Is pleasure in porn faked?

[duk75]

One can see in almost any video, that the persons are enjoying it a lot. Some times it seems very obvious that the pleasure is being exaggerated. But some other times it is not notorious, and they could either be great actors, or be really going crazy for pleasure.

I have had sex, and it has nothing to do with what I can see in porn, it is so different, that it makes me think all that porn screaming is a very big lie, as the screams are present in every video, it does not matter what the niche is, the girls is yelling, supposedly for the pleasure, but that is hard to believe, specially if you see the same girl in different videos doing very different things, and having the same pleasure. Perhaps they are really actresses.

Why do people want to see something so unreal and so faked? I used to watch those "gang bang" videos where a lot of guys penetrated a girl for hours, and I used to think "oh! that girls should be very happy, that should be a very extreme pleasure!", but then I read the wikipedia article on orgasms, and the studies tend to show that the female orgasm actually comes from the clitoral stimulation, which of every 100 times it is stimulated, 80 times it provokes an orgasm; against the vaginal orgasm, with happens only 2 of every 10 times... Then, what the hell are we watching there? A very dedicated actress that acts for almost an hour, or some adventurous gambler betting a lot of times on the low probabilities, to see if she wins some time...

But we hate to be cheated, so we go and search some more special porn, with a lot on the girl... and we find that damn thing called "squirt", so unreal, we never saw it in life, but in the videos... it seems so real. How can it be? How??!! Ask any girl you know, and if she doesn't kick you, she might tell you she have never had one of those female ejaculations. That does not mean that it does not exist, that only means that it is very hard to have some real reference to actually know how is a real female squirting. Then some uneducated jerks talk on the internet and stupid magazines about some G spot that might provoke the ejaculation... But you search on the internet, and you can clearly see how those girls squirt with the magic wand vibrator, which is dedicated to the clit! Hell, you can even see some girls squirting from oral sex, a very external oral sex. And we want to thinks, for some unknown reason (or, should I say, some non existent reason?) that the ejaculation is the indisputable prove of pleasure ¡Joder! ¡Entonces podría pensar que nunca he provocado uno de esos a alguna chica en mi vida! But the girls say that they do have intense orgasms, just using a finger, only stroking.

What do we need to believe? What do people want? Why do they need to fulfil their pleasure? Go to any of those threesomes videos, which I think should be like a third of the total videos... Millions of views, from complete strangers. Do you think they have had threesomes? Or do you think they ever put a girl on a $2000 USD sybian machine? And how many have been in gang bangs? Yet most want to watch those things, so unreal for them, just weird dreams, that they may not even do if the could.... And they can!

Millions of people are watching those sexual parties videos, yet the society is very boring and moralist, so much that such intense sexual orgies are so unusual that I think half of them have been recorded and published on the internet... They have to plan it, to pay it, to act it, to make it happen. And the people masturbates to that. And the people could live the real thing, but they will not.

Yeah, not everything is faked, porn is not faked, it is not some cartoon, some animation, it is a real recording of something that happened. The orgy happened, the strange liquid came out of her vagina, the two extremely beautiful girls were actually having sex with a lucky guy... But, what might be faked is the pleasure, the pleasure they want us to believe they are having. And we are so stupid that we believe them, even if we have never done something like that, so we don't have idea of how it would be to feel it. But they are yelling, for supposed orgasms, so we ought believe it should feel nice...

What a stupid criterion, according to porn, everything feels great and delicious. Girls can squirt easily. Girls prefer extremely big penises that you have never seen, even at the boys room where all were naked, to non extremely big. Yet we see the maximum pleasure is with a sybian vibrator, 7000 revolutions of pleasure per minute... and most scenes do not even have the penetrating attachment for the sybian, so it is all from the outside...

Porn is confusing, you can not trust porn. So you go to experiment, and you see, a girl, very different to the female fauna of some porn site, and watch her smile, and slightly make some noise, when you touch her slightly. No gang bangs, no sybians, no extreme penises, damn, sometimes not even your own penises. Only caress her all over her body, and tell her you like her, then put your fingers over her genitalia, and enjoy the feeling of her intimate body getting wet... for you.

[LouiseLloyd]

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Paul is that you?!

[Roald]

uhm.......ok?

