So Croatia joined the EU... I feel pity for you guys!

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  • ctggls
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2012
    • 898
    #1

    So Croatia joined the EU... I feel pity for you guys!

    Taxes will grow every day, millions of Kuna will be thrown out the window on some mega-useless EU projects, you'll get hit everyday but all sort of EU regulations, small private business will close down in a very short time because of the impossibility to respect all EU laws and regulations for their domain of activity, the daily living price will rise instantly, you'll no longer be a Sovereign state but rather a state ruled my Merkel....

    but don't worry, just enjoy the moment, Croatians have centuries ahead to regret it...
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    • adult-help
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      • Mar 2008
      • 2450
      #2
      I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..
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        • baggg
          So Fucking Banned
          • Mar 2012
          • 1432
          #3
          yep,congrats for the national suicide

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            • k0nr4d
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              • Aug 2006
              • 9231
              #4
              Originally posted by adult-help
              I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..
              This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.
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                • Markul
                  Likes Pie
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 12403
                  #5
                  The more the merrier.
                  But.... I pulled out...

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                    • ctggls
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 898
                      #6
                      Originally posted by k0nr4d
                      This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.
                      That you later pay in trillions made up of loans.... Croatia will probably get the same.

                      Even the older members of the EU are complaining about being to hard to stay in the EU...

                      Of course, one could say that Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Greece etc, did not knew hot to handle finances and money but then if all the countries with financial problems would disappear from the EU , who would it be left, Germany alone (which it should be said is complaining about the fact that it pays the bill of poorer countries)?

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                        • Klen
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 32235
                          #7
                          So i finaly wake up after partying in night and checked streets....And i dont see milk and honey floating!WTF is this bullshit,i want my money back !

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                            • Pronstar
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 218
                              #8
                              C'mon it's not exactly Hotel California. They can step out anytime they want, if they don't like it there.
                              Congrats neighbors.
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                                • Antonio
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 14136
                                  #9
                                  Better roads, financial aid for many of their industry sectors, their tourism (huge part of their economy) will probably start growing with at least 10% per year. And if you want to watch Man United live, all you need is a few hundred bucks for a plane ticket, no standing in line for visas and all that crap.

                                  The EU with all its shit and problems has no alternative, collectively, the EU is the biggest economy in the World and that gives us a lot of leverage. The reason everybody and their cousins are bitching is because they are pussies, the economy got bad, people lost jobs, yeah, it is tough ... guess what, man up, Europe has seen much worse.

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                                    • Markul
                                      Likes Pie
                                      • Dec 2007
                                      • 12403
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Antonio
                                      The reason everybody and their cousins are bitching is because they are pussies, the economy got bad, people lost jobs, yeah, it is tough ... guess what, man up, Europe has seen much worse.
                                      But.... I pulled out...

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                                        • Kolargol
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 1319
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by ctggls
                                          That you later pay in trillions made up of loans.... Croatia will probably get the same.
                                          these are not loans

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                                            • pornmasta
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jun 2006
                                              • 20016
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by adult-help
                                              I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..


                                              You bet ?

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                                                • pornmasta
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                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                  • 20016
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Antonio
                                                  financial aid for many of their industry sectors.
                                                  cool.. free money...

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                                                    • pornmasta
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                      • 20016
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                      these are not loans
                                                      if the product is free then you are the product.
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                                                        • Antonio
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 14136
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                          You bet ?
                                                          Yes, all a country has to do is stay outside the EU and it will be as awesome as Switzerland. Dear Albanians, stay outside the EU and your GDP will go trough the roof in no time, you don't have to work, innovate, bust your ass off, just do nothing and chill out, as long as you are outside the EU, you will be super rich in no time, pornmasta said so, so it must be true

                                                          Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                          cool.. free money...
                                                          It's called investment and it yields pretty decent return, do you really think that the richer EU countries don't benefit from the better infrastructure in the peripherals?

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                                                            • just a punk
                                                              So fuckin' bored
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 32393
                                                              #16
                                                              I don't think it will significantly change the life in Croatia. Somebody will gain, somebody will lose
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                                                                • pimpmaster9000
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2011
                                                                  • 26732
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by ctggls
                                                                  Taxes will grow every day, millions of Kuna will be thrown out the window on some mega-useless EU projects, you'll get hit everyday but all sort of EU regulations, small private business will close down in a very short time because of the impossibility to respect all EU laws and regulations for their domain of activity, the daily living price will rise instantly, you'll no longer be a Sovereign state but rather a state ruled my Merkel....

                                                                  but don't worry, just enjoy the moment, Croatians have centuries ahead to regret it...
                                                                  every time a small fish enters a pond with big fish the result is always the same...you will get EU obligations but you will not get EU $$$...the "admittance money" that you will get will be spent by politicians on their private "in pocket" projects and you, the people, will have to pay this back...

