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  • nexcom28
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2005
    • 3716

    #1

    Sigh... Who would choose to be an affiliate..

    I feel demoralised today.

    Hosts that can't keep my site online
    Bored of writing articles
    Sponsors that Shave
    Fucking Google
    Fucking Bing
    Minimum payouts
    Sponsors that no payout

    Still the money is nice I guess
  • vdbucks
    Monger Cash
    • Jul 2010
    • 2773

    #2
    Originally posted by nexcom28
    I feel demoralised today.

    Hosts that can't keep my site online
    Bored of writing articles
    Sponsors that Shave
    Fucking Google
    Fucking Bing
    Minimum payouts
    Sponsors that no payout

    Still the money is nice I guess
    1. Hosts that can't keep my site online -- get better hosting

    2. Bored of writing articles -- pay someone else to write them

    3. Sponsors that Shave -- no argument here

    4. Fucking Google -- again, no argument here

    5. Fucking Bing -- no argument again

    6. Minimum payouts -- sorry but if you're expecting us to pay $45 ($65 total) for a $20 wire then you kind of don't get it...

    7. Sponsors that no payout -- again, no argument.

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    • signupdamnit
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2007
      • 6697

      #3
      Then get out. I think there is a tendency among some of us affiliates who have been doing this a while to think this is the only thing we can do. But that's not the case. You have all sort of other opportunities still out there in both mainstream and adult (though far less in adult now). You don't have to be an adult affiliate to make a living from Internet Marketing.

      You state that the money is nice still so I guess you are still satisfied there but if it helps there are all sorts of rumors that many of the top adult companies are very near collapsing and are on a big downward spiral. It's not just you.

      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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      • Rochard
        Jägermeister Test Pilot
        • Dec 2001
        • 75733

        #4
        Host with National Net and then push CCBill only sites. Problem solved.

        I have a blog network and the only sites that make money for me are the CCBill solo girl sites.
        Herschel Savage
        Brooklyn, NY

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        • fuzebox
          making it rain
          • Oct 2003
          • 22351

          #5
          No one's shaving. There's no benefit in this market.

          If you can't make a $50, $100, $200, $500 minimum payout, maybe you should consider doing something else for a living

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          • signupdamnit
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2007
            • 6697

            #6
            Originally posted by fuzebox
            No one's shaving. There's no benefit in this market.
            I disagree. The primary motivation to not shave before other than that you weren't a scumbag was that the affiliate was needed for traffic generation. With the tubes that need is greatly reduced and many affiliates tend to have less traffic. Then many programs have reduced revenue. If a sponsor is facing a choice of closing down the entire program or skimming a little more from the affiliates what are they probably going to do? Adult isn't known for it's ethics. The affiliate income becomes the sponsor's piggy bank to raid one way or another. There is no oversight. No accountability. I think I just read another guy in a different thread suggest that programs should shut down the affiliate programs and just steal the affiliate rebills because nothing will happen to them. This is where the adult affiliate market is now.
            Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-18-2013, 02:38 PM.

            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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            • mineistaken
              See signature :)
              • Apr 2007
              • 29656

              #7
              LOL. These are nothing (valid even in the golden days I guess). Number one is free shit out there and people that no longer pays for porn.

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              • SilentKnight
                Megan Fox's fluffer
                • Oct 2005
                • 24818

                #8
                Originally posted by fuzebox
                If you can't make a $50, $100, $200, $500 minimum payout, maybe you should consider doing something else for a living
                That's assuming he's deriving a living from it...and not just weekend beer money.

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                • Best-In-BC
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 9511

                  #9
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                  • bigluv
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 850

                    #10
                    On the contrary I think the motivation to shave is up and likelihood of being caught and there being significant consequences is actually down overall these days.

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                      No one's shaving. There's no benefit in this market.

                      If you can't make a $50, $100, $200, $500 minimum payout, maybe you should consider doing something else for a living
                      Should You Email Your Members?

                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                      Enough Said.

                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                      • TACNet
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 452

                        #12
                        I really dont understand these affiliate programs that are going bust, shaving or simply not paying out. If you cant cover your costs then your in the wrong biz.

