The facts about black crime - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

24/7 Blogging Crew · 07-16-2013, 05:45 PM

fiddy racists on gfy

kane · 07-16-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.

Where did you get this number?

According to this page for 2011 there were about 9.5 million arrests made in the us for various crimes. Of those 2.7 million were black people. That is about 28%

mineistaken · 07-16-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Where did you get this number?

According to this page for 2011 there were about 9.5 million arrests made in the us for various crimes. Of those 2.7 million were black people. That is about 28%

He was speaking about violent crimes, not various crimes.

L-Pink · 07-16-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 24/7 Blogging Crew

fiddy racists on gfy

Hey chris, why don't you fuck off?

Screwing forum members under various nics isn't considered contributing.

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mikesinner · 07-16-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.

That comes out to about 5 times the crime rate for blacks Vs whites and guess what, whites are 5 times richer than blacks in America, kind of lets the air out of your statistics doesn't it?

johnnyloadproductions · 07-16-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

That comes out to about 5 times the crime rate for blacks Vs whites and guess what, whites are 5 times richer than blacks in America, kind of lets the air out of your statistics doesn't it?

Mike, as I know from your previous thread, you seem to be under a lot of financial strain. Have you committed a crime lately? Probably not.

mineistaken · 07-16-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

That comes out to about 5 times the crime rate for blacks Vs whites and guess what, whites are 5 times richer than blacks in America, kind of lets the air out of your statistics doesn't it?

Nope. As I posted already, if those numbers are correct, it would come to AT LEAST 10 times crime rate because there are like 5 times more whites than blacks PLUS they commit at least 2 times less crimes (100%-70%). So there is at least 10 times, not 5 times crime rate... And it maybe even 15, 20 times crime rate because our of those 30% there are also latino, asian crime..

Again - if numbers posted by OP are correct.

L-Pink · 07-16-2013, 06:02 PM

When I go to dinner I don't care about the color of the owner, chef, bartender, or waitress.
When I owned retail stores I hired based on the applicants ability to do the job and make me money, not color.

My favorite actors are black.
My favorite athletes are black.
My favorite musicians are black.
My favorite comedians are black.

I don't think I'm prejudiced. I don't wake up hating anyone, wishing anyone harm or bad luck.

But ???.

Why is it when I see black youths walking down the street I view most of them with apprehension?
Why is it when other ethnic youths walk down the street I don't?
Why have black women decided it's unimportant no one can spell or pronounce their children's names?

Why has the current black culture gone out of their way to portray themselves as thugs?
Why do black youth dress and act like thugs?
Why is being uneducated cool?
Why are song lyrics about killing and raping cool?

Why does it seem the black culture goes out of the way not to be part of "society"?
Why are attitude, gangs, drugs and broken families the accepted norm?

Who the hell thought having Al Sharpton represent the black community was a positive thing?

Some of us try, we really do. But God Dammit help us out a little! OK?

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davethedope · 07-16-2013, 06:04 PM

So many pornographers concerned with morality.

I think this middle-class strivers mentality being demonstrated proves that most people can't appreciate just how rich, rich people are.

They have some sense of it, but choose to ignore the stark reality of powerlessness

kane · 07-16-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

He was speaking about violent crimes, not various crimes.

If you use that same page and just look at the violent crimes it is still nowhere near 75%.

There was a story this week that the police chief in New York said 75% of violent crimes in New York are committed by black people. I wonder if that might be what he is referring to.

mineistaken · 07-16-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

If you use that same page and just look at the violent crimes it is still nowhere near 75%.

There was a story this week that the police chief in New York said 75% of violent crimes in New York are committed by black people. I wonder if that might be what he is referring to.

Good catch. Although crimes rates from OP are still correct.
Take murder numbers. 50% committed by blacks, 50% by whites. There are 5 times more whites than blacks so here you go, 5 times the crime rate as OP states.

ps: Where are latinos, I assume they are in "white" column? Well that "pollutes" white numbers, meaning that actual crime rate would be way more than 5 times.

ps: OP states 70%, not 75%, not that it matter here, just saying.

kane · 07-16-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Good catch. Although crimes rates from OP are still correct.
Take murder numbers. 50% committed by blacks, 50% by whites. There are 5 times more whites than blacks so here you go, 5 times the crime rate as OP states.

ps: Where are latinos, I assume they are in "white" column? Well that "pollutes" white numbers, meaning that actual crime rate would be way more than 5 times.

ps: OP states 70%, not 75%, not that it matter here, just saying.

