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Driving is not a right, it is a privilege.
If some drunk idiot refuses to obey the law his license should be revoked on the spot and he should be thrown in jail for 30 days. And he should be slapped around a bit for the hell of it and be forced to watch reruns of Paula Deen's cooking show.

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 19691832)

You're right. I guess your perspective would change if you didn't have that 'right' right?

Traveling is a right. You are not a driver unless driving for commerce.

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19691821)

Even tho you have been acclimated by fabricated CNN:

You are correct, Driving is a privilege.
Driving is legally defined as using a vehicle to conduct commerce.

However; Driving to travel is defined as moving from point A to point B for private or leisurely purposes.

Driving on American Roads is a Constitutional Right, not a State-Granted 'Privilege'

If you are traveling in your vehicle on vacation or just farting around on a joy ride. It is your right... No privilege intended.

You do have to have a license recognized by the state you are driving in.

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19691850)

You do have to have a license recognized by the state you are driving in.

Of course, if you're driving for commerce.

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19691842)

You're right. I guess your perspective would change if you didn't have that 'right' right?

Traveling is a right. You are not a driver unless driving for commerce.

Okay, step away from the pipe and try making some sense.

You are a driver if you get in a car and drive it, genius.

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19691821)

that simply means you have the right to use the highways and byways for TRAVEL, it has nothing to do with the priviledge of driving an auto.

here's a sample state's sc ruling

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The Supreme Court of the State of Illinois ruled:

4.1 Even the legislature has no power to deny to a Citizen the "RIGHT" to travel upon the roadways and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this "RIGHT" might be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience. See: Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 N.E. 22

"Regulated" here means traffic safety enforcement, stop lights, sign, etc., NOT a privilege that requires permission, i.e.; licensing, mandatory insurance, vehicle registration, etc..

cut & dry.

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19691851)

Of course, if you're driving for commerce.

I'd like some of whatever you are smoking please.

I hear all of these arguments, and the bottom line is that although driving is not a right, the right to personal dignity and unwarranted search and seizure and not having cops strap you down against you're will is suppost to be a right last time I checked... Imho, the end does not justify the means at all.

And where does it end? Do you really think the forefathers had this shit in mind? I seriously doubt it! Come on...

i lold at "what country is this?"

c'mon you drink and drive , on top of that you refuse to blow, then expect this.

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 19691893)

Actually, this is where states rights come into play; it would be out of the forefather's hands, as they desired.

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Originally Posted by nexcom28 (Post 19691324)

What if you refuse on religious grounds?

Who cares there? :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas (Post 19691291)

This is disgusting.

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-...drawing-blood/

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Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt.