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xxxdesign-net 02-26-2003 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup



3) Do you think that Marine Maj. Gen. David F. Bice would be proud of your current involvement in the porn business? Do you think he would stand up and say YES I AM PROUD THAT A FORMER GRADUATE OF MY INSTITUTION IS A FUCKING WEBMASTER PORN BOARD TROLLER. And therin lies the real proof of your boneheadedness. You blindly stand up for a set of values inscribed to you by the government of your country, yet at the same time the government of your country is going to seriously fuck with the business you try to make a living from (porn... if your brain couldnt handle the allusion).
.

Well.. I think The Doc is also a Marine and a porn mogul...
Im not american... but I think the Republicans might not approve of that...
Just an impression...

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 02:56 PM

He is a disgrace to the uniform and a disgrace to your country.
************************************************

I disagree and site with Goebbels who said in 1945:

"In today's Germany,
a school boy with a riffle is more valuable, than 100 wise men who predict that Germany is finished"

he is a "man of actions" and my heart is with him.

MrPopup 02-26-2003 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
He is a disgrace to the uniform and a disgrace to your country.
************************************************

I disagree and site with Goebbels who said in 1945:

"In today's Germany,
a school boy with a riffle is more valuable, than 100 wise men who predict that Germany is finished"

he is a "man of actions" and my heart is with him.

Great....now we're talking about a guy who sides with the MARINES and with HITLER.


I think I am withdrawing from this thread. The heat is burning me.

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Great....now we're talking about a guy who sides with the MARINES and with HITLER.


I think I am withdrawing from this thread. The heat is burning me.

Mr Popup,
I always site with the side of LOGIC,
regardless where the logic comes from.

There is no "friendly logic" or "enemy logic",
there is just...LOGIC.

and if you can see that,
maybe your course of actions is very logical and getting from this thread for you is a right thing to do...

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 03:07 PM

best from Oprano:

Can I make a suggestion to all our Canadian friends
Please concentrate on the things you do well - Brewing Excellent Beers , having Beautiful women and incredible Strip clubs , Curling, Cirque du Soleil, Hockey and getting paid in American Dollars for your work/porn efforts

and please stay out of US Politics - the US will get the job done and we'll all be better off for it!

jhen 02-26-2003 03:13 PM

Mr. Pop Up,

I shared my point of view you insulted my family. Now you think that my choice to work in adult online is some kind of slap in the face against my military career.

Read the comments you initially responded with about my mother and ask yourself was that truly needed. I work here as a guy collecting a check to make sure the bills are paid and the mouths are fed.

If you want e-mail me I will tell you exactly who I am what do i have to be afraid of. As far as a discrace to uniform four merritorious promotions and the cake walk as you say in Panama must seem easy to dismiss since you were not there. What do you know about being veteran. How can you be so bold as to say someone is a disgrace to the uniform when you never served are you member of the firiends of a guy who knows a veteran club.

The bottom line is that i was sticking to my guns that the French turned on us so quickly after we liberated them. Go ask your WWII friends if they think the French should take the position you have since you are going to go out and ask them about right and wrong.

You came back and said horrible things about my family when i simply was countering some comments you made regarding the post. I do not claim to be one of the most influential people in the industry i do have quite a bit to learn abou ththis biz. i did learn long ago if you go after a mans family you better be able to back it up.

I never said a word about kicking your ass until for the second time you made some sexual references toward my mother. Now you are looking as emotional as I have. I do not see anybody jumping in and saying that you are dead on. I know nothing about you. i am willing to share my pride of my service where I served and how i served. Who cares if someone finds out who I am what are they going to do lock me up for revealing my background.

If I said something about your mother to your face....twice i would expect you or anyone else to react the same way. If your family is meaningless to you that is certainly your choice. As I said before, some people will fight for what they believe in. You cast the stone of stupidity toward me.....maybe you should not say horrible things about other peoples family. I like a good debate....I will hang as long as i can with what I know,believe, or can contribute.

Make sexual remarks about my mother and i will beat the shit out of you at the location of your choice.

As far as sitting back not me. You have the choice to not pay attention. I make mistakes we all do this biz is new to me. I am not here to be a millionaire i was given an opportunity to collect a check in a world where thaty is not as easy as it once had been. You are going to come down on me for trying to learn the biz.

I would be happy in private forum to discuss what contributions you have made to this industry. I think if we look ahead five years from now you are no big deal.

I actually feel kind of silly for letting this reach the level that it has but........I will stand up and go toe to toe for some things insulting my family is one of them. You seem upset.....why.....i am the drone remember

FATPad 02-26-2003 03:23 PM

Being in porn isn't a disgrace to any military uniform. My friend's Uncle is retired from the Marines. He was a Major (I think). He thought it was pretty cool what I do. ;)

Blowing your cool and threatening to kill people with your bare hands for no reason other than they made a stupid remark might be a different story, however.