                                                                  as for "sovereign state" this is a complete illusion...there are 3-4 sovereign states total and they have nasty nukes and a way to deliver...all the rest are not sovereign by any stretch of the imagination...
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                                                                    • Paul
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 2637
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Welcome back to the Soviet Union



                                                                      Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                      This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.
                                                                      Another country that has been sold down the river by their politicians!

                                                                      Enjoy the pitance you receive in blood money for the financial slavery of your futures, your children's futures and your children's, children's futures



                                                                      Have a conversation with the Irish, Greek, Spanish, Italians, Portugese etc about how those EU grants are working out for them now!

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                                                                        • just a punk
                                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 32393
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Paul
                                                                          Indeed, this picture has a sense
                                                                          Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                            • seeandsee
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                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                              • 50945
                                                                              #20
                                                                              but they can go to work everywhere now
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                                                                                • Paul
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                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 2637
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                                  but they can go to work everywhere now
                                                                                  Yeah you're right, instead of being unemployed in Croatia they can be unemployed in the UK, Germany, France etc

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                                                                                    • money biz
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                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 1016
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      pretty sure croatias biggest regret is siding with hitler.

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                                                                                        • ctggls
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                                                                                          • Aug 2012
                                                                                          • 898
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                          every time a small fish enters a pond with big fish the result is always the same...you will get EU obligations but you will not get EU $$$...the "admittance money" that you will get will be spent by politicians on their private "in pocket" projects and you, the people, will have to pay this back...

                                                                                          as for "sovereign state" this is a complete illusion...there are 3-4 sovereign states total and they have nasty nukes and a way to deliver...all the rest are not sovereign by any stretch of the imagination...
                                                                                          Dead on my friend! So true!

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                                                                                            • ctggls
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                                                                                              • Aug 2012
                                                                                              • 898
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                                              but they can go to work everywhere now
                                                                                              Don't you think Germany, UK, etc have their own unemployed work force?

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                                                                                                • dyna mo
                                                                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                                                  • 68184
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  that was quick, last i read croatia was still handing over war criminals in an attempt to get accepted into the eu.

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                                                                                                    • ctggls
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2012
                                                                                                      • 898
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      "EU funds" are myth, very few individuals or companies can access them and it takes a lot of paperwork to get it done. If you live in countries where corruption is high only certain "applicants" are qualified to get the so called "EU funds".

                                                                                                      On the other hands I wonder how many Croatian Holiday Pensions will manage to comply with the never ending regulations regarding holiday Pensions...

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                                                                                                        • rogueteens
                                                                                                          So fucking bland
                                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                                          • 8005
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                                                          This is true. Poland for instance got a shitload of money for roads and for billions of euros in grants for small business development (meaning you can write up a business plan and get free money from the EU). Croatia will probably get the same.
                                                                                                          is there anyone left in Poland to use the new roads?
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                                                                                                            • Antonio
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                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                              • 14136
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by rogueteens
                                                                                                              is there anyone left in Poland to use the new roads?
                                                                                                              only about 38 million people

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                                                                                                                • mineistaken
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                                                                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                  • 29656
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pornmasta


                                                                                                                  You bet ?
                                                                                                                  Wrong.

                                                                                                                  1. This is one of the exceptions, it has valid background for it (respected banking system)
                                                                                                                  2. Who knows if Switzerland would not have been even better if joined EU?

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                                                                                                                    • mineistaken
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                                                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                      • 29656
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul
                                                                                                                      Yeah you're right, instead of being unemployed in Croatia they can be unemployed in the UK, Germany, France etc
                                                                                                                      Wrong. Almost everybody from cheaper EU that goes to UK finds a job (minimum wage in fabric or similar). Those statistics means nothing, as this is different matter - there are always minimum wage work for EU immigrants.

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                                                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                          • 39861
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i am still a big fan of the EU besides all negative things that of course exist as well.

                                                                                                                          but opposed to the young folks on here, i remember how it was before - and no, not everything was better in the past

                                                                                                                          so: welcome Croatia!
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                                                                                                                            • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                              • 2512
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul
                                                                                                                              Have a conversation with the Irish, Greek, Spanish, Italians, Portugese etc about how those EU grants are working out for them now!
                                                                                                                              The two countries that received the most EU money where Ireland and Portugal :


                                                                                                                              Ireland went from being one of the poorest countries to being the second richest in the EU, despite the recession they are still third.

                                                                                                                              Portugal who was at the bottom with Ireland doubled their GDP in the 10+ years since joining. Spain profited too but spent too much on megalomaniac projects.

                                                                                                                              Italy and Greece are just too corrupt to manage any sort of funds.


