You did not see all that was going on. There was a hostage situation, the cops were trying to protect the public. Asked him to leave, he goes to his car, rolls all the windows down and starts blasting his music. Then he comes out and starts harassing the cops almost as if he is trying to incite others. It had nothing to do with him filming them, that was the last thing he did. He was interfering with their ability to do their job because they had to have a couple cops dedicated to monitoring that douche.

It is his fault and his fault alone that his dog was shot and I would tell him to his face. No one can suggest I am not a dog lover so it can't be that. When I heard about this video I did not want to watch but I had to; I was blown away at how dumb the owner was.

Where did I say or wrote that I never been in the states ???

Maybe they better uncuffed the guy and asked if he could put his dog back in the car?
Remember they have a gun ... why would the guy not do that? They can handcuff him again later if that is what they want to do.

Sorry but I still disagree with how they handled the situation.

To much "rambo" and "robocop" attitude in this action. They could have handled it different.

Someone suggested that earlier, but it would be stupid and extremely dangerous for a cop to uncuff someone so they can walk back to their car.

Extremely dangerous? C'mon .. I see 4 cops there all with a gun lol.

dont fuck with police.

if i were to say, you were arguing with an exbiker, who really should despise cops in some form..

would you believe me?

Yeah, a dangerous hostage situation. OMFG!

http://ahab.com/images/jack/con.jpg

A biker, my ass.

Sure, I know baddog on this board from day one (Lensmans times)

I did have a gfy account from day one, but at some point I lost password and started a new one cause the email address was on a expired domain. It was easyer to start a new account.

There was a time Lensman blocked IP's from half europe LOL :1orglaugh

Nevermind.

I do not know where you live, but you want me to think that after you have been placed in cuffs, the cops would take the cuffs off so you can walk back to your car; that they would just keep their guns trained on you?

You know that does not happen anywhere; nor should it.

man 99% of the police in cali are dipping in something illegal :2 cents:

:1orglaugh that i believe

You wrote you have few friends in the US, not that you've been in the US. So question is have you ever been in the US?

I see you giving suggesting to police what would be better for them to do...who are you? You judging from your point of view, but you don't know all the facts. Why do you think black dude didn't do anything? Because you didn't see it?

How do you know what this "crazy Americans" caring under their shirts? Watch your bad police videos for few examples. Or read about cops killed while regular traffic stop. Your advices to cops are pathetic...First secure with handcuffs, then talk. He was detained, not arrested, not thrown in jail or prison. Looks like they just tried to take him away for no obeying orders(I don't know, just guessing).

they should have frisked that doggie and read him his miranda

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Fuc...08_4025256.png

Typiclly how it goes in the states.




You only get handcuffed here if you already are in prison (and they have to transport the prisoner to the court and back) ... or when you are arested for a "REAL CRIME" ...

No handcuffs here for small crimes .. NEVER.

If I fight with someone on the streets and cops are comming -> No handcuffs
If I punch you in the face and cops are comming -> No handcuffs
When I drive my car while I'm drunk and cops stop the car -> No handcuffs (NEVER)

and so on ...

Here cops only use handcuffs when someone commited a REAL HEAVY crime.

Handcuffs for a dude filming some cops action with his cellphone? C'mon lol ... What a fucking joke.

Just my opinion, :winkwink:


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Don't obey police orders and get handcuffed, taser-gunned or pepper-sprayed in any all above situations. Why are you keep skipping possible situations?

Don't obey police orders -> No handcuffs here ...
They give you a ticket here (that you have to come to court) if you don't obey police orders (thats about it). In court they will give you like 2 weeks on probation or a fine to pay (if it is your 3th time lol)

The risk of getting a ticket is enough already to make people do what cops say ... they don't need to handcuff you here and drop you on the ground.

O btw we also don't know "Bounty Hunters" ...

We only know that shit from Far West Movies lol

Really? OK, next time you visit the USA don't stop for traffic stop, keep riding your rental car, don't obey red and blue lights behind you. Then let us know outcome.

It was police operation and guy was annoying. Just like you.

Do they let people out on bail? What happens if the person does not show up?

