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Ray@TastyDollars · 02-26-2003, 11:41 AM

I was crunching some numbers and noticed that sofar this month I had 4 declined First Time Transactions. Pretty normal.

Then I noticed I had 27 Declined Rebills, for a total of $726.65 lost.

I can understand how first time buyers get declied due to cc fraud and what not. However, im not clear how one can get 27 Declined Rebills.

I can undersatnd if 2-3-5 even 10 rebillers have no more funds in their cards, but 27! what are the odds?

Can someone please help me understand this?

Ray

gothweb · 02-26-2003, 11:42 AM

It all really depends on what percentage of your rebills that was.

boneprone · 02-26-2003, 11:51 AM

what program are you pushing, and do you see the same dynamic with ccbill or any other processor for that program?

im assuming its CFF?

chupacabra · 02-26-2003, 11:54 AM

thats a *lot* of failed rebills at once, especially if they are not all first-timers... when you check, are these people who have had successful rebills in the past..?

Ray@TastyDollars · 02-26-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
what program are you pushing, and do you see the same dynamic with ccbill or any other processor for that program?

im assuming its CFF?

Its the first program I push (except Karups Pc) that shows declines. Therefore I cant compare, however I assume 27 declined REBILLS is somewhat excessive, right?

Ray

Fletch XXX · 02-26-2003, 12:00 PM

i do much better with wsb than cc bill in regards to sales for CFF.

when the only thing that changes is a linking code its easy to see the difference.

I had traffic going to them for 3 months using one code, made sales everyday, switched it to cc bill no longer the case.

no rebills either.

My wsb is rebilling like a motherfucker though.

Ray@TastyDollars · 02-26-2003, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i do much better with wsb than cc bill in regards to sales for CFF.

when the only thing that changes is a linking code its easy to see the difference.

I had traffic going to them for 3 months using one code, made sales everyday, switched it to cc bill no longer the case.

no rebills either.

My wsb is rebilling like a motherfucker though.

I agree totaly, however what Im am asking is: Is it normal to have 27 declined rebills? Lets not forget, these are rebills, they already are/were members.

Ray

eRock · 02-26-2003, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i do much better with wsb than cc bill in regards to sales for CFF.

when the only thing that changes is a linking code its easy to see the difference.

I had traffic going to them for 3 months using one code, made sales everyday, switched it to cc bill no longer the case.

no rebills either.

My wsb is rebilling like a motherfucker though.

Same here...except I have 33 declined rebills this month.

boneprone · 02-26-2003, 12:12 PM

somethings wrong

p00p · 02-26-2003, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

I agree totaly, however what Im am asking is: Is it normal to have 27 declined rebills? Lets not forget, these are rebills, they already are/were members.

Ray

Can you find out what credit cards they were? Visa or Mastercard?

Shoplifter · 02-26-2003, 12:52 PM

70 declined rebills this month. And of course no fucking check.

XxXotic · 02-26-2003, 01:14 PM

its odd to me with like 75+ sales a month i never had more then 30 active rebills.... cff conversions this month suck ass too. real bad

and still no check

SleazyDream · 02-26-2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

Its the first program I push (except Karups Pc) that shows declines. Therefore I cant compare, however I assume 27 declined REBILLS is somewhat excessive, right?

Ray

i would think that would depend on volume

Ray@TastyDollars · 02-26-2003, 01:21 PM

Just thought of something. Do you think by "Declined Rebills" they mean pepople who DID NOT want to rejoin for a second month. If thats the case then I guess its normal.

Now, if there are this may "Declined Rebills" due to credit card or processor problems something is wrong.

What do you think?

Ray

Kimmykim · 02-26-2003, 01:38 PM

Something is not neccessarily wrong, so don't jump to ill advised conclusions.

If the site you are talking about has a cheap trial -- i.e. 4 bucks or some such, then it's entirely possible -- AND quite often probable -- that some surfers will have enough left on their cards to squeak out a trial but not have enough for the rebill.

Now I would figure that WSB attempts to charge these soft declines multiple times before they trash them....

That is what you should be concerned with - the number of times and the time period in which they do that.

ronin · 02-26-2003, 01:43 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kimmykim
[B]Something is not neccessarily wrong, so don't jump to ill advised conclusions.

Yep, gotta look into ALL the factors.

eRock · 02-26-2003, 02:14 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ronin
[B]

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Something is not neccessarily wrong, so don't jump to ill advised conclusions.

Yep, gotta look into ALL the factors.

