                                                                                  hey
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                                  • 2209
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Pronstar
                                                                                                                                                  Wow, I must have done something wrong. I have been dealing with them for a year and after ten thousands of hits I got only pennies. Wrong traffic I guess.

                                                                                                                                                  Were you buying traffic?

                                                                                                                                                  Beware , most if these "traffic sellers" are really in for fucking you over.

                                                                                                                                                  There a few good ones, but the majority are nothing but steaming piles.
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                                                                                                                                                    • DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                      Geo Cities
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 11841
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Pronstar
                                                                                                                                                      Wow, I must have done something wrong. I have been dealing with them for a year and after ten thousands of hits I got only pennies. Wrong traffic I guess.
                                                                                                                                                      CraigsList traffic?
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                                                                                                                                                        • DVTimes
                                                                                                                                                          xxx
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 31650
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pronstar
                                                                                                                                                          Wow, I must have done something wrong. I have been dealing with them for a year and after ten thousands of hits I got only pennies. Wrong traffic I guess.
                                                                                                                                                          set up a white label like mine: www.probabes.com or you can do it on a blog. see the top of my blog www.banfilth.com. with a word press blog you can make it so when people go on the site they go to the web cam page not blog.
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                                                                                                                                                            • adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                              No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 5345
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                              CraigsList traffic?
                                                                                                                                                              Craiglist guys wrote me about one my affiliates spamming there. They're quick to contact programs.

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                                                                                                                                                                • dillfly2000
                                                                                                                                                                  hey
                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                                                  • 2209
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                  Craiglist guys wrote me about one my affiliates spamming there. They're quick to contact programs.
                                                                                                                                                                  Understandably so.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1238
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dillfly2000
                                                                                                                                                                      Understandably so.
                                                                                                                                                                      hey how were last 7 days?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 34431
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                          The only member-area cam I know of, which tracks sales to affiliates, it is metcams for metart network, since both are interfaced with ccbill (nice job - even I can't love them completely, because they kicked out my cam plugin to put that - hehe).
                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.metcams.com - it's a Streamate white label. How can they track MetArt affiliates when it's Streamate?
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                                                                                                                                                                            • 24/7 Blogging Crew
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1238
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.metcams.com - it's a Streamate white label. How can they track MetArt affiliates when it's Streamate?
                                                                                                                                                                              the same way crakrevenue accounts its customers , on the streamate whitelabels
                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by 24/7 Blogging Crew; 07-25-2013, 06:22 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • CamTraffic
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6537
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                                  I think affiliates should just care to the money they make, not if there are leaks (i.e. , adverts to third party site without your tracking id).

                                                                                                                                                                                  Let you have site 1 with no leaks that make you $50 a day, and site 2 with leaks which make you $100 a day. Out of a principle you choice site 1 because no leaks?
                                                                                                                                                                                  The cam site I promote with no leaks make me more more money than any Other cams sites with leaks.
                                                                                                                                                                                  My 2 criteria are:
                                                                                                                                                                                  • the actual (cam) product ( diversity, quality, hosting, customer service etc...)
                                                                                                                                                                                  and
                                                                                                                                                                                  • the pricing used ( price points, download options, geo billing...)


                                                                                                                                                                                  When these check out, I finally check the affiliate program (revshare options, support, tools, white labels etc...) , I ALWAYS pick revshare, because good cam program on revshare will make you money for LIFE (well at least on my traffic) and if there is a leak to another site with ref ID, I won't promote it, cause you might lose your referred customer forever.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I have looked into Chaturbate because they checked out ok on the 2 criteria I have, however there were leaks on the site ( a lot of them) and their affiliate support was close to non existent when I emailed them about the leaks and Payouts options. By looking at some the stats in this thread here, I can say I am glad I didn't waste any of my traffic on it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  My take on it.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Good day!
                                                                                                                                                                                  I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • AllAboutCams
                                                                                                                                                                                      Femcams.com
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 12234
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                                                                      The cam site I promote with no leaks make me more more money than any Other cams sites with leaks.
                                                                                                                                                                                      My 2 criteria are:
                                                                                                                                                                                      • the actual (cam) product ( diversity, quality, hosting, customer service etc...)
                                                                                                                                                                                      and
                                                                                                                                                                                      • the pricing used ( price points, download options, geo billing...)


                                                                                                                                                                                      When these check out, I finally check the affiliate program (revshare options, support, tools, white labels etc...) , I ALWAYS pick revshare, because good cam program on revshare will make you money for LIFE (well at least on my traffic) and if there is a leak to another site with ref ID, I won't promote it, cause you might lose your referred customer forever.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I have looked into Chaturbate because they checked out ok on the 2 criteria I have, however there were leaks on the site ( a lot of them) and their affiliate support was close to non existent when I emailed them about the leaks and Payouts options. By looking at some the stats in this thread here, I can say I am glad I didn't waste any of my traffic on it.

