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Old 07-16-2013, 12:54 PM   #1
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The facts about black crime

Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.
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Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.

You do know it's against the rules to use logic around here right?
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Sadly you are absolutely right, and of course the statistics.

Some family members on my brother-in-law's side were victims of a gang initiation of some blacks in their late teens. They beat his uncle and somewhat his aunt with brass knuckles. They actually changed curfew in that city because of that.

I was at my Grandma's funeral recently and the pastor discussed how his father became gravely ill for 6 months and the community completely took care off him and his family, paying daily visits. Whites, and particularly the Jews, are about community.
There is a reason why after the floods in Iowa that the mess and disaster is cleaned up in no time in areas with dense populations of whites...
and why New Orleans, after hurricane Katrina (will be a decade before too long) is still somewhat an ongoing process.
Blacks lack community.

There is a reason why Jews, despite being a relatively small population in the world, are at the top in many executive positions or leaders. They plot, plan, and cooperate.
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stats makes sense for Merica if you keep in mind the history
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stats makes sense for Merica if you keep in mind the history
...and yet I'm still more than happy to buy Japanese cars and deal with them.
There's still grudges but you don't see aggressive acts from Jews on to Germans.
If they do deal, it's on a much higher and intellectual level e.g. potentially inflating the number of victims in concentration camps to get greater payback from wartime Germany.

...This is just another reason to be leery, do you really want to carry that baggage. Move on.

By justifying current actions from past treatment, you are only making it far worse on how people stereotype and treat you in the future.
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...and yet I'm still more than happy to buy Japanese cars and deal with them.
There's still grudges but you don't see aggressive acts from Jews on to Germans.
If they do deal, it's on a much higher and intellectual level e.g. potentially inflating the number of victims in concentration camps to get greater payback from wartime Germany.

...This is just another reason to be leery, do you really want to carry that baggage. Move on.

By justifying current actions from past treatment, you are only making it far worse on how people stereotype and treat you in the future.
you got it wrong bruh. whites created a black monster in merica through a long history of mistreatment and segregation and now gotta deal with it. edit: not to mention the blacks that were brought here were the losers of tribal wars back in the muthaland. The bottom of the barrel. Fuck yall thought was gonna happen? lol

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Sadly you are absolutely right, and of course the statistics.



There is a reason why Jews, despite being a relatively small population in the world, are at the top in many executive positions or leaders. They plot, plan, and cooperate.


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It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.
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There is a reason why Jews, despite being a relatively small population in the world, are at the top in many executive positions or leaders. They plot, plan, and cooperate.
No culture has ever went down in flames by placing a strong emphasis on family, family values, useful traditions, education and achievement.

This is why check cashing places and pawn shops are not full of Koreans, Indians, Jews, Arabs, Japanese etc etc etc
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yeah its not racist. targeting a single race is not racism!
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Historically, whites have all other races beat when it comes to crimes (VIOLENT and non violent) committed.

Christianity, king leopold, slavery, American Indians. Step back and look at your past and see how it affected your present.
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civil rights act was passed 50 years ago

so that should make up for slavery and segregation right??
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I grew up in Hawaii the lowest white demographic state in the US under 25% and Washington DC approx 30% white.

Until I was 24 years old I was a minority by a large percentage. Let me just say DC was nothing like Hawaii.

(then I moved to Florida where I was a non meth head minority)


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civil rights act was passed 50 years ago
apparently the civil rights act was just the product of a "race pimp" who used cited race and current political tensions to "make a name for himself".

when i was growing up reading about all that, all i could say to myself was: 'this guy is a HERO'.

thanks, gfy, for teaching me about race pimps
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No culture has ever went down in flames by placing a strong emphasis on family, family values, useful traditions, education and achievement.

This is why check cashing places and pawn shops are not full of Koreans, Indians, Jews, Arabs, Japanese etc etc etc
I remember talking in another thread I started about Adam Carolla getting into it with Gavin Newsom.
Talking in circles as to not offend, and solving 0 problems.

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apparently the civil rights act was just the product of a "race pimp" who used cited race and current political tensions to "make a name for himself".

when i was growing up reading about all that, all i could say to myself was: 'this guy is a HERO'.

thanks, gfy, for teaching me about race pimps
I used that term "race pimp" to describe ass-wipe Al Sharpton and now you are inferring I applied the term to every black man in the history of civil rights. Fuck you Richard.