Well, they shouldn't post the declines in our stats then...it just drives everyone crazy. Or at least explain it somewhere in the stats so we know what's up. That way, at least, we'll know when to start pointing fingers.

ronin · 02-26-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eRock

Well, they shouldn't post the declines in our stats then...it just drives everyone crazy. Or at least explain it somewhere in the stats so we know what's up. That way, at least, we'll know when to start pointing fingers.

You tell them eRockster!

eRock · 02-26-2003, 02:42 PM

Maybe when CFF FINALLY does an update, we'll get more rebills...

Kimmykim · 02-26-2003, 02:43 PM

Would you rather think that these people cancelled? Or know that they just didn't freaking have 30 bucks?

eRock · 02-26-2003, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Would you rather think that these people cancelled? Or know that they just didn't freaking have 30 bucks?

I just wanna know why so many were declined, other than that...I don't care.

SR · 02-26-2003, 03:32 PM

What % is that 27 declined rebills?
Also they usualy tried it more than once.....
If they try to rebill a member twice but both times get declined it shows up as two delcines.
Kinda annoying....... I rather have them only show 1 decline per member.

My rebills and conversions have been okay this month but today sucks with 1:6000+

johnny1 · 02-26-2003, 05:05 PM

y you guys still pushing wsb...some people have not got payed since beging of january!!!!.............

02-26-2003, 11:41 AM	#1
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	More WSB News, 27 Declined Rebills? I was crunching some numbers and noticed that sofar this month I had 4 declined First Time Transactions. Pretty normal. Then I noticed I had 27 Declined Rebills, for a total of $726.65 lost. I can understand how first time buyers get declied due to cc fraud and what not. However, im not clear how one can get 27 Declined Rebills. I can undersatnd if 2-3-5 even 10 rebillers have no more funds in their cards, but 27! what are the odds? Can someone please help me understand this? Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

02-26-2003, 11:42 AM	#2
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02-26-2003, 11:51 AM	#3
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02-26-2003, 12:00 PM	#6
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02-26-2003, 12:12 PM	#9
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02-26-2003, 11:54 AM	#4
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	thats a lot of failed rebills at once, especially if they are not all first-timers... when you check, are these people who have had successful rebills in the past..?

02-26-2003, 12:52 PM	#11
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	70 declined rebills this month. And of course no fucking check.

02-26-2003, 01:14 PM	#12
XxXotic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Da Swamps Posts: 8,500	its odd to me with like 75+ sales a month i never had more then 30 active rebills.... cff conversions this month suck ass too. real bad and still no check __________________ Sponsors.. Tired of people not using your shitty RSS Feeds? Let Us Help You! Oxeo - Serious Hosting For Serious Webmasters. iCQ:135.887013

02-26-2003, 01:21 PM	#14
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Just thought of something. Do you think by "Declined Rebills" they mean pepople who DID NOT want to rejoin for a second month. If thats the case then I guess its normal. Now, if there are this may "Declined Rebills" due to credit card or processor problems something is wrong. What do you think? Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

02-26-2003, 01:38 PM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Something is not neccessarily wrong, so don't jump to ill advised conclusions. If the site you are talking about has a cheap trial -- i.e. 4 bucks or some such, then it's entirely possible -- AND quite often probable -- that some surfers will have enough left on their cards to squeak out a trial but not have enough for the rebill. Now I would figure that WSB attempts to charge these soft declines multiple times before they trash them.... That is what you should be concerned with - the number of times and the time period in which they do that.

02-26-2003, 01:43 PM	#16
ronin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Main St. Posts: 1,300	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kimmykim [B]Something is not neccessarily wrong, so don't jump to ill advised conclusions. Yep, gotta look into ALL the factors.

02-26-2003, 02:42 PM	#19
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	Maybe when CFF FINALLY does an update, we'll get more rebills... __________________ Swiftwill Hosting

02-26-2003, 02:43 PM	#20
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Would you rather think that these people cancelled? Or know that they just didn't freaking have 30 bucks?

02-26-2003, 03:32 PM	#22
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	What % is that 27 declined rebills? Also they usualy tried it more than once..... If they try to rebill a member twice but both times get declined it shows up as two delcines. Kinda annoying....... I rather have them only show 1 decline per member. My rebills and conversions have been okay this month but today sucks with 1:6000+

02-26-2003, 05:05 PM	#23
johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	y you guys still pushing wsb...some people have not got payed since beging of january!!!!.............