                                                                                                                                                                                      My take on it.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                                          If you are on revshare this logic it may apply, but what about the $1 per free user lead, this is another world. Perhaps a program should remove leaks for users landed in revshare, and show leaks for users landed on pay per free, this woud be more nice?

                                                                                                                                                                                          About ban programs with leaks: you should ban most them. I am into providing cam plugins (chatgf.com) in member areas of pay sites since many years. So mine cam, plus several others that populate the member areas (some have 1, some 2, some 3+), are not tracking the original affiliate, absolutely sure of this. I never heard any program to ask us to implement tracking for affiliates, the program gets paid by us simply, he keeps all.
                                                                                                                                                                                          The only member-area cam I know of, which tracks sales to affiliates, it is metcams for metart network, since both are interfaced with ccbill (nice job - even I can't love them completely, because they kicked out my cam plugin to put that - hehe).

                                                                                                                                                                                          Finally, while I seen many times lots of drama in GFY about leaks of chaturbate (but not about the ones of 99% of pay site member areas!?), in other (not strictly adult) forums or talking with my affiliates (most or all being also chaturbate + crakrevenue affiliates), I never heard making dramas of leaks. But only seeing talk about the actual money they could make for a defined amount of traffic sent.
                                                                                                                                                                                          To be honest and blunt about it, it's all essentially a scam on the affiliate. In adult 2013 affiliates for the most part are treated like impoverished slaves who should be happy to earn $1 a day. Adult slowly evolved towards this over the last 15 years and I watched it happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Uncredited cross sales
                                                                                                                                                                                          uncredited Member area upsells (like cams)
                                                                                                                                                                                          Clips for sale leaks
                                                                                                                                                                                          Review site buttons (yes, once affiliates often complained about this even - and rightly so)
                                                                                                                                                                                          email harvestors on stage 1 of the signup form without compensation
                                                                                                                                                                                          urls on promo material
                                                                                                                                                                                          urls on banners
                                                                                                                                                                                          popunders to other sites before a sale was made

                                                                                                                                                                                          All of the above mostly used to be something that affiliates would not tolerate and considered dishonest and negative. Especially for revshare. But like I said adult evolved (devolved) into what we have now.

                                                                                                                                                                                          With PPL you still need the visitor to provide an email or register. If there are other options then statistically less will register. Also it opens the door for the sponsor to take advantage of the affiliate by putting up all sorts of other offers they know they don't have to pay the affiliate for. After a while it makes sense for the sponsor to do everything they can to get the customer to sign up for the other options instead of for the one which the affiliate gets credit for.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I could go on but this will generate a lot of disagreement already. It's relative with most people but just because everyone else NOW (it never used to be this way) does it, it does not make it right. Affiliates still in the game often have to make compromises between the lessor of two evils but it doesn't mean we like it. I think this is partially why many adult affiliates have left. The terms get worse every year for the affiliate with new ploys by the sponsors and others to basically steal from them.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Here is the newest thing we are moving towards: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1116466 it only shows the reality of the situation. I think it's only going to get worse. I've even seen one sponsor try to put a minimum volume level in their agreement with terms which basically seemed to say "if you don't do this much in sales per month" you agree to forfeit all commissions. NOT that it is simply carried over but they literally keep the money for themselves.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-26-2013, 05:06 AM.

                                                                                                                                                                                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Also I've seen more than a few people talk about Chaturbate's leaks. There have been a couple threads here if you search. But like I said many affiliates are having to compromise these days because basically almost everyone is trying to screw them or take advantage of them in some way. It's become more acceptable to screw over your affiliates in these ways so more sponsors are doing it. The affiliate must decide whether it is something they will continue to tolerate, compromise on, or if it's time to not be an affiliate. Just as it is with any other "job".

                                                                                                                                                                                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                                                  No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5345
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                                                  metcams - it's a Streamate white label. How can they track MetArt affiliates when it's Streamate?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  They customised it to bill via ccbill's account of met-art, is a little more than a white label.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                                  email harvestors on stage 1 of the signup form without compensation
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes the email api on register forms. On a side note, the program submits the email, but then the dating site who got it, except sales in own site )which will credit to the program), after a week or so, will re-submit and re-sell that email to others, without credit to the program who provided such an email. So the leak is made to the program too, between programs, not just to the affiliates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Let me end with the ultimate leak for cams: the cam girls will take the customer out of the cam site getting paid in western union or paypal for skype shows.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by adultmobile; 07-26-2013, 06:11 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • mopek1
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Also I've seen more than a few people talk about Chaturbate's leaks. There have been a couple threads here if you search. But like I said many affiliates are having to compromise these days because basically almost everyone is trying to screw them or take advantage of them in some way. It's become more acceptable to screw over your affiliates in these ways so more sponsors are doing it. The affiliate must decide whether it is something they will continue to tolerate, compromise on, or if it's time to not be an affiliate. Just as it is with any other "job".
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I appreciate your posts on the affiliate environment in it's current state. Hopefully you can make a few owners listen.

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