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  • AJ_NETWORK
    Confirmed User
    • May 2011
    • 483

    #1

    Is bitcoin dying?

    Fuck! I just checked mtgox and bitcoin is at $70 now, I know this doesn't matter for anybody except people who already have or are waiting on a heavy duty miner, but in order for this to continue to be viable, the value has to go up along with the difficulty rate, otherwise mining loses its power every day.

    I'm also infuriated by these con-artists who call themselves "butterfly labs" and have kept people waiting for over a year for their mining units, including me. I pre-ordered their shitty little jalapeno at the beginning of the year, and at the time it was calculated to mine $50-$60 worth of btc per day, but even if I got it now, it would make me $7.50 per day, so by the time I get it, it'll probably be closer to $2.00 per day, which is a nice jr bacon cheeseburger every day, but it ain't no fucking $60 that I was hoping for.

    What do you guys think? is bitcoin just in a slump? or is it circling the drain?
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  • _Richard_
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2006
    • 30991

    #2
    Originally posted by AJ_NETWORK
    Fuck! I just checked mtgox and bitcoin is at $70 now, I know this doesn't matter for anybody except people who already have or are waiting on a heavy duty miner, but in order for this to continue to be viable, the value has to go up along with the difficulty rate, otherwise mining loses its power every day.

    I'm also infuriated by these con-artists who call themselves "butterfly labs" and have kept people waiting for over a year for their mining units, including me. I pre-ordered their shitty little jalapeno at the beginning of the year, and at the time it was calculated to mine $50-$60 worth of btc per day, but even if I got it now, it would make me $7.50 per day, so by the time I get it, it'll probably be closer to $2.00 per day, which is a nice jr bacon cheeseburger every day, but it ain't no fucking $60 that I was hoping for.

    What do you guys think? is bitcoin just in a slump? or is it circling the drain?
    ltc is up

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    • AJ_NETWORK
      Confirmed User
      • May 2011
      • 483

      #3
      if i ever get my jalapeno do you think i could mine litecoin with it?
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      • _Richard_
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2006
        • 30991

        #4
        Originally posted by AJ_NETWORK
        if i ever get my jalapeno do you think i could mine litecoin with it?
        if you're asking on the internet, good chance there is a few others who have asked, discussed, and concluded..

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        • Paul
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2002
          • 2637

          #5
          Originally posted by AJ_NETWORK
          if i ever get my jalapeno do you think i could mine litecoin with it?
          You can't, ASICs are specifically designed to mine Bitcoin. Litecoin uses a different encryption.

          Bitcoin = SHA-256
          Litecoin = Scrypt

          Also LTC isn't up, it's down in price just like Bitcoin.

          LTC is down from $2.7 to $2.4 today currently as I write this

          Money is draining out of Bitcoin as people cash out their positions, MtGox lifted their 2 week freeze on US dollar withdrawals and people are cashing out and the flow of new money is nowhere near enough to keep prices stable so the price continues to fall.

          The only thing keeping LTC from dropping below $1 is the continued speculation that Mt Gox will start trading LTC which is never ever going to happen. First it was April, May, June, July, of coarse it'll be this month

          Supply & Demand in fully effect

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          • _Richard_
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2006
            • 30991

            #6
            Originally posted by Paul
            You can't, ASICs are specifically designed to mine Bitcoin. Litecoin uses a different encryption.

            Bitcoin = SHA-256
            Litecoin = Scrypt

            Also LTC isn't up, it's down in price just like Bitcoin.

            LTC is down from $2.7 to $2.4 today currently as I write this

            Money is draining out of Bitcoin as people cash out their positions, MtGox lifted their 2 week freeze on US dollar withdrawals and people are cashing out and the flow of new money is nowhere near enough to keep prices stable so the price continues to fall.

            The only thing keeping LTC from dropping below $1 is the continued speculation that Mt Gox will start trading LTC which is never ever going to happen. First it was April, May, June, July, of coarse it'll be this month

            Supply & Demand in fully effect
            and it's up as i write this.. but thanks for the info

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            • PromoterX
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2010
              • 949

              #7
              Quick everyone panic and cash out now! I`m looking to buy in around $40-50...

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              • Webmaster Advertising
                So Fucking Banned
                • Sep 2003
                • 1360

                #8
                Originally posted by PromoterX
                Quick everyone panic and cash out now! I`m looking to buy in around $40-50...
                We cashed out a few days back,, waiting on prices to drop a little more then we'll scoop up a hundred or so BTC

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                • RandyRandy
                  Clips still sell!
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1708

                  #9
                  BitInstant hasn't processed for the past 3 days - that should tell you something.

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                  • nexcom28
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 3716

                    #10
                    Look, the price is simply getting back to its true value. It's stabilising..
                    When it went crazy a few months ago the people that bought into the frenzy created a bubble, of course this was unrealistic.
                    Eventually the tide will change and the value will start to increase again, slowly at first but gain momentum as the
                    Mining difficulty increases.
                    If this creates another bubble we will have he same again.

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                    • halfpint
                      GFY's Halfpint
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 15223

                      #11
                      I think it will come down a lot more and then eventually become more stable but I think it is far from dying

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                      • dave90210
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1745

                        #12
                        Can you short Bitcoin on the stock market?

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                        • Supz
                          Arthur Flegenheimer
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 11057

                          #13
                          lol haahahahh lol ahahahah lol ahahahah

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                          • sarettah
                            see you later, I'm gone
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 14327

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AJ_NETWORK
                            I'm also infuriated by these con-artists who call themselves "butterfly labs" and have kept people waiting for over a year for their mining units, including me. I pre-ordered their shitty little jalapeno at the beginning of the year, and at the time it was calculated to mine $50-$60 worth of btc per day, but even if I got it now, it would make me $7.50 per day, so by the time I get it, it'll probably be closer to $2.00 per day, which is a nice jr bacon cheeseburger every day, but it ain't no fucking $60 that I was hoping for.
                            Apparently they are local to me, I had not realized that.