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Christianity, king leopold, slavery, American Indians. Step back and look at your past and see how it affected your present.
how much is enough for you to get in the mix? dont believe the media there are white people out there in the streets. when mlk marched there were white folks there.
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I remember talking in another thread I started about Adam Carolla getting into it with Gavin Newsom.
Talking in circles as to not offend, and solving 0 problems.

That guy is such a phony asshole. He automatically goes to "blacks and Hispanics have all these problems"... Because he has to placate his voter base as a democrat. Then why cornered with "why did you single these groups out" he talks in circles because there can't be a honest discussion on the subject without him offending the same 2 groups. This is the problem. We don't have problems with racism, we have a problem with appeasement and denial.
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Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.
13% of the population, yet 55% of the murdered and 93% of the blacks killed are killed by blacks.... gee I guess if I was more understanding, you know just reach out and shit that would stop?
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I used that term "race pimp" to describe ass-wipe Al Sharpton and now you are inferring I applied the term to every black man in the history of civil rights. Fuck you Richard.

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and im here to tell you the same shit was said about King, and he was shot for it.

so you can pick and choose you like or don't like, but im going to call it like it is

every time.

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and im here to tell you the same shit was said about King, and he was shot for it.

so you can pick and choose you like or don't like, but im going to call it like it is

every time.
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you are good peoples
we all are

lots in the world who don't even care to discuss it
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Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.
If it is Black on Black, it doesn't count....
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and im here to tell you the same shit was said about King, and he was shot for it.

so you can pick and choose you like or don't like, but im going to call it like it is

every time.
Half the shit you post no one understands anyway just don't misquote me or use terms that infer you are talking about me.

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Half the shit you post no one understands anyway just don't misquote me or use terms that infer you are talking about me.

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that old line?

just because you are unable to understand, doesn't mean it can't be understood.
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Half the shit you post no one understands anyway just don't misquote me or use terms that infer you are talking about me.

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you appear to be a rejected extra from the tv show Renegade j/k your post crack me up!
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you appear to be a rejected extra from the tv show Renegade j/k your post crack me up!
lol ??? I need a beer, how about you.
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That looks interesting, Baddog take the beer photos?


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That looks interesting, Baddog take the beer photos?


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certainly hope so, it's a great brewery in a great spot with fantastic beers



brewery is just behind where this pic is pointing.. what you're looking at is a market that was a spin off from pike place market etc
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lol ??? I need a beer, how about you.
i think you add value to topics without racial slurs
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Profiling based on facts is not racist.
A cop I've work with recently says profiling isn't racist - it's an educated guess.

I tend to agree with him.
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truth is every "racial" issue is about economics, like most social "issues".

Blacks were denied access to education and free market capitalism from the industrial revolution through the 1950's by slavery and institutionalized racism.

The black issue was not as simple as saying they should have just worked harder.

They were denied access. They're not the only people, either. They just happen to be very polarizing because they lived in what was predominantly a very Northern European country.

Assimilating black women was not carried out in such a way as was in Islamic countries, and later the Southern European colonies.

I've always been fascinated by that, as that process really makes it all worthwhile.

Why even bother?
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I tend to agree with him.
that's funny, that form of judgement can be applied to people doing BDSM.. and is..
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...and yet I'm still more than happy to buy Japanese cars and deal with them.
There's still grudges but you don't see aggressive acts from Jews on to Germans.
If they do deal, it's on a much higher and intellectual level e.g. potentially inflating the number of victims in concentration camps to get greater payback from wartime Germany.

...This is just another reason to be leery, do you really want to carry that baggage. Move on.

By justifying current actions from past treatment, you are only making it far worse on how people stereotype and treat you in the future.
One of the problems, however, is that if you are black you will have to deal with those stereotypes your entire life even if they don't apply to you.

One of my best friends is black. She is very cool, very smart, very driven and comes from a great family. A few years ago she started nursing school. The college that she went to was mostly white (like 90% white). She said that at least 2-3 times per day everyday for the first couple of months she was there she was asked if she was going to go out for the basketball team. She never mentioned basketball to anyone, she is not tall or particularly athletic, they just assumed that since she was black she was going to play basketball. She would also hear the phrases "your people" and "people like you" every single day that she was there. Most of these people were not trying to be mean. They were likely not racists. They are just ignorant. They would never in a million years think of saying these things to a white person, but they do to her because she is black. They expected her to behave different because she was black then when she didn't they were shocked and were not shy about telling her. Imagine if every day, multiple times per day, people told you that they were happy to see you weren't a black toothed meth head white person like they see on TV and when you didn't rob them or beat them up they actually mentioned how it was nice to not have to worry about that kind of stuff around you. Eventually it would start to piss you off.