[Double trouble]

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd

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Paul is that you?!

[FlowerKid]

Mmmmmmmmkay, but who cares if the pleasure is for real?

[mavruda]

[SmutGiant]

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd

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Paul is that you?!

Didn't read first post but damn that was funny!

My answer to OP's thread title: who cares, as long as it sells!

[fitzmulti]

If you think I'm reading all of that, you're crazy.
But to reply to the thread topic...
"WHO GIVES A FUCK? As long as people watching it buy it {as in 'think it is", as well as purchasing it"}, who really cares?

[redhead]

Paul...you've been rumbled.

[redhead]

Also, OP, you have "tickling orgasms" in your sig?

[Zeiss]

2+2=?

[redhead]

Originally Posted by Zealotry

2+2=?

[pinkz]

there is no pleazure in porns

[mikesinner]

No one cares about a woman's pleasure in porn these days. You very rarely see it.

Seems like most are obsessed with ramming their dicks as hard as they can in every hole and slapping or hitting women.

[loreen]

I don't think we can generalize by giving a yes / no answer

[rowan]

Transcript of a typical porn scene:

Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!
Oh yeah!

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by duk75

I have had sex, .

Oh really?

[pornsprite]

I wonder if all of the laughter is real in tickling videos?

[Ringo]

yep that's him

[The Porn Nerd]

Actresses in porn are NOT "having pleasure" - they are being ripped to shreds by giant cocks with drugs inserted into them to keep them hard for hours. The girls need to put ice packs on their pussies after a scene.

No, the sex in porn is "angry", not pleasureable. Just look at both performers faces during a scene and you'll see these people hate each other, and themselves.

[HomerSimpson]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

No one cares about a woman's pleasure in porn these days. You very rarely see it.

Seems like most are obsessed with ramming their dicks as hard as they can in every hole and slapping or hitting women.

yep... women in porn are treated as meat - not like human beings... and it's something that's become a standard... today every girl has to do anal, deepthroat, doublepenetration or is considered not interesting...

[brassmonkey]

if a bitch starts rubbing her clit your not doing it right

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Oh really?

Talk about "reasonable doubt". Wow!

[scubadiver626]

Film yourself approaching orgasm, most people have a relaxed stupid face. Thank god for actresses!

[SmutGiant]

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

yep... women in porn are treated as meat - not like human beings... and it's something that's become a standard... today every girl has to do anal, deepthroat, doublepenetration or is considered not interesting...

Another reason to be pro-censorship. Younger generations are being exposed to this hardcore material and will be desensitized to it.

Content will have to keep getting more and more extreme as the market will eventually demand it.

[Juicy D. Links]

[epitome]

It's just like real life.

Sometimes they're having great sex, sometimes they're not but try to fake it like we do in real life.

I've had models that were totally into one scene partner and not another. It was obvious to me, but not so sure how obvious it would be to the average viewer unless they watched one scene after another.

One model that I'm great friends with... I can instantly tell if he'll be enjoying it or doing his job. If he'll be enjoying it, he'll offer up some awesome suggestions that make for an amazing scene... he really gets into it. If he's not really attracted to his scene partner, he'll just do whatever he's told to do.

But hey, not every artist likes every painting or photo that they take, and sometimes they put more effort into one piece than another.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

Another reason to be pro-censorship. Younger generations are being exposed to this hardcore material and will be desensitized to it.

Content will have to keep getting more and more extreme as the market will eventually demand it.

If you say so.
But personally I'm finding the shit to be a turn off.

I'm not of fan of current porn trends.
I don't surf porn at all.
I will surf a sponsor though.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

Another reason to be pro-censorship. Younger generations are being exposed to this hardcore material and will be desensitized to it.

Content will have to keep getting more and more extreme as the market will eventually demand it.

That's weird, been watching porn for 20 years and still like the tame stuff. Hardcore is a big personal turnoff.

[Danny Deepwood]

Originally Posted by epitome

It's just like real life.

Sometimes they're having great sex, sometimes they're not but try to fake it like we do in real life.

I've had models that were totally into one scene partner and not another. It was obvious to me, but not so sure how obvious it would be to the average viewer unless they watched one scene after another.