I'm not sure where Latinos fall. They sure aren't on the list so they must be getting included in one of the other groups.

Still, the OP said, "Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.) "

That simply is not the case based on these numbers. In some cases they might commit a much higher percentage of the crimes per person than whites, but they are not committing 75 % of the violent crimes.

mineistaken · 07-16-2013, 06:34 PM

Again, Op said 70% not 75%. Again, not that it matters, just saying.
Anyway, lets wait till OP shows up with explanation regarding those 70%.

kane · 07-16-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Again, Op said 70% not 75%. Again, not that it matters, just saying.
Anyway, lets wait till OP shows up with explanation regarding those 70%.

Not sure why I keep writing 75% when I do actually intend to write 70%. My brain must be shorting out tonight.

mineistaken · 07-16-2013, 06:43 PM

You think of those NYC stats, most likely

azpoindexter · 07-16-2013, 06:58 PM

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fiddy racists on gfy

Funniest part is that you post racist and or idiotic things every day I have been on here. I can't seem to go to a post or make a post without seeing something stupid from you. The craziest part is that for all the racist (against whites and blacks) stuff you post you look as white as me but side with your black ancectery. Does all this come from some sort of self hate and racial confusion? Your mom is white, your dad is black, your two kids look even whiter. Does the shit you post, like the nigga video that got blackmonsters banned even cross your mind when you go to visit your cousins like kamua or tanya. What would cedron think? End of the day, it obviously doesn't bother you and you will just keep trolling and apparently scamming, but you are hating on your own people on both sides of your family.

azpoindexter · 07-16-2013, 07:25 PM

ancestry

HeadPimp · 07-16-2013, 07:44 PM

Amen! You don't see me rolling around in a jacked up truck with mudders, spitting chaw. I come from white trash land but you won't catch me perpetuating the stereotype. Hell I won't even drink Coors Light! LOL

If you want to be respected, then you have to act like you are worth respect. It won't help with everyone, but it will go a long ways towards changing things.

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If you walk around acting like a gangster and dressing in pants that hang down to your ass while talking like Lil Wayne, then you are part of the reason the stereotype exists and people will stereotype you so long as you act that way.

If you dress nice, act nice and are a decent person who is well spoken and treats people with respect, things will be better for you, but it still exists. My friend is a nurse, she doesn't hang around bad people and she herself will admit that many black people play right into the stereotypes, but she still feels the brunt of it partially because many people are either deep down racists (and may not even know it), or they hold a racial bias (and may not even know it), or they are unable to see black people as individuals (and may not even know it).

There is zero reason anyone who meets my friend should assume she is anything but a nice person. She dresses well, has a great job, lives in a nice neighborhood and treats people with respect. She is well spoken and intelligent. If you spend five minutes with her you will see that. Still, many people see her skin color and automatically assume things about her. She can't change the entire community. She is changing it in a passive way by leaving it and not participating in that crap, but there are still plenty of people who will stereotype her simply because they are unable to do anything else.

Minte · 07-16-2013, 07:53 PM

Madison is not the hotbed for racial unrest.. The community has a large minority population that never has issues. The common denominator is education. Every black man and woman that I know has at least a bachelors degree. They have real families, children that have two parents in their lives.

Marcus Aurelius · 07-16-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yeah its not racist. targeting a single race is not racism!

Why do facts make you so upset?

Marcus Aurelius · 07-16-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner

That comes out to about 5 times the crime rate for blacks Vs whites and guess what, whites are 5 times richer than blacks in America, kind of lets the air out of your statistics doesn't it?

No it doesn't.

The ones stealing and murdering are doing well until they get caught or get dead.
Food stamps and low or no housing costs remove reasons for crimes of stealing and there is no reason to murder or attack someone unless self defense of you or others.
That poverty shit with crime may have been true a hundred years ago in "can I have more sir" times but not today.
That gangsta nowadays has rims that would pay a few house notes or rent for a summer.
People were poorer during the depression and they didn't get like this.
You Sir, are guilty of making excuses.

