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detoxed · 02-26-2003, 09:22 PM

I had a friend email me today all worried. SHE apparently bought something on Ebay. The person was selling a item.. or so it appeared.

They had a buy it now about 80% of the retail value of the item.
In ONE sentence, the seller put "Bid now for your picture of "X" item"

The seller was actually selling a picture of the item the buyer thought she was buying, not the actual item. This was very stupid of her for not reading carefully, but this guy has gotten thousands of dollars from people just like her by tricking them.

Is there any legal action she can take to get money back? Would she lose in court?

asuna · 02-26-2003, 09:24 PM

If itsin fine print.. maybe...
Whats the object? and how much?

Like people who sell 'info', 44" HDTV for 6.99, its info, don't think for 149.99 your getting a TV, ur gettting fucking info, and your getting ripped for it

NoCarrier · 02-26-2003, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
I had a friend email me today all worried. SHE apparently bought something on Ebay. The person was selling a item.. or so it appeared.

They had a buy it now about 80% of the retail value of the item.
In ONE sentence, the seller put "Bid now for your picture of "X" item"

The seller was actually selling a picture of the item the buyer thought she was buying, not the actual item. This was very stupid of her for not reading carefully, but this guy has gotten thousands of dollars from people just like her by tricking them.

Is there any legal action she can take to get money back? Would she lose in court?

Can you post the eBay link?

Pipecrew · 02-26-2003, 09:33 PM

its all pyramid schemes

Dveron · 02-26-2003, 09:33 PM

Well your friend is not too bright. How did she pay for the auction? If it was via a credit card she may be able to charge back.

It depends I guess on how the auction is worded and if it was deceptive.

OneHungLo · 02-26-2003, 09:38 PM

"There's a sucker born every minute."
~P. T. Barnum

detoxed · 02-26-2003, 09:40 PM

Well an example, I saw someone else doing it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=29136321 56

Except in the auction she won, there was 1 sentence saying pictures, not 2. It was for 80% of retail price of the item, not $6.99 for info.

detoxed · 02-26-2003, 09:42 PM

I know she is a dumbass for falling for this. I'm just trying to find out if she can do anything about it, legally, not credit card wise, she'll get her money back. $800 range.

psyko514 · 02-27-2003, 01:53 AM

technically, there's nothing she can do. if the auction text stated what it was (just pictures) and she paid nontheless, too bad for her. she has no legal recourse as she paid for what was advertised.

best case scenario, she can complain to ebay, who will cancel this person's account and freeze the funds in his paypal account (if any).

if she paid by credit card thru paypal, she will not be able to charge it back successfully from her bank.

BigFish · 02-27-2003, 01:58 AM

Caveat Emptor - "let the buyer beware" is what the courts will say.

psyko514 · 02-27-2003, 02:00 AM

what's her email address? i wanna sell her the concept of some good legal advice.

lightswitch · 02-27-2003, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
I had a friend email me today all worried. SHE apparently bought something on Ebay. The person was selling a item.. or so it appeared.

They had a buy it now about 80% of the retail value of the item.
In ONE sentence, the seller put "Bid now for your picture of "X" item"

The seller was actually selling a picture of the item the buyer thought she was buying, not the actual item. This was very stupid of her for not reading carefully, but this guy has gotten thousands of dollars from people just like her by tricking them.

Is there any legal action she can take to get money back? Would she lose in court?

Yeah there is something she can do, she can learn a lesson!
also FBI internet crimes divison has a web page were you can file reports. But its jsut a paperwork fuck off, not really worth the tiem but who knows. could also do a little investagation on where this person is located, pay a visit, fucken scamer! scamer must die!

jact · 02-27-2003, 02:14 AM

Crazy. I guess when you think you're getting a deal, you should think about what you're really getting.

detoxed · 02-27-2003, 02:19 AM

She already has her money back, she just wants this guy in jail. I guess its not gonna happen.

jact · 02-27-2003, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
She already has her money back, she just wants this guy in jail. I guess its not gonna happen.

Then no harm no foul. If they put picture(s) they weren't misrepresenting themselves... Lesson learned.

detoxed · 02-27-2003, 02:27 AM

Yeah, it just sucks, there are a lot of people sending this guy money orders, etc.

He is probably using a hacked account because his feedback was 100+ positives with no negative.

Just a warning to everyone, be careful on Ebay.

Schwick · 02-27-2003, 03:46 AM

**note to self: Read entire thread before posting.**

Amputate Your Head · 02-27-2003, 03:51 AM

find his sister and fuck her

Morgan · 02-27-2003, 04:41 AM

Kick is... The seller's name was: Don Lapre

02-26-2003, 09:22 PM	#1
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	legal advice.. ebay scam... need some input I had a friend email me today all worried. SHE apparently bought something on Ebay. The person was selling a item.. or so it appeared. They had a buy it now about 80% of the retail value of the item. In ONE sentence, the seller put "Bid now for your picture of "X" item" The seller was actually selling a picture of the item the buyer thought she was buying, not the actual item. This was very stupid of her for not reading carefully, but this guy has gotten thousands of dollars from people just like her by tricking them. Is there any legal action she can take to get money back? Would she lose in court?

02-26-2003, 09:24 PM	#2
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	If itsin fine print.. maybe... Whats the object? and how much? Like people who sell 'info', 44" HDTV for 6.99, its info, don't think for 149.99 your getting a TV, ur gettting fucking info, and your getting ripped for it __________________

02-26-2003, 09:33 PM	#5
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	Well your friend is not too bright. How did she pay for the auction? If it was via a credit card she may be able to charge back. It depends I guess on how the auction is worded and if it was deceptive. __________________ Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.

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02-26-2003, 09:33 PM	#4
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	its all pyramid schemes

02-26-2003, 09:38 PM	#6
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	"There's a sucker born every minute." ~P. T. Barnum

02-26-2003, 09:40 PM	#7
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Well an example, I saw someone else doing it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=29136321 56 Except in the auction she won, there was 1 sentence saying pictures, not 2. It was for 80% of retail price of the item, not $6.99 for info.

02-26-2003, 09:42 PM	#8
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	I know she is a dumbass for falling for this. I'm just trying to find out if she can do anything about it, legally, not credit card wise, she'll get her money back. $800 range.

02-27-2003, 01:58 AM	#10
BigFish Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,159	Caveat Emptor - "let the buyer beware" is what the courts will say.

02-27-2003, 02:14 AM	#13
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Crazy. I guess when you think you're getting a deal, you should think about what you're really getting. __________________ Free agent

02-27-2003, 02:19 AM	#14
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	She already has her money back, she just wants this guy in jail. I guess its not gonna happen.

02-27-2003, 02:27 AM	#16
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Yeah, it just sucks, there are a lot of people sending this guy money orders, etc. He is probably using a hacked account because his feedback was 100+ positives with no negative. Just a warning to everyone, be careful on Ebay.

02-27-2003, 03:46 AM	#17
Schwick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Right here, right now. Posts: 543	note to self: Read entire thread before posting.

02-27-2003, 03:51 AM	#18
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02-27-2003, 04:41 AM	#19
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	Kick is... The seller's name was: Don Lapre __________________ PornstarPlatinum.com \| TransErotica.com