                        We've been running TAC for over 10 years now and we have NEVER missed a payment (and bear in mind we pay our webmodels AND our affiliates a commission). There would have to be some kind of major disaster for us to even consider close it down.

                        See signature for link


                        TAC Amateurs - The World's LARGEST Amateur Porn Network

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                        • Phoenix
                          BACON BACON BACON
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 35475

                          #13
                          add to that sponsors that pay late...then tell you to calm down.
                          or say i can see you are having a bad day so im going offline...lol
                          meanwhile you need to chase payments from them.

                          but when traffic stops...they hit you up bro...its not us..its our accounting department..lol


                          this business never ceases to amaze me
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                          • Crazy Enough
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 449

                            #14
                            Hosts that can't keep my site online - find a better company. I know several reliable web hosting companies.

                            Bored of writing articles - so stop writing, after all writing articles is not the only option, right?

                            Sponsors that Shave - that's sad, but true, and I think most shavers are Cams, that's why I prefer paysites instead.

                            Fucking Google - fuck google

                            Fucking Bing - fuck bing

                            Minimum payouts - most programs have a small $100 minimum, so if you can't make $100 something is very wrong...

                            Sponsors that no payout - You have to try. Avoid small sponsors with poor quality videos, and outdated, with those 1999 looking sites. Search for premium sponsors, with nice girls, nice design, updated frequently.

                            Have fun and good luck.

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                            • mopek1
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 3193

                              #15
                              Here's my list:

                              1- Fuck google: everyone seems to agree
                              2- Google pushing porn away (img search, net search)
                              3- Google hating affiliates
                              4- Tumblr banning and hating on porn
                              5- Reddit's knee-jerk ban hammer
                              6- Paid traffic too expensive to monetize now.
                              7- Fuck tubes, lockers, forums that give everything away free.
                              8- Shaving
                              9- Not as many new sites being launched.
                              10- Established converting sites not updating as much anymore.
                              11- Conversions down everywhere (even dating and cams).
                              12- GFYers claiming 1:50 ratios in every other thread.

                              As an affiliate it seems the walls are closing in on me all around. Still, it's better than a J.O.B.

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                              • Socks
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2002
                                • 8475

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mopek1
                                Still, it's better than a J.O.B.
                                It really isn't. I clocked in 4.5 hours ago, made $180 so far. How's your morning going?

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                                • bluebook18
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 4082

                                  #17
                                  Then find another profession, this industry is not really intended for lazy people

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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bluebook18
                                    Then find another profession, this industry is not really intended for lazy people
                                    Should You Email Your Members?

                                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                    Enough Said.

                                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                    • PR_Glen
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2006
                                      • 9058

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                      Then get out. I think there is a tendency among some of us affiliates who have been doing this a while to think this is the only thing we can do. But that's not the case. You have all sort of other opportunities still out there in both mainstream and adult (though far less in adult now). You don't have to be an adult affiliate to make a living from Internet Marketing.

                                      You state that the money is nice still so I guess you are still satisfied there but if it helps there are all sorts of rumors that many of the top adult companies are very near collapsing and are on a big downward spiral. It's not just you.
                                      You should probably stop advising people around here... You have made it quite clear on this board that you have not succeeded at anything in a long time in this industry. How can your advise help others exactly?
                                      webmaster at pimproll dot com

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                                      • mopek1
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 3193

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by bluebook18
                                        Then find another profession, this industry is not really intended for lazy people
                                        To be fair, even us hard workers are finding it tough.

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                                        • Magnetron
                                          Lord High Groundhog
                                          • Jun 2013
                                          • 1841

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nexcom28
                                          Sigh... Who would choose to be an affiliate..
                                          The real question is, who would choose to be remain an affiliate in this current climate?