Marcus Aurelius · 07-16-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

If you use that same page and just look at the violent crimes it is still nowhere near 75%.

There was a story this week that the police chief in New York said 75% of violent crimes in New York are committed by black people. I wonder if that might be what he is referring to.

When you analyze the statistics, the results are very illuminating...

Blacks comprise about 13% of the US population
Half are females, so it's down to roughly 6.5%
Black males between the ages of 0-12 reduce the percentage even further.
Black males over the age of 45 don't commit that much crime, either
A large number of black men are incarcerated in the penal system-they aren't out committing crimes

So, the huge amount of violent crime attributable to blacks in this country is overwhelmingly committed by an age cohort (13-44) of black men that can't be even 2.5% of the population.

kane · 07-16-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

Madison is not the hotbed for racial unrest.. The community has a large minority population that never has issues. The common denominator is education. Every black man and woman that I know has at least a bachelors degree. They have real families, children that have two parents in their lives.

This is a good point. Education and opportunity go a long ways towards a person's future.

A few years back I watched this pair documentaries about gangs in Little Rock, Arkansas. The first movie was mostly about a guy who had just gotten out of jail after 15 years. He was a gang member when he went in and he was trying to start a program to get kids out of gangs. As he and the filmmakers talked to these kids it was crazy. Many of them were 10-15 years old and they had already given up on life. They just assumed they would be in a gang and either end up in jail or dead. The idea of getting a job at McDonalds or somewhere similar, getting an education and getting out of the cycle was a crazy to them as if you had told them to fly to Mars. Their parents were/are in the system and in gangs so are their brothers and sisters so will they be. It is like many of them don't even care to break the cycle.

At the same time there was one kid the guy helped who got a job, stayed in school then went away to college.

The second movie took place 10 years later. Many of the gang members were still in the gangs, others were dead or in jail and nothing had changed. That one guy had gotten a degree and was now working as an accountant in some large company. He made a good living, got married and had a kid and had a great future ahead of him. When the filmmakers tried to use him as an example to these other kids that you can get out and have a good life they immediately put the other guy down. He was an Uncle Tom or they considered him some kind of race traitor because he got a job and is living a normal life. He is "working for the man."

It was sad, depression, mind boggling and infuriating at the same time.

Meanwhile, I grew up in a small redneck town. We were very poor when I was a kid, but my mom made sure we went to school and told us all the time that we can achieve great things in our lives if we try and we work hard. We grew up feeling like we could go somewhere.

kane · 07-16-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When you analyze the statistics, the results are very illuminating...

Blacks comprise about 13% of the US population
Half are females, so it's down to roughly 6.5%
Black males between the ages of 0-12 reduce the percentage even further.
Black males over the age of 45 don't commit that much crime, either
A large number of black men are incarcerated in the penal system-they aren't out committing crimes

So, the huge amount of violent crime attributable to blacks in this country is overwhelmingly committed by an age cohort (13-44) of black men that can't be even 2.5% of the population.

I don't doubt that black males are committing a larger than normal (even much larger than normal) amount of crimes. I am simply saying that they are not committing 70% of the crimes. The numbers just don't add up.

Major (Tom) · 07-16-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

Blacks comprise 13% of the population but commit 70% of all violent crimes. (per FBI stat.)

It's not about white racism, it's about blacks committing crimes at much higher rates than whites.

Profiling based on facts is not racist.

The old stereotype of crossing the road to avoid passing black "youth" is rational since he is 5 times more likely to murder you and 3 to 4 times more likely to mug you than a white or Asian.

more disturbing stats on www.blackonblackcrime.com

it's unfortunate...
Duke

Google Expert · 07-17-2013, 12:45 AM

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This is a good point. Education and opportunity go a long ways towards a person's future.

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Cross reference those stats with education and income statistics and you see why its this way. Blacks are much poorer and less educated than whites.