One model that I'm great friends with... I can instantly tell if he'll be enjoying it or doing his job. If he'll be enjoying it, he'll offer up some awesome suggestions that make for an amazing scene... he really gets into it. If he's not really attracted to his scene partner, he'll just do whatever he's told to do.

But hey, not every artist likes every painting or photo that they take, and sometimes they put more effort into one piece than another.

So true, the "chemistry" between talent is important and a total luck of the draw. Just like in real life some people just don't mix well. A real professional will still put on a great show, its their job.

There can be other factors as well that screw up a scene, I had a girl start crying for no reason while giving head, this model has done many really hard scenes so it wasn't us, it was something in her personal life, she went away to the bathroom for a while and got her shit together and finished the scene. We didn't make a big deal about it.

Another time the talent had dating history together in their personal life, they didn't know who they were working with but when they both were in the room together you could feel that something was off. The male talent dropped lines while he was fucking her like "is this how the rich old men fuck you?" shit like that, apparently they were dating and she left to go work as a high end escort somewhere and now returned to porn. It was such a strange scene, the female talent put on a bad show, looked like she was going to cry and got the fuck outa there in a hurry.

Point is that just like a day in any job there are good days and bad, good scenes with real pleasure and bad scenes. Luck of the draw.

[Far-L]

The X factor of Homegrown, the thing I am always trying to explain, that is what this hinges on. Real and authentic sexuality, even if it is not loud exaggerated orgasms, and there is no pissing being called "squirting", that is what everyone eventually wants from the visceral experience of watching people having sex. They want to be able to identify with the experience. After the "wow" of the fake stuff wears off, the attraction to real becomes much more emotionally resonant. This is why I always claim all roads lead to Homegrown and think it is a major part of why we have endured.

We still get user submitted real life couples. We also had titles/series/etc. that were shot by the same producers that shoot for everyone else with the same talent you see on every site making the same noise and doing the same damn thing. Our fans know the difference and we are up front about which is which. Our fans complain more about the quality of that reality than they complain about the performers not being hot enough, loud enough, whatever.

[fogfever]

Pornstars are professionally trained actresses.
Every breathe or moan they make is intentional and learned through years of training at Juilliard or another world class school.

[CaptainHowdy]

Some like it faked ...

[Best-In-BC]

If your wife isnt moaning loud your the reason

[Zeiss]

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

If your wife isnt moaning loud your the reason

[_Richard_]

please god tell me you didn't write out 1000 words on what will inevitably be answered by 'could be'

[slapass]

Babe site porn seems to have solved this. The girls look more real and some of the sex looks at least interesting to them.

[Itchy]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if a bitch starts rubbing her clit your not doing it right

[Penny24Seven]

I have some scenes with real orgasms and they sell 10 times more then others. There is a little more to it and also how I go about showing it. By far my top money maker now so keep on beating them with 15 inch cocks and spitting on them haha because everyone doesn't like the same stuff

[Sophie Delancey]

I think it's so important to support the kind of porn that does include real pleasure and less "acting" to counteract the message that gets put forth by more mainstream porn: that you can just fuck your way to the end regardless of how your partner feels. We can enjoy fantasy and acting as well, but it's lovely to include and promote pleasure-based porn.

[oppoten]

I do wish that male actors would start fucking like men instead of fucking like dudes.

"Dude-ness" doesn't really translate too well beyond the US.

[bigluv]

Originally Posted by duk75

One can see in almost any video, that the persons are enjoying it a lot. Some times it seems very obvious that the pleasure is being exaggerated. But some other times it is not notorious, and they could either be great actors, or be really going crazy for pleasure.

I have had sex, and it has nothing to do with what I can see in porn, it is so different, that it makes me think all that porn screaming is a very big lie, as the screams are present in every video, it does not matter what the niche is, the girls is yelling, supposedly for the pleasure, but that is hard to believe, specially if you see the same girl in different videos doing very different things, and having the same pleasure. Perhaps they are really actresses.