                                                                                                                              If some thought the party would last forever and didn't manage to put money aside during the Boom years you can't really blame the Eu for that

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                                                                                                                                • AtlantisCash
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2005
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                                                                                                                                  #33
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                                                                                                                                    • SpicyM
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                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                      • 4575
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      It is just strange that Croats who fought a bloody war for independence now voluntarily sacrifice that independence for EU. Guess this was the wish of the young ones.

                                                                                                                                      States with an average salary of 800 EUR can hardly play a game with states where the average is 3000 EUR. The whole idea behind EU is stupid.

                                                                                                                                      I hope their dictatorship falls very soon. Fuckin hate their stupid laws.
                                                                                                                                      Last edited by SpicyM; 07-01-2013, 05:44 AM.
                                                                                                                                      no sig, sorry

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                                                                                                                                        • lucas131
                                                                                                                                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 11475
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          cool, another black hole on my eu map ... hidden cops have been smoking ganja on beaches just to catch tourists who wanted to buy ... cops have been throwing all the food you had for travel to trash just to make you buying their crap ... and so and so and so, what a stupid country it is ... now lets welcome iran to eu! iran and uzbekistan! cant wait!

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                                                                                                                                            • rogueteens
                                                                                                                                              So fucking bland
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 8005
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                                                                                              Wrong. Almost everybody from cheaper EU that goes to UK finds a job (minimum wage in fabric or similar). Those statistics means nothing, as this is different matter - there are always minimum wage work for EU immigrants.
                                                                                                                                              yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

                                                                                                                                              The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.
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                                                                                                                                                • Antonio
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 14136
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by rogueteens
                                                                                                                                                  yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

                                                                                                                                                  The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.
                                                                                                                                                  You are 100% right, as soon as you pull out of the EU, everything will be honey and roses, all the immigrants will come from your ex-colonies (no more scary Eastern Europeans), and your standard of living will double in a year or less. Good luck

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                                                                                                                                                    • SpicyM
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                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 4575
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rogueteens
                                                                                                                                                      yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

                                                                                                                                                      The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.

                                                                                                                                                      I am surprised at how Brits tolerate all those migrants.
                                                                                                                                                      no sig, sorry

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                                                                                                                                                        • Paul
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                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 2637
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                          The two countries that received the most EU money where Ireland and Portugal :

                                                                                                                                                          Ireland went from being one of the poorest countries to being the second richest in the EU, despite the recession they are still third.
                                                                                                                                                          Granted Ireland spent a lot of their EU grant money wisely on infrastructure I'll give you that. Most of that economic growth was tied into the housing bubble and an unsustainable reliance on the construction industry that completely collapsed when the credit crunch hit.

                                                                                                                                                          Ireland also had one of if not the biggest housing bubble in the EU which has resulted in a catastrophic crash in prices.

                                                                                                                                                          Irish banks are ALL insolvent and the next EU bailout will most likely result in depositors loosing their savings, the Cyprus incident was pretty much a blueprint for future EU terms and conditions for bailouts.

                                                                                                                                                          Irish emigration is now at highest point since the Famine.

                                                                                                                                                          None of this reckless lending through MBS was the fault of the people yet everyone in the EU is paying for it through crazy austerity measures and a big fall in living standards.

                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                          Italy and Greece are just too corrupt to manage any sort of funds.

                                                                                                                                                          If some thought the party would last forever and didn't manage to put money aside during the Boom years you can't really blame the Eu for that
                                                                                                                                                          The whole thing is corrupt to the core, this isn't just about a couple of countries being corrupt. Every single one of us 503,492,041 citizens of the EU will pay for the corruption and greed by the bankers and politicians that have caused this financial collapse.

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                                                                                                                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 26174
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by adult-help
                                                                                                                                                              I think still better than being outside.. most if not all countries profited more than being outside..
                                                                                                                                                              profited at who's expense?
                                                                                                                                                              .
                                                                                                                                                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                                                                                                              Rochard

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                                                                                                                                                                • Antonio
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 14136
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                  profited at who's expense?
                                                                                                                                                                  Profited by gaining access to the single biggest market in the World, wealth is something that you create, it isn't a pizza, where if country A takes bigger slice, country B will be left with the smaller one.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2512
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul
                                                                                                                                                                      Granted Ireland spent a lot of their EU grant money wisely on infrastructure I'll give you that. Most of that economic growth was tied into the housing bubble and an unsustainable reliance on the construction industry that completely collapsed when the credit crunch hit.

                                                                                                                                                                      Ireland also had one of if not the biggest housing bubble in the EU which has resulted in a catastrophic crash in prices.


                                                                                                                                                                      Irish banks are ALL insolvent and the next EU bailout will most likely result in depositors loosing their savings, the Cyprus incident was pretty much a blueprint for future EU terms and conditions for bailouts.

                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not pro-EU but what does Irish banks lending to Irish people have to do with the EU?

                                                                                                                                                                      If anything it's the very British obsession with property and the aspirational ?housing ladder? that fueled some of the madness in many European countries.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • rogueteens
                                                                                                                                                                          So fucking bland
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                          • 8005
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                                                                                                                          You are 100% right, as soon as you pull out of the EU, everything will be honey and roses, all the immigrants will come from your ex-colonies (no more scary Eastern Europeans), and your standard of living will double in a year or less. Good luck
                                                                                                                                                                          Why do you think we now have things like the EDL and UKIP?
                                                                                                                                                                          Immigration in the UK is way, way past saturation point, no matter where they are from.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 26174
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Antonio
                                                                                                                                                                              Profited by gaining access to the single biggest market in the World, wealth is something that you create, it isn't a pizza, where if country A takes bigger slice, country B will be left with the smaller one.
                                                                                                                                                                              Right... they gain access to... they benefit from... they this and they that. But overall, what is in it for France or Germany or Sweden? How do they benefit? One more country with a vote to stifle legislation. One more country to complain about France and Germany and others not adhering to tax and budget requirements.... one more country to ship its workouts out to work cheaper etc etc etc.
                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by TheSquealer; 07-01-2013, 07:39 AM.
                                                                                                                                                                              .
                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                                                                                                                              Rochard

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                                                                                                                                                                                • sandman!
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 32393
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                      i am still a big fan of the EU besides all negative things that of course exist as well.
                                                                                                                                                                                      What exactly do you like in the EU model? The only good thing I see there is a border-less area. This could be done on the the base of the existing Schengen zone.

                                                                                                                                                                                      On the other hand, the common economical model for so many absolutely different countries is a way to nowhere. You (the EU guys) just re-constructed the USSR ver. 2.0.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Some brainwashed morons here think that the USSR was dissolved because the "epic win of the USA during the Cold War". That's just a stupid home-brew fairytale for various rednecks, hippies and former marines. The real reason was its non-organic structure, when absolutely different nations were enforced to live according to the same laws. Furthermore, a few republics (equivalent to the EU countries) were obligated to support all others where people were so fuckin' lazy (had "different traditions and mentality") to work on the same level (look how different is the unemployment rate in various EU countries). This is why the Soviet people got tired of that bullshit (yeah it took for us more than 70 to realize) and they said "NO" to the USSR during the state referendum in 1991.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • mineistaken
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by rogueteens
                                                                                                                                                                                          yes, the UK jobs market is like internet marketing, all was rosy until the tubes and third worlders turned up happy to work for scraps. now just about every job is minimum wage as the east Europeans will do any job for less than the original going rate.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The EU is a fuckfest and the quicker we get our long promised referendum the better.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Those who actually work is not UK's biggest problem. Biggest problem is african/arabic/paki etc immigrants who just breed and gets social payouts. Its like a job for thm because it is pretty easy to live of government handouts in UK.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 75733
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Congrats to the winners. It makes sense.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 39861
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                                                                                                                                  What exactly do you like in the EU model? The only good thing I see there is a border-less area. This could be done on the the base of the existing Schengen zone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  On the other hand, the common economical model for so many absolutely different countries is a way to nowhere. You (the EU guys) just re-constructed the USSR ver. 2.0.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Some brainwashed morons here think that the USSR was dissolved because the "epic win of the USA during the Cold War". That's just a stupid home-brew fairytale for various rednecks, hippies and former marines. The real reason was its non-organic structure, when absolutely different nations were enforced to live according to the same laws. Furthermore, a few republics (equivalent to the EU countries) were obligated to support all others where people were so fuckin' lazy (had "different traditions and mentality") to work on the same level (look how different is the unemployment rate in various EU countries). This is why the Soviet people got tired of that bullshit (yeah it took for us more than 70 to realize) and they said "NO" to the USSR during the state referendum in 1991.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  like i said - i dont share the negative thoughts so many people have about the EU

                                                                                                                                                                                                  i can move around (and not just travel) without any restrictions in now 28 countries, pay in many of those with the same currency and save a lot of time and money on not having to do tax declarations and all that nonsense.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Countries like CZ, PL etc. have profited enormously from the EU, i just need to look outside my window

                                                                                                                                                                                                  and now i would like to hear who actually is negatively affected by the EU

                                                                                                                                                                                                  anyone is personally poorer now than before?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 32393
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                                                                                                                      anyone is personally poorer now than before?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Let's see how long Germany and France will feed Greeks and others from their own pocket. I have a supermarket on the first level in my condo, so there will be no problem with a fresh and hot popcorn
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Obey the Cowgod

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