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Is this a contest between you and Rochard or something?

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By that exact same token, everyone knows GZ is a wanker who started the whole sequence of events that led to someone's death, but while everyone knows exactly what happened a few minutes prior, that moment the shot was fired, he was in fear of his life. Or to put it more accurately, it cannot be proved he was not in fear of his life.

Seems you're all for prior events having nothing to do with the event in hand (in this case the moment the shot was fired), and all for the law applying (in this case whether he, rightly or wrongly, genuinely *believed* his life to be in danger) regardless, except when it doesn't suit your personal feelings on the matter.

Reminds me of the case a few years back when a teacher was found guilty after hitting some gang twat - yes the guy deserved it, but you just can't do that under the eyes of the law. Yes, GZ is a dick and his actions cost someone their life that night, but in the eyes of the law the only correct outcome was not guilty. It sucks, but then so does the law most of the time, so no surprises there.

You'd have far better luck getting agreement asking if you think GZ's actions led to a man dying, rather than whether he is guilty of murder. There's a distinction between the two.

I was born and raised in central Fla.

When I was in High School in Bartow, Fla black teens would wait in the hallway and bully you if you were a white kid. And if you even looked at them in the eye, they would jump you and beat the crap out of you.

I walked home from school every day. And over half the time there would be a gang of black teenage boys jumping white teen boys.

The reason? Because we were white. No other reason. I'm not making this up. And anyone else who was in high school in Fla. during that time would back up what I'm saying.

THAT was pure racism. I was just a kid without a racist bone in my body. But those young blacks were full of hate and loved to fight (as a group of course, none of them had the balls to fight by themselves).

Richard, when you have your ass beat by a dozen black guys...it can change your perspective on racism.

Much to my pleasant surprise...once I was out of high school I found that the same black guys who were such asshole racists in school had changed and were cool people as grownups.

I lived as an adult in Florida from 1979 to 1988. Played in bands with black musicians (lived with them, traveled on the road). Fucked a lot of black girls. Tag teamed a lot of white women with my black friends.

In 1988 I moved to South Carolina. I thought that it would be THE most racist place ever...I was wrong. If anything it was less than it was in Miami (where I had been living for the past couple of years before moving to SC)

Then in 1990 I moved to Atlanta, Ga.
I don't know the population percentages there. But I felt like a minority. Everywhere I went...clubs, restaurants, movies, etc. was mostly black folks. No problems.

Moved back up into S.C. in 1993 and some of my best friends were black guys. And in interactions between folks in everyday life you just didn't see or hear of any racist type things happening. People just get along there.

Then I went up into New York City in 1997 for a couple of weeks shooting content.
Holy fucking shit.
I've never seen such racism in my life! Every racial and ethnic group in NYC seems to hate each other.

I was shooting some stuff out on the streets and the guy who lived there that was showing me around wouldn't let me walk down certain neighborhoods because he flat told me that the blacks living there would kill me just for being white.

My point in this long-winded story is: You think you know what you're talking about. You read stuff and think it's true. "Oh the South is racist"
Try going to the Northern cities in the U.S. if you want racism. NYC, Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit...THOSE are some racist cities where racially profiled crime happens every day.

But since it's mostly blacks committing those crimes, our society doesn't label it as "racist"
Nope. It HAS to be a "white" guy (and now it's obvious that a hispanic will do if no white guy is available) "profiling" a black guy and then we have a worldwide sensationalized case.

Meanwhile, as we sit here debating this, several young black men are slaughtering several other black men in Chicago.

And if you want to see some "racism", then just be a white person and TRY to walk down one of those streets. No, not at night. Not with a hoodie on. Not walking up on people's property...Just TRY to walk down one of those streets in Chicago in broad daylight on the sidewalk.

You won't make it one city block.
THAT my friend is racism.

i grew up in vancouver as a poor white kid

i know exactly what racism, and more importantly, discrimination, is.

Yeah, we've all heard how horrible Canada is.