WEST VIRGINIA:

Lowest crime rate in America.
Almost the lowest per capita income.
Population: 95% White, 3.2% Black

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Of course you can't expect a white dominated political system to do anything about this. If they actually gave black people the same opportunities as whites they might start making more money

You got to be shitting me. Blacks get more opportunities in the form of government handouts and affirmative action than any other racial group in the country.

You apologists are running out of excuses but don't want to face up to facts.

Captain Kawaii · 07-17-2013, 01:03 AM

Been a lot of analysts, professors and people with advanced degrees, all people of color on the pundit shows last couple days. Most of them are as white as I am intellectually and culturally. They all suggest that racism is restricted to whites only.

what I would like to see would be a panel made up of Trayvon's peers, his friends from Miami, the nude girls in the cell pics, you know, people he hung out with. I'd like to hear what they have to say. See his "Crew" and such. His parents and their friends.

Fun would be to have a debate between Trayvon's crew and the pundits with Tavis Smiley moderating.

You get my points?

L-Pink made some solid points earlier about favorite artists and workers vs who we are confronted with on the street. Ditto for me. A prime example today was the LA city hall protest vs last nights Crenshaw protest.

Captain Kawaii · 07-17-2013, 01:10 AM

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WEST VIRGINIA:

Lowest crime rate in America.
Almost the lowest per capita income.
Population: 95% White, 3.2% Black

You got to be shitting me. Blacks get more opportunities in the form of government handouts and affirmative action than any other racial group in the country.

You apologists are running out of excuses but don't want to face up to facts.

I had some properties in downtown Charleston, SC. Transitional neighborhood. A black worker asked me what did white people expect black people to do when the gov gave them housing for 10-17$ a month. A MONTH!

I said, I would take advantage of it, work like hell, get school, even ICDC College schools and get the hell out. He had no idea what the hell I was talking about. Crime became so bad they had to call in state and feds to help clean up. Its still a shithole.

Funny thing is, mexicans/latinos moved in and prospered. People from all over US moved in...and prospered. Many prospered except...

There is no personal responsibility anymore. Sadly evident in American culture now and getting worse.

Major (Tom) · 07-17-2013, 01:22 AM

The problem is simple. Anyone in an impoverished neighborhood needs to stop having kids. Some people think kids give them hope. I disagree. It doesn't take an anthropologist to see the results of over breeding in the hood. It's simple supply & demand. Kids demand money. If the supply isn't there to feed that demand, & the demand is exponentially growing, then there is a fundamental problem with that ideology. This may sound a tad harsh but people should have to meet a specific required criteria in order to get a "breeding pass."
Duke

kane · 07-17-2013, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Getsu

WEST VIRGINIA:

Lowest crime rate in America.
Almost the lowest per capita income.
Population: 95% White, 3.2% Black

You got to be shitting me. Blacks get more opportunities in the form of government handouts and affirmative action than any other racial group in the country.

You apologists are running out of excuses but don't want to face up to facts.

Government handouts are not opportunity. You could make the argument that they actually help to keep the cycle of poverty and crime alive and well.

MrBottomTooth · 07-17-2013, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

The problem is simple. Anyone in an impoverished neighborhood needs to stop having kids. Some people think kids give them hope. I disagree. It doesn't take an anthropologist to see the results of over breeding in the hood. It's simple supply & demand. Kids demand money. If the supply isn't there to feed that demand, & the demand is exponentially growing, then there is a fundamental problem with that ideology. This may sound a tad harsh but people should have to meet a specific required criteria in order to get a "breeding pass."
Duke

I don't know how welfare works in the us but here in canada many poor people see having a kid as a meal ticket. The more kids they have the more money the government gives them. Its not a lot but they still see it as free money and many of them are able to survive on it. Combine that with some of the various tax credits they get for having children and being under a certain income level and its almost crazy how much money they get for free just for spitting out kids.

lock · 07-17-2013, 03:36 AM

Apparently they even rule countries too

kane · 07-17-2013, 04:48 AM

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I don't know how welfare works in the us but here in canada many poor people see having a kid as a meal ticket. The more kids they have the more money the government gives them. Its not a lot but they still see it as free money and many of them are able to survive on it. Combine that with some of the various tax credits they get for having children and being under a certain income level and its almost crazy how much money they get for free just for spitting out kids.