Why do people want to see something so unreal and so faked? I used to watch those "gang bang" videos where a lot of guys penetrated a girl for hours, and I used to think "oh! that girls should be very happy, that should be a very extreme pleasure!", but then I read the wikipedia article on orgasms, and the studies tend to show that the female orgasm actually comes from the clitoral stimulation, which of every 100 times it is stimulated, 80 times it provokes an orgasm; against the vaginal orgasm, with happens only 2 of every 10 times... Then, what the hell are we watching there? A very dedicated actress that acts for almost an hour, or some adventurous gambler betting a lot of times on the low probabilities, to see if she wins some time...

But we hate to be cheated, so we go and search some more special porn, with a lot on the girl... and we find that damn thing called "squirt", so unreal, we never saw it in life, but in the videos... it seems so real. How can it be? How??!! Ask any girl you know, and if she doesn't kick you, she might tell you she have never had one of those female ejaculations. That does not mean that it does not exist, that only means that it is very hard to have some real reference to actually know how is a real female squirting. Then some uneducated jerks talk on the internet and stupid magazines about some G spot that might provoke the ejaculation... But you search on the internet, and you can clearly see how those girls squirt with the magic wand vibrator, which is dedicated to the clit! Hell, you can even see some girls squirting from oral sex, a very external oral sex. And we want to thinks, for some unknown reason (or, should I say, some non existent reason?) that the ejaculation is the indisputable prove of pleasure ¡Joder! ¡Entonces podría pensar que nunca he provocado uno de esos a alguna chica en mi vida! But the girls say that they do have intense orgasms, just using a finger, only stroking.

What do we need to believe? What do people want? Why do they need to fulfil their pleasure? Go to any of those threesomes videos, which I think should be like a third of the total videos... Millions of views, from complete strangers. Do you think they have had threesomes? Or do you think they ever put a girl on a $2000 USD sybian machine? And how many have been in gang bangs? Yet most want to watch those things, so unreal for them, just weird dreams, that they may not even do if the could.... And they can!

Millions of people are watching those sexual parties videos, yet the society is very boring and moralist, so much that such intense sexual orgies are so unusual that I think half of them have been recorded and published on the internet... They have to plan it, to pay it, to act it, to make it happen. And the people masturbates to that. And the people could live the real thing, but they will not.

Yeah, not everything is faked, porn is not faked, it is not some cartoon, some animation, it is a real recording of something that happened. The orgy happened, the strange liquid came out of her vagina, the two extremely beautiful girls were actually having sex with a lucky guy... But, what might be faked is the pleasure, the pleasure they want us to believe they are having. And we are so stupid that we believe them, even if we have never done something like that, so we don't have idea of how it would be to feel it. But they are yelling, for supposed orgasms, so we ought believe it should feel nice...

What a stupid criterion, according to porn, everything feels great and delicious. Girls can squirt easily. Girls prefer extremely big penises that you have never seen, even at the boys room where all were naked, to non extremely big. Yet we see the maximum pleasure is with a sybian vibrator, 7000 revolutions of pleasure per minute... and most scenes do not even have the penetrating attachment for the sybian, so it is all from the outside...

Porn is confusing, you can not trust porn. So you go to experiment, and you see, a girl, very different to the female fauna of some porn site, and watch her smile, and slightly make some noise, when you touch her slightly. No gang bangs, no sybians, no extreme penises, damn, sometimes not even your own penises. Only caress her all over her body, and tell her you like her, then put your fingers over her genitalia, and enjoy the feeling of her intimate body getting wet... for you.

Why does this read like some silly amateur third world SEO attempt.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by oppoten

I do wish that male actors would start fucking like men instead of fucking like dudes.

"Dude-ness" doesn't really translate too well beyond the US.

What exactly is the difference?

[marlboroack]

The female orgasm doesn't even exist

[davethedope]

Originally Posted by Far-L

What exactly is the difference?

My guess is that "dudes" fucks for the purpose of validating his dude status.

A man fucks for the sake of fucking, less ego.

It's like Ron Jeremy vs. Nacho Vidal.

That would be my notion of it.

I'd rather watch Ron fuck than Nacho any day.

[JP-pornshooter]

yes, the majority of female porn models enjoy wholeheartedly what they do.
they are sexually supercharged, they love to have sex.
many of them also love "performing aka being in the spot light",
mix the love for sex and the love to show themselves perform and you get a porn scene.
you are correct it is not anything like normal sex. it is supercharged.. compare it to someone singing in the shower compared to watching a live music performance.