Thanks for sharing your pain as a middle class white guy raised in the beautiful city of Vancouver.

pain? id call it growth

for all parties.

Came up on the mean streets of Vancouver, eh? Did those Asian kids kick your ass at math?

Stop your fucking lying; I thought the Marines trained you better than that. :2 cents:

One glance at Google can convince anyone of that.

He is pretty fucking ignorant, that is for sure.

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I was extremely poor as a kid. I didn't have a job or any money at all.

Thank God my parents did though! :1orglaugh

never did, no.

you were in the marines? what right do you have to speak to a marine that way?

yes, i know the type

This is what I don't get; Nothing adds up. Why did Zimmerman need to get out of the car to look at a street name for the complex he had lived in for years? There was only three freaking streets. How can you be on the neighborhood watch for years and not know all three streets?

Not lying. Zimmerman told 911 that Martin was running, and then Zimmerman gets out of the car to "figure out the street name" of one of the three streets in the complex he's lived in for years....

He is a civilian he OUT RANKS YOU.

you are aware of my citizenship?

im a little surprised at your assumption.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie?s=t&path=/

Your intentional distortion of the facts over and over again makes it a lie. :2 cents:

Your thread title is a lie, no ifs ands or buts

My dog outranks him.

all sorts of special.

Oldman, you keep accusing me of lieing or not looking the evidence.

Did Martin run or not? Zimmerman says it on the 911 tape.

Did Zimmerman get out of the car or not? He did.

No lies. That's fact. That's evidence.

It is NOT LEGAL to kill children that enjoy Skittles. Blatant fucking lie and you know it. :2 cents:

So if Zimmerman stalked and killed the kid how did he get blood on the back of his head?

EDIT : What he did and how it worked out is legal. The bad thing is it was all stupid. Neither one of them knew how to keep out of a major confrontation.

this pretty much sums it up.
sad thing though, too bad he couldnt have just used a tazer.

Zimmerman was NOT Stalking. Following him....

I think you already know but this was part of his telling dispatch that he was trying to get an address for the street he couldn't remember the name of.. by going down the sidewalk between the backs of houses where addresses are never placed.. Kind of flimsy BS. This was part of him claiming to NOT be "following, but going the same direction" as TM. Cops didn't buy it and told him "that's following" on more than one occasion on their reenactment videos AND interrogation room video interview.

Also in the interrogation video he "explains" his not knowing the streets by saying he has a really bad memory. It's on the record believe it or not.

He hung onto that story of being smothered pretty long. His friend even put it into his book saying that GZ told him that TM was "leaning all his weight down onto him". Yet there was no blood of GZ's on the palms of TM's hands. Oops. Oh well, no biggie.

I think he got away with murder here and in all likelihood TM was getting up off him when the shot was fired (which would be how GZ could unholster his weapon from behind and underneath him and allow him to hold his arm straight for firing.) But the jury has spoken so time to move on.

The blood was from two abrasions which were treated with a total of 2 bandaids. He did not want or require stitches and they were not lacerations but abrasions. The kind you would get if you laid down on a sidewalk and while applying pressure, rubbed your head back and forth. Think "skinned knee" and you've got it.

again guys.. it's legal to follow... some call it following others call it "observing"

Rochard I am so shocked as a marine your acting this way do you not remember anything from grunt school? JDLR, Observe, Stalk, Kill....

this is not a "child" issue... cause I tell you this right now.. I know 15 year old kids that would beat the living shit out of everyone grown man on this board myself included.... hell my son is 9 and has been training since he could walk I bet he could kick someones ass.. and for sure he knows how to kill someone with his barehanded ...

in what world is it OK in your eyes that someone should just stand back and get beat to death....

look someone was getting beat and we know from evidence that it was zimmerman.... again... if my own son was beating you and you truly felt you were in fear of your life rochard you have every right to defend yourself with deadly force....

im ashamed to call you a brother you have forgotten everything you ever learned in grunt

dood he had busted orbitals .... you dont need stitches for orbitals and yes it can kill you .... jesus... oh so now it's only an injury if there are cuts? Ha this is becoming more and more of a comedy show

What the fuck kind of bullshit story is that? He couldn't remember the name of one of the three streets in his neighborhood? I mean, really - This was the ONE STREET had had to pass DAILY to leave the complex. How can he not know it?