There are some people who make being in the system a career. When I was growing up there was a woman in the town I lived in who had four kids from four different guys. She was proud of being on welfare because she considered herself a full time mom. Her oldest, a daughter, got knocked up at 17 and her mom was so proud she would tell people about how she was getting on welfare. She would talk about it like her daughter just became a doctor or something.

Another example. I overheard two women talking once. One had a small kid and was pregnant. They were talking about her welfare and she said she can't wait for her baby to come because she will be getting a "raise."

shimmy2 · 07-17-2013, 04:52 AM

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So, the huge amount of violent crime attributable to blacks in this country is overwhelmingly committed by an age cohort (13-44) of black men that can't be even 2.5% of the population.

we winning!

tonyparra · 07-17-2013, 05:07 AM

alot of experts on being black on gfy.

Grapesoda · 07-17-2013, 05:29 AM

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The sad thing is that it will not stop until there is a sea change in this country. First, black people and black communities need to realize that they need to band together and help each other instead of using each other. Second, white people need to realize that black people banding together is not something dangerous. They also need to change their general thoughts and actions. The second you either forgive someone for their actions because of their race, or you expect them to act in a certain way because of their race you are contributing to the problem.

the major change will have to come from within the black community from what I see... i.e. earn respect

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-17-2013, 08:25 PM

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According to Justice Department statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

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Don't White People Kill Each Other, Too?

And yet we keep hearing about black-on-black crime because it fits the false media narrative.

When it comes to America's racial past and present, lies and snake oil are sold in many colors.

In the wake of the Trayvon Martin tragedy, conservatives in media have sought to deflect from the racism and racial profiling that precipitated his untimely death by referencing the broader social malaise of supposed "black-on-black violence."

On last week's episode of This Week on ABC, Washington Post columnist George Will said that despite the Trayvon tragedy, "150 black men are killed every week in this country," and "about 94 percent of them by other black men."

Will parroted arguments made by many conservatives, his intended point being that black-on-black crime remains the real problem our nation should address. The half-truth he spoke went curiously unchallenged by the panel -- including former White House adviser Van Jones -- largely because the meta-narrative of black-on-black violence is widely accepted in journalistic and political circles.

Bill O'Reilly, the Fox News host and one-man propaganda machine, recently interviewed Columbia University professor Marc Lamont Hill to discuss similar claims from Wall Street Journal contributor Shelby Steele, who wrote in "The Exploitation of Trayvon Martin" that "black teenagers are afraid of other black teenagers, not whites." O'Reilly vehemently defended Steele's premise that the Trayvon Martin case is an anomaly.

"Blacks today are nine times more likely to be killed by other blacks than by whites," Steele wrote. He went on to attack the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for "exploiting" Trayvon's death in an effort to promote a "liberal" agenda -- a point that O'Reilly was all too happy to expound.

Steele's perspective, though myopic and misguided, remains pervasive and embedded in the broader social consciousness. This red-herring approach is not new, but in the face of Trayvon's death -- for which there remains no arrest, no charges and no arraignment -- these obstructive tactics require an equal and opposite response.

What Will, Steele and O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

In fact, all races share similar ratios. Yet there's no outrage or racialized debate about "white on white" violence. Instead, the myth and associated fear of "black on black" crime is sold as a legitimate, mainstream descriptive and becomes American status quo.

The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1.

Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they'll be raped, assaulted or murdered? Perhaps George Zimmerman's defenders should answer that question. If African Americans were to act as irrationally as Zimmerman did, would any rationale suffice to avoid arrest?

And why is no consideration given to the fact that Trayvon Martin, and millions of black boys and girls like him, harbor a reasonably founded fear of whites but are hardly ever provided the deference and dignity that victimhood affords?

The term "black on black" crime is a destructive, racialized colloquialism that perpetuates an idea that blacks are somehow more prone to violence. This is untrue and fully verifiable by FBI, DOJ and census (pdf) data. Yet the fallacy is so fixed that even African Americans have come to believe it.

In Michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, she explains that the term was coined in the 1980s as American cities underwent transformation as a result of riots, white flight and the onslaught of the drug trade. David Wilson, a professor at the University of Illinois, documents the phenomena in Inventing Black-on-Black Violence. Wilson says that instead of attributing increased crime activity to poverty, inequality and disenfranchisement, the media chose to blame "a supposedly defective, aberrant black culture."