It was a standoff between police and armed robbers. Apparently that only happens in the US because other countries just wait for the robbers to return the money or turn themselves in.

That is the way much of the world operates too (handcuffs used when they are needed). However, most Americans accept such behavior has normal and necessary. He was a heckler, not a threat. But US police don't usually see a difference between the two. Everyone is a threat to those who are abusive and fear losing control.

Oh man, you're in for a treat.

they'll handcuff you here in vancouver for looking at them funny

drug dealer? free pass.

apparently laws only apply to people who care about records

everyone else it's a free for all

Cops don't think in the same terms as most of you armchair critics sitting out there in publicland viewing them on youtube and calling their every move into question like you know better how to handle a situation. Yes the guy was a heckler, but all it takes is one douchebag heckler at a scene to rally a bunch of others to join in and start adding to an already tense situation.

Plus, the cops don't know this guy's agenda or what his intentions are. They treat every loudmouth at any scene the same, and if for some unknown reason he does something extra stupid like bring his dog into the fray I'm sorry but baddog's right on this one, they are going to get the matter under control as fast as possible.

Suggesting they unculf someone who is in custody at a scene is just plain ridiculous. Not because I think so, but because that's the way cops are trained. Bitching about it on the interwebs is not going to change that.

Learn to understand the cop mentality and these things become a lot clearer, and less agravating to watch. I'm not saying cops are infallible, of course they aren't. We all know that. In plenty of cases cops deserve the critisism levied at them. But in this case I'd have to agree that the idiot has only himself to blame for getting his dog killed. But no, let's all go on bitching about this idiot's "rights".

thanks for the permission

tell us more about how cops think

It's not pessimism Richard, it's reality, something you've demonstrated time and again you know nothing about.

Once again, I've noticed you, now run along.

pessimism?

Well, seeing as how your "thanks for the permission" comment made absolutely zero sense (as usual) I took the liberty of assuming you were trying but failing miserably to spell "pessimism".

You don't need my permission Richard, you'll go on stalking my posts with your mindlessness as you will.

Carry on.

you didn't read the last line of what i was responding to?

So my 'not making sense' had more to do with your inability to properly process information sitting right in front of you?

Shocking.

Take whatever liberties you can afford. However with this 'purchase', id suggest reviewing your own spelling.

It is perfectly legal to video the police on duty, it has been taken to the supreme court and won. You never have to turn off your camera. Look it up.

Also, the guy thought the cops were overstepping their bounds and he told them about it. I saw this guy mouthing off to the cops telling that they were racist. This is not a crime or a reason to put handcuffs/arrest a the guy. (we all know that talking shit to cops will get you arrested or get the fuck beat out of you. BUT THAT IS WRONG AND ILLEGAL USE OF FORCE.)
The way I see it the cops put this guy in handcuffs for no (legal) reason and then killed his fucking dog that was doing his job protecting his owner.
COPs were wrong all the way down the line.
They should have taken the dog into consideration long before putting the cuffs on his owner for nothing.

they did.

dude won't be taking anymore pictures for some time.

Enjoy your ban!

Yeah, you're probably right too....... They showed his ass who's boss.:Oh crap

Stop talking about videotaping already! Did you see this guy, who shoot this video got arrested? No! It is no about videotaping.

If you think police was wrong, then go put fucking complaint to police bosses or media, just stay away from them while they working. Or you think is OK to take your dog and start bitching and cross the line? Look at him - it was showoff challenge. He deserved to be handcuffed.

If that guy gave a fuck about his dog he would have taken the dog home instead of messing around the cops.

Bingo; he thought he was intimidating someone with it.

dog hahahah

:2 cents::thumbsup

the truth is most americans haven't checked in with dwb with their views for him to be able to make such a sweeping assumption of 900 million people.

"An anti-dog weapon".

The man failed to secure his dog in the vehicle. The dog got loose and attacked officers. But you blame the officer for not carrying some sort of "anti-dog weapon" - instead having to shoot the dog to defend himself.

And from what I saw in the video...he didn't shoot the dog as a first option.

The owner was fully responsible for the dog being shot. End of story.

I have to ask, what is an anti-dog weapon? A hose?