Going in the same direction is in fact following.

If Martin was on top of him, he was being smoothered, and his head was being based into the pavement... How was he able to get his gun out from under him? Bullshit.

I always just ignored this thinking it was raining and the blood got washed off. But if it was raining and the blood got washed off... Why did Zimmerman have blood on him? Why did Zimmerman have blood on him but not Martin?

None of this shit adds up.

He had busted orbitals? Maybe I missed some of the medical expert testimony? By the way, I'm not really on someone's side here. But if he had broken orbitals then that should have shown up in the trial or in a medical report.

George only went to the doctor the day after because he needed a note to prove why he was out of work. He declined all treatment including psychological which was recommended because he had been in a traumatic situation. He's almost dead.......... but has no problems.. almost dead........... no problems... fucking superman.

Bullshit

Gravity

Who said he was almost dead?

So you mean to tell me that Zimmerman getting out of his car to look at a street name he should have known by heart and heading in the same exact direction Martin took isn't following him?

If two cars head down the street in the same direction, one is in fact following the other.

You guys are all so deferent & PC with Rochard because he's a retired Marine.

I'm in VA Beach today with active & retired Navy & Marines. Over lunch they asked what I was laughing about so I showed them this thread.

They agree .. glad this embarrassment is retired.

you missed the medical examiner testifying about it? and saying how the EMT pushed it back in... 9/10 when you have a badly broken nose you have busted orbitals.. which is why in fights we tell our fighters to NOT blow nose in between rounds.. thats where black eyes come from....

he's not a retired marine... he's a former marine you have to put in 20+ to be retired....

I think I could be wrong.. but I think we were talking about it at a show one year where we both went and I think he did 4 years.. I could be wrong...

He did. In his mind he was near death, but then he was fine an hour later and declined even to see an eye ear nose and throat doctor or a psychologist which were both recommended.

He didn't have a broken nose. The testimony was that maybe he, the emt, or someone else who swabbed his face inadvertently pushed his nose back into place. There were no actual breaks or fractures anywhere. Why are you debating what is in evidence in a case that's already over?

wow... :1orglaugh:

Your interpretation of the facts is pretty amusing; but as you said, no reason to argue about a case that has been resolved.

I learn something new with most of Rochard's posts.

Does anyone have contact with Rochard's wife, hot young girlfriend or neighbor in his perfect little town to do a quick check on him?

I'm imagining him sitting on the floor in a trash strewn home office in dirty underwear, laptop propped up on old Domino's pizza boxes, typing like a squirrel on meth, wacking off to Zimmerman arrest videos while his truck is parked on the curb out front with a Marine Corps sword stuck thru a hispanic looking mannequin in the front lawn.

Get back to us and tell me if I'm off on the pizza brand.

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He was punched in the face - maybe twice - and yet somehow managed to pull out a firearm from behind him while Martin was on top of him getting the beat down of a lifetime... You know, the same smack down that didn't so much as require a doctor.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stalking


Just sayin....

Okay that got me laughing. :1orglaugh

Very well said. Black on white is nothing important, but if white on black - thats major news and all white guilt media pumps up the story. Fucking traitors.

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I can't believe you guys are still falling for Rochard's troll. He's probably sitting behind his computer pissing himself laughing at you. Noone can be that dense. Or, some of you are in cahoots with him.

Close to 2500 views. Pretty good thread for the OP other than some people looking in will never do business with Ynot again.

Exactly :warning

And there are no white neighborhoods where black man would face similar level of racism or threat.

So who is more racist? Obviously blacks and thats a fact. If you disagree you are stupid. If you are white and disagree - you are disgusting traitor cunt.

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