In a 2010 piece published by The Root, "The Myth of Black-on-Black Violence," Natalie Hopkinson opines that journalists should follow the direction of the United Kingdom, where the Guardian newspaper banned the use of the phrase. A Guardian stylebook asked authors to ''imagine the police saying they were investigating an incident of white-on-white violence ... " Hopkinson concludes, "The term 'black-on-black violence' is a slander against the majority of law-abiding black Americans, rich and poor, who get painted by this broad and crude brush."

Trayvon Martin's tragic death reveals the worst ills at play within America's criminal-justice system. Not only was he murdered in large part because of dangerous, persistent stereotypes, but the failure of police to judiciously respond to the crime underscores the inequities that characterize institutionalized racism.

Those who respond to the tragedy by retreating to narratives of black-on-black crime seek to promote it as a defense against an innocent child's violent homicide. This reveals how entrenched the lies have become and how eager too many people are to absolve both Zimmerman's guilt and their own tacit consent.

African-American media and policymakers have been equally complicit in promoting a "black-on-black crime" anecdote, thinking that it could help address some of the community's problems; but what it has actually done is provide support for racial profiling and promote the disproportionate policing of black criminality as "legitimate" and "acceptable." This over-policing has led to disproportionately higher rates of arrests in black communities, reinforcing the idea that blacks commit more crimes.

If we were to talk about "white-on-white crime," then at least we'd be addressing issues like gun violence in a racially neutral way. That doesn't happen because too many Americans remain convinced that black or brown people are the problem. Respected journalists like George Will further perpetuate lies as fact when they make blanket statements that support an ill-conceived narrative.

t seems that the media in general and white American society in particular prefer to focus on crime perpetrated by African Americans because it serves as a way to absolve them from the violence, prejudice and institutionalized discrimination engendered for generations against blacks. It offers a buffer against responsibility, a way to shift blame and deflect cause and effect. But the truth, and numbers, tell a different story.

The myth of black-on-black violence has become a stain on the sociopolitical consciousness and indelibly imbues mindsets as well as public policy. At the heart of an increasingly violent society is not a subculture among blacks but the violence and criminality of many Americans, and whites in particular. No one seems to speak about this. Why? Because the snake oil was duly purchased and consumed. It is time for race-based pseudo-facts to be challenged and dismantled.

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Just Alex · 07-17-2013, 08:55 PM

Black people hate statistics and would rather call it "racism" and blame everyone else for it.

DTK · 07-17-2013, 09:34 PM

In this thread..many bigots who almost certainly don't realize they are bigots.

Not to mention trolls and self-aware bigots.

Captain Kawaii · 07-18-2013, 12:15 AM

America was founded on racism, annihilation and bigotry. Its the American way of life. Of all colors.

Anyone immigrating to Australia?

mineistaken · 07-18-2013, 04:22 AM

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Anyone immigrating to Australia?

Australia is full enough of asian immigrants as it is already... More than you would expect, soon it will be almost like Britain

MrBottomTooth · 07-18-2013, 05:07 AM

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Not sure what your point is. So since they mostly kill each other its ok for them to be 7 times more likely to commit murder than other races?

Trend · 07-18-2013, 06:31 AM

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In Los Angeles, crime rates are in fact lopsided. as part of a Federal Data Collection Program the data shows that blacks committed 41% of all robberies, according to victims' descriptions given to the LAPD, though they constitute only 11% of the city's population.

Robbery victims named whites, who make up 30% of the population, 4% of the time, while Latinos, 46% of the population, were identified as the assailant in 45% of such crimes.

The figures for aggravated assault and rape are similarly skewed.

If we put aside the PC bullshit for a minute .. there is no denying an issue exists.

Based on crime rates the best areas to live in in the USA ( 500k population or better ) are:

1. Nassau County NY ( 73.0% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 11.2% African American )

2. Suffolk County NY ( 80.3% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 7.4% African American )

3. Ventura, CA ( 76.6% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 1.6% African American )

The Worst ....