She has also never gotten so much as a speeding ticket, but has been pulled over at least a dozen times for various reasons. Of course the reality is that she has always worked and always owned a decent car (nothing fancy but decent) and she is getting pulled over for driving while black. She and her husband (who is white) moved into a neighborhood that is almost all white. She was stopped by the cops four times in the first two weeks they lived there. The final time she was stopped she actually asked the officer if he would take her picture and send it to the other officers so that they all knew that there was a black person living in their town and that she does in fact belong here so they don't have to stop her. He told her it wasn't funny, but when she told him this was her fourth stop in 14 days he suddenly ended the stop and let her go.

Many black people deal with this shit all of their lives.

This doesn't forgive the violence. In many communities that are down people come together to try to pull each other up. In many black communities that are down some of the people will stomp on others to do whatever they have to in order to elevate each other. They sell drugs, shoot each other for being on the wrong street or wearing the wrong color and steal from each other. It is ridiculous.

The sad thing is that it will not stop until there is a sea change in this country. First, black people and black communities need to realize that they need to band together and help each other instead of using each other. Second, white people need to realize that black people banding together is not something dangerous. They also need to change their general thoughts and actions. The second you either forgive someone for their actions because of their race, or you expect them to act in a certain way because of their race you are contributing to the problem.
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And look...BDSMers are rioting in the streets, too.
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One of the problems, however, is that if you are black you will have to deal with those stereotypes your entire life even if they don't apply to you.
Yep, and as a culture if you don't like that, knock it off.

Listen to the video below with Adam on stereotypes, completely true.
Stereotypes stick, because they are true.

It may not be fair to the individual, but that's the way it is.
You can really lower the discrimination if you dress nice, and don't have the bad mannerisms.


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Historically, whites have all other races beat when it comes to crimes (VIOLENT and non violent) committed.

Christianity, king leopold, slavery, American Indians. Step back and look at your past and see how it affected your present.
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Blacks were denied access to education and free market capitalism from the industrial revolution through the 1950's by slavery and institutionalized racism.

The black issue was not as simple as saying they should have just worked harder.
what is their excuse in countries where this didn't happen then?
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Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.
Cross reference those stats with education and income statistics and you see why its this way. Blacks are much poorer and less educated than whites.

Of course you can't expect a white dominated political system to do anything about this. If they actually gave black people the same opportunities as whites they might start making more money and then we would have a %25 black population like we did back in slave days, can't have that now.
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what is their excuse in countries where this didn't happen then?
Are you asking about their attitude in Britain for instance?

And it's not an excuse as much as it is a historical reality. Poverty and the forces of impoverishment are real.

They've been pretty much exploited across the board, even in Africa.

The population number is what is of significance with regard to the US during the time period I indicated.
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Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.
Can't argue with facts.

Unless you are stupid. And we know that stupidity is a little bit common.

By the way it should be more than 3-4-5 times more likely. I mean whites compose like 5 times more population than blacks PLUS they make at least 2 times less crimes (less than 30% if blacks make 70%). Meaning it would be like 10 times more likely, not just 3-4-5. At least 10 times... maybe 15? 20?
Correct me if my caltulations are wrong, but it does not look so...

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Yep, and as a culture if you don't like that, knock it off.

Listen to the video below with Adam on stereotypes, completely true.
Stereotypes stick, because they are true.

It may not be fair to the individual, but that's the way it is.
You can really lower the discrimination if you dress nice, and don't have the bad mannerisms.

If you walk around acting like a gangster and dressing in pants that hang down to your ass while talking like Lil Wayne, then you are part of the reason the stereotype exists and people will stereotype you so long as you act that way.

If you dress nice, act nice and are a decent person who is well spoken and treats people with respect, things will be better for you, but it still exists. My friend is a nurse, she doesn't hang around bad people and she herself will admit that many black people play right into the stereotypes, but she still feels the brunt of it partially because many people are either deep down racists (and may not even know it), or they hold a racial bias (and may not even know it), or they are unable to see black people as individuals (and may not even know it).

There is zero reason anyone who meets my friend should assume she is anything but a nice person. She dresses well, has a great job, lives in a nice neighborhood and treats people with respect. She is well spoken and intelligent. If you spend five minutes with her you will see that. Still, many people see her skin color and automatically assume things about her. She can't change the entire community. She is changing it in a passive way by leaving it and not participating in that crap, but there are still plenty of people who will stereotype her simply because they are unable to do anything else.
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