                                          The answer is:

                                          Someone who enjoys being a part of the industry no matter how much commision he makes and or relishes the challenge of making a substantial income in these less than optimal conditions.
                                          .
                                          Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                          and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                          While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                          with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                          you stood for
                                          ever before the window saying
                                          nothing

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                                          • signupdamnit
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2007
                                            • 6697

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                            You should probably stop advising people around here... You have made it quite clear on this board that you have not succeeded at anything in a long time in this industry. How can your advise help others exactly?
                                            I don't know why Pimproll pays a hot headed, low IQ ass to post on the boards and stalk affiliates all day starting fights but whatever. You're probably someone's cousin or BIL. I'm just going to put you on ignore at this point and be done with it.
                                            Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-19-2013, 09:57 AM.

                                            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                            • PR_Glen
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2006
                                              • 9058

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                              I don't know why Pimproll pays a hot headed, low IQ ass to post on the boards and stalk affiliates all day starting fights but whatever. You're probably someone's cousin or BIL. I'm just going to put you on ignore at this point and be done with it.
                                              It would make you feel better if any of that were true wouldn't it? Keep pretending and dreaming up reasons why you aren't successful. It's obviously paying off well for you now.
                                              webmaster at pimproll dot com

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                                              • Google Expert
                                                Webmaster
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 14294

                                                #24
                                                Think outside the box.

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                                                • The Porn Nerd
                                                  Living The Dream
                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                  • 19787

                                                  #25
                                                  Feeling better today? Made a sale or two?
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                                                  • RyuLion
                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 32369

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                    No one's shaving. There's no benefit in this market.

                                                    If you can't make a $50, $100, $200, $500 minimum payout, maybe you should consider doing something else for a living
                                                    /Thread

                                                    Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995
                                                    Affiliate Support: Chaturbate | CCBill Live

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                                                    • nexcom28
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                      • 3716

                                                      #27
                                                      Feel much better today thanks MisterPeabody.

                                                      I was pretty pissed because I just moved to a new host based on recommendations here and my main site was down for 8 hours.
                                                      A few updates and it's all sorted again.

                                                      Still not happy with Google, Bing, Minimum Payouts and Shaving Sponsors though!

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                                                      • nexcom28
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                        • 3716

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RyuLion
                                                        /Thread
                                                        You can take your 4 cents and shove em up your ass. you have no idea.

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                                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                                          Living The Dream
                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                          • 19787

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by nexcom28
                                                          Feel much better today thanks MisterPeabody.

                                                          I was pretty pissed because I just moved to a new host based on recommendations here and my main site was down for 8 hours.
                                                          A few updates and it's all sorted again.

                                                          Still not happy with Google, Bing, Minimum Payouts and Shaving Sponsors though!
                                                          LOL I don't blame you! My main site, Mister Peabody World, was down for a couple days this week due to a domain/hosting debacle that was 100% my fault for being the idiot who set things up that way in the first place 6 years ago when I knew nada. LOL

                                                          The most infuriating thing about the Internet is that I DO NOT CONTROL EVERY WEBSITE ON IT GRRRR!
                                                          My Affiliate Programs:
                                                          Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                                                          Over 90 paysites to promote!
                                                          Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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                                                          • nexcom28
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                            • 3716

                                                            #30
                                                            What amazes me is that you can blissfully go about your business for days, weeks, months, years without realising a problem until BAM! your host says your using to many resources stop it or we will suspend you.
                                                            I was like WTF, I have no idea what the problem is, it's been fine for the last 2 months.

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                                                            • kinkstercash
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Mar 2010
                                                              • 77

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TACNet
                                                              I really dont understand these affiliate programs that are going bust, shaving or simply not paying out. If you cant cover your costs then your in the wrong biz.

                                                              We've been running TAC for over 10 years now and we have NEVER missed a payment (and bear in mind we pay our webmodels AND our affiliates a commission). There would have to be some kind of major disaster for us to even consider close it down.

                                                              See signature for link
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                                                              • signupdamnit
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                • 6697

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by nexcom28
                                                                What amazes me is that you can blissfully go about your business for days, weeks, months, years without realising a problem until BAM! your host says your using to many resources stop it or we will suspend you.
                                                                I was like WTF, I have no idea what the problem is, it's been fine for the last 2 months.
                                                                There may not really be a problem. The host could be shaking you down to try to get you to pay more to upgrade or you might be using more resources than they anticipated in pricing the deal they gave you.

                                                                You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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