1. Detroit ( 82.7% African American & 7.8% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

2. Memphis ( 62.6% African American: & 29.5% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

3. Birmingham AL ( 62.46% African American & 35.07% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

It's not racist to evaluate the data and make informed decisions. Would you pick up your family and move to Detroit, Birmingham or Memphis? I sure the hell wouldn't. I keep hearing about "profiling" in the context of it being a terrible thing. I call bullshit. We all use profiling in THIS industry every day.... age, financial, regional, sex etc

Show of hands please.. who is targeting their marketing efforts toward old, poor women from China?

Captain Kawaii · 07-18-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Australia is full enough of asian immigrants as it is already... More than you would expect, soon it will be almost like Britain

I've been seeing news about marketing being directed toward white Brits to make the move to Australia to bring more people in from Britain. If it is true white Brits are leaving England and the Isles in droves because the job market has been so crushed by the douchebag MP's behind the influx of people who hate the British.

In any case I think the economy in the next decade will be fantastic for Australians. I hope so anyway.

Captain Kawaii · 07-18-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Trend

In Los Angeles, crime rates are in fact lopsided. as part of a Federal Data Collection Program the data shows that blacks committed 41% of all robberies, according to victims' descriptions given to the LAPD, though they constitute only 11% of the city's population.

Robbery victims named whites, who make up 30% of the population, 4% of the time, while Latinos, 46% of the population, were identified as the assailant in 45% of such crimes.

The figures for aggravated assault and rape are similarly skewed.

If we put aside the PC bullshit for a minute .. there is no denying an issue exists.

Based on crime rates the best areas to live in in the USA ( 500k population or better ) are:

1. Nassau County NY ( 73.0% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 11.2% African American )

2. Suffolk County NY ( 80.3% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 7.4% African American )

3. Ventura, CA ( 76.6% Non Hispanic Caucasian & 1.6% African American )

The Worst ....

1. Detroit ( 82.7% African American & 7.8% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

2. Memphis ( 62.6% African American: & 29.5% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

3. Birmingham AL ( 62.46% African American & 35.07% Non Hispanic Caucasian )

It's not racist to evaluate the data and make informed decisions. Would you pick up your family and move to Detroit, Birmingham or Memphis? I sure the hell wouldn't. I keep hearing about "profiling" in the context of it being a terrible thing. I call bullshit. We all use profiling in THIS industry every day.... age, financial, regional, sex etc

Show of hands please.. who is targeting their marketing efforts toward old, poor women from China?

You are right on with some ugly stats.

An American scholar said recently that discussing race and racism has now become labeled a racist act. I guess pharma should amp up the control of the population as have the political groups responsible for the labeling/banning of discussion topics. Since the 80's it has been evident that political correctness is just another form of bigotry and oppression. It presents the idea there is no other way to discuss a topic without conforming to the ideology behind the PC movement.

I've never bought into the whitie is oppressing me therefore I commit violent crimes routine. If American blacks wanted true revenge against their "oppressors" they would elevate their numbers who stay in school, work hard and go to college. Real colleges. D.L. Hughely said a major problem is that the back community has a "I got mine" mentality that has crushed their advancement internally.

shimmy2 · 07-20-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I don't doubt that black males are committing a larger than normal (even much larger than normal) amount of crimes. I am simply saying that they are not committing 70% of the crimes. The numbers just don't add up.

here in the DR black females make up the remaining 30%

DatePoster · 07-20-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

alot of experts on being black on gfy.

Creatine · 07-20-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

here in the DR black females make up the remaining 30%

Wow.. now that's a real challenge.

slapass · 07-20-2013, 04:47 PM

Just a heads up for those who don't pay attention. It is changing. Crime is way down and obviously thus black crime is way down. It takes time. 50 years ago we had a totally racist society. Some of those people are still alive. They are the ones with the money as they are old. They will die and we wil get closer to equality. Then the next generation who remembers the gang stuff of the 90's. then so on and so on. It is a process not an overnight thing.

Trend · 07-20-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

here in the DR black females make up the remaining 30%

Jezus! That dude is pretty cute

07-16-2013, 06:34 PM	#63
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	Again, Op said 70% not 75%. Again, not that it matters, just saying. Anyway, lets wait till OP shows up with explanation regarding those 70%. Last edited by mineistaken; 07-16-2013 at 06:35 PM..