                            Just saw a post on coindesk that says they have just shipped all orders through July 2012. So, they are only a year backlogged now. So, let's see, you ordered at the beginning of this year so maybe you will see it by December

                            http://www.coindesk.com/butterfly-la...lapeno-orders/

                            Finally, after more than a year of waiting, those who preordered the 5GH/s Jalapeno ASIC Bitcoin miner from Butterfly Labs should start receiving their orders. Butterfly Labs announced today that nearly every Jalapeno order through July 3rd 2012 has been shipped out. They have promised that every backlogged order will be shipped within the next 90 days and this morning they posted a picture up of over 100 units that were on their way out the door.

                            Butterfly Labs has been the source of much excitement and almost equal scorn since they started taking orders for their much anticipated ASIC miners last year. Initially they told people that their orders would start shipping in a matter of three months, and preorders flooded in. Over a year later almost no one had received anything. To make matters worse, Butterfly Labs seemed to continually make shallow excuses as to why they weren?t able to ship, that is if they were responding to customers at all.

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                            • Bman
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1679

                              #15
                              hate to tell you its summer all the money traders are on Vaca.

                              it will slump to around $50 to $55.
                              settle around there.
                              After September it will go back up to around $70 hit around $80 in December.
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                              • ilnjscb
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 8974

                                #16
                                Yeah - what is the value if MTG has so much of the traffic. As always be the middleman, not the owner.

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                                • Zuzana Designs
                                  All Your Design Needs
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 20900

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PromoterX
                                  Quick everyone panic and cash out now! I`m looking to buy in around $40-50...
                                  That's what I'm hoping to do. Buy when it gets low.

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                                  • woj
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 47882

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AJ_NETWORK
                                    Fuck! I just checked mtgox and bitcoin is at $70 now, I know this doesn't matter for anybody except people who already have or are waiting on a heavy duty miner, but in order for this to continue to be viable, the value has to go up along with the difficulty rate, otherwise mining loses its power every day.

                                    I'm also infuriated by these con-artists who call themselves "butterfly labs" and have kept people waiting for over a year for their mining units, including me. I pre-ordered their shitty little jalapeno at the beginning of the year, and at the time it was calculated to mine $50-$60 worth of btc per day, but even if I got it now, it would make me $7.50 per day, so by the time I get it, it'll probably be closer to $2.00 per day, which is a nice jr bacon cheeseburger every day, but it ain't no fucking $60 that I was hoping for.

                                    What do you guys think? is bitcoin just in a slump? or is it circling the drain?
                                    your best bet is to unload the pre-order on ebay or somewhere else, it's unlikely you will get your investment back if you wait for it, even if you got the miner right now you would pretty much come out even...
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                                    • Zeiss
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2012
                                      • 5189

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AJ_NETWORK
                                      the value has to go up along with the difficulty rate, otherwise mining loses its power every day
                                      So, you tell me that, if nobody wants tomatoes, but they are hard to grow, they should be expensive?


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                                      • lyno
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2003
                                        • 474

                                        #20
                                        Terracoin is rising

                                        Was interesting to watch how miners shifted from BTC to TRC on coinotron. Their BTC pool is at 32.0 GH now, TRC at 407 GH. Due to the new TRC diff adjustment profitability of TRC jumps between 0.6 and 3.7 what led to a lot of pool jumping till coino switched to PPLNS.

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                                        • Webmaster Advertising
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 1360

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Zealotry
                                          So, you tell me that, if nobody wants tomatoes, but they are hard to grow, they should be expensive?
                                          If very few people want tomatoes and they are hard to grow yes, the price will increase.

                                          Supply and demand.

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                                          • Zeiss
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2012
                                            • 5189

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Webmaster Advertising
                                            If very few people want tomatoes and they are hard to grow yes, the price will increase.

                                            Supply and demand.
                                            You should write a book on market economy. Make sure you include the tomatoes in it.


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                                            • PhoneSexKing
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2013
                                              • 190

                                              #23
                                              is bitcoin dying?

                                              Yes.

                                              Sell them all to me. See sig.

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                                              • brassmonkey
                                                Pay It Forward
                                                • Sep 2005
                                                • 77397

                                                #24
                                                it has to level off
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                                                • Webmaster Advertising
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 1360

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Zealotry
                                                  You should write a book on market economy. Make sure you include the tomatoes in it.
                                                  Already have one on swing trading that does quite well, thanks for the suggestion though

                                                  Also have one on BitCoin mining which is selling 'ok'

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                                                  • adultmobile
                                                    No, I am not banned
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 5345

                                                    #26
                                                    this thread needs realtime btc price image too


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                                                    • mozadek
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                      • 1325

                                                      #27
                                                      Now is the perfect time to invest in bitcoins, buy low, sell high.

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                                                      • AJ_NETWORK
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2011
                                                        • 483

                                                        #28
                                                        oh ok so since there is a logical reason why it's tanking, then there's a logical reason why it will come back. either way the guy who said i should probably just throw my jalapeno pre-order on ebay is probably right about making more money that way, I might just do that and get a grand for it and make more then it would ever make mining, I just won't tell that to the idiot who will pay $1000 for it!
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                                                        • brassmonkey
                                                          Pay It Forward
                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                          • 77397

                                                          #29
                                                          did you think gold would stay at $1500? take a biz class
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