07-16-2013, 07:53 PM	#69
Minte Babemeister Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Madison Posts: 7,081	Madison is not the hotbed for racial unrest.. The community has a large minority population that never has issues. The common denominator is education. Every black man and woman that I know has at least a bachelors degree. They have real families, children that have two parents in their lives. __________________ You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

07-17-2013, 01:22 AM	#79
Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,534	The problem is simple. Anyone in an impoverished neighborhood needs to stop having kids. Some people think kids give them hope. I disagree. It doesn't take an anthropologist to see the results of over breeding in the hood. It's simple supply & demand. Kids demand money. If the supply isn't there to feed that demand, & the demand is exponentially growing, then there is a fundamental problem with that ideology. This may sound a tad harsh but people should have to meet a specific required criteria in order to get a "breeding pass." Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

07-17-2013, 03:36 AM	#82
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07-17-2013, 05:07 AM	#85
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07-16-2013, 05:45 PM	#51
24/7 Blogging Crew So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,238	fiddy racists on gfy

07-16-2013, 06:02 PM	#58
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	When I go to dinner I don't care about the color of the owner, chef, bartender, or waitress. When I owned retail stores I hired based on the applicants ability to do the job and make me money, not color. My favorite actors are black. My favorite athletes are black. My favorite musicians are black. My favorite comedians are black. I don't think I'm prejudiced. I don't wake up hating anyone, wishing anyone harm or bad luck. But ???. Why is it when I see black youths walking down the street I view most of them with apprehension? Why is it when other ethnic youths walk down the street I don't? Why have black women decided it's unimportant no one can spell or pronounce their children's names? Why has the current black culture gone out of their way to portray themselves as thugs? Why do black youth dress and act like thugs? Why is being uneducated cool? Why are song lyrics about killing and raping cool? Why does it seem the black culture goes out of the way not to be part of "society"? Why are attitude, gangs, drugs and broken families the accepted norm? Who the hell thought having Al Sharpton represent the black community was a positive thing? Some of us try, we really do. But God Dammit help us out a little! OK? .

07-16-2013, 06:04 PM	#59
davethedope Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 532	So many pornographers concerned with morality. I think this middle-class strivers mentality being demonstrated proves that most people can't appreciate just how rich, rich people are. They have some sense of it, but choose to ignore the stark reality of powerlessness

07-16-2013, 06:43 PM	#65
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	You think of those NYC stats, most likely

07-16-2013, 07:25 PM	#67
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07-17-2013, 01:03 AM	#77
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	Been a lot of analysts, professors and people with advanced degrees, all people of color on the pundit shows last couple days. Most of them are as white as I am intellectually and culturally. They all suggest that racism is restricted to whites only. what I would like to see would be a panel made up of Trayvon's peers, his friends from Miami, the nude girls in the cell pics, you know, people he hung out with. I'd like to hear what they have to say. See his "Crew" and such. His parents and their friends. Fun would be to have a debate between Trayvon's crew and the pundits with Tavis Smiley moderating. You get my points? L-Pink made some solid points earlier about favorite artists and workers vs who we are confronted with on the street. Ditto for me. A prime example today was the LA city hall protest vs last nights Crenshaw protest.

07-17-2013, 08:55 PM	#88
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07-17-2013, 09:34 PM	#89
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	In this thread..many bigots who almost certainly don't realize they are bigots. Not to mention trolls and self-aware bigots. __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky. Last edited by DTK; 07-17-2013 at 09:37 PM..

07-18-2013, 12:15 AM	#90
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	America was founded on racism, annihilation and bigotry. Its the American way of life. Of all colors. Anyone immigrating to Australia?

07-20-2013, 04:47 PM	#99
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Just a heads up for those who don't pay attention. It is changing. Crime is way down and obviously thus black crime is way down. It takes time. 50 years ago we had a totally racist society. Some of those people are still alive. They are the ones with the money as they are old. They will die and we wil get closer to equality. Then the next generation who remembers the gang stuff of the 90's. then so on and so on. It is a process not an overnight thing.