All that training in how to kill people 87 different ways before they can blink an eye isn't so you can show off in public. I think he'd more pissed about that than about the porn biz stuff. *shrugs*

MrPopup 02-26-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


Mr Popup,
I always site with the side of LOGIC,
regardless where the logic comes from.

There is no "friendly logic" or "enemy logic",
there is just...LOGIC.

and if you can see that,
maybe your course of actions is very logical and getting from this thread for you is a right thing to do...

So the Holocaust was logical?

Serge, you may have just shot yourself in the foot with that remark.

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


So the Holocaust was logical?

Serge, you may have just shot yourself in the foot with that remark.

my dear friend,
how in the god's name you project the quote from Goebbels to ABSOLUTELLY unrelated thing?


I'm sure, one day,
you catch me up with illogical post...but not today.

jhen 02-26-2003 03:30 PM

I am finished with the thread....there may bes ome who feel that insults to family can be accepted. My family means too much to me.

I did not go there, I do not expect someone else to go there. Most people will not stand the ground they are on top of.....I will.

There is not a man or woman in this world who can tell me I was disgrace to the uniform unless you served with me.

Period.

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


So the Holocaust was logical?

Holocaust was a crime against humanity,
but if you see connection to the cabbage leaves,
it'
s a good time to use it now
;-)))

MrPopup 02-26-2003 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhen
There is not a man or woman in this world who can tell me I was disgrace to the uniform
You are a disgrace to the uniform. I just told you. See you in hell.

JeremySF 02-26-2003 03:35 PM

Serge,

You're an intelligent guy, but why is it that you try so hard to piss everyone who doesn't agree with you off? I probably agree with you more often than not, but choose a very different way of expressing my viewpoint. You're like Russian cowboy. Why not use your intelligence to enlighten and unify people rather than alienate them all?

-Jeremy

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
best from Oprano:

Can I make a suggestion to all our Canadian friends
Please concentrate on the things you do well - Brewing Excellent Beers , having Beautiful women and incredible Strip clubs , Curling, Cirque du Soleil, Hockey and getting paid in American Dollars for your work/porn efforts

and please stay out of US Politics - the US will get the job done and we'll all be better off for it!


MrPopup 02-26-2003 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


Holocaust was a crime against humanity,
but if you see connection to the cabbage leaves,
it'
s a good time to use it now
;-)))

I think the problem lies with trying to attribute any logic to Nazi Germany at all.

There was no logic, regardless of how many quotes you want to use from Hitler's propoganda minister.

Furthermore I think I really am going to stop discussing this thread. My blood pressure is too worked up and i apologize if what started out as a joke became too serious for both of us.

I hope you make some kickass money today.

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeremySF
Serge,

You're an intelligent guy, but why is it that you try so hard to piss everyone who doesn't agree with you off? I probably agree with you more often than not, but choose a very different way of expressing my viewpoint. You're like Russian cowboy. Why not use your intelligence to enlighten and unify people rather than alienate them all?

-Jeremy


Jeremy,
we all have OUR own ways of getting things done.

This approach has worked well for me over the years,
and I am a strong believer in not fixing things unless they are broken.

one day,
when I leave the industry for good,
I'll write the book and go over ALL approaches and WHY they would work for ANYBODY,
but...
not now
;-)

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


I think the problem lies with trying to attribute any logic to Nazi Germany at all.

There was no logic, regardless of how many quotes you want to use from Hitler's propoganda minister.


once again,
I disagree.

if you fail to see the logic,
it doesn't mean it's completelly abscent from the picture,
it just proves the limitation of your perception, that's all.

Sarah_Jayne 02-26-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Not to mention the lack of toothpast or dentists in europe. you think theyll ever get out of the dark ages?

well dang..I wonder how that colgate got on my sink and gee that person that drills my teeth every so often must just be a mad lady.

Joe Sixpack 02-26-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gregtx
forwarded from my "Ex-Marine" Father in law.. thought it was appropriate to share on this thread... Evil Chris should come tell us his alternate plan of diplomacy... ;-))

> > Dear Dad,
> >
> > A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp Bondsteel (Bosnia): A
> French
> > army officer walked up to me in the PX, and told me he thought we
> > (Americans) were a bunch of cowboys and were going to provoke a war in
> > Iraq.
> > He said if such a thing happens, we wouldn't be able to count on the
> > support
> > of France.
> >
> > I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had come to France's
> rescue
> > in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and the Cold War, their
ingratitude
> > and jealousy was due to surface [again] at some point in the near future
> > anyway.
> >
> > I also told him that is why France is a third-rate military power with a
> > socialist economy and a bunch of pansies for soldiers. I additionally
told
> > him that America, being a nation of deeds and action, not words, would
do
> > whatever it had to do, and France's support, if it ever came, was only
for
> > show anyway.
> >
> > Just like in ALL NATO exercises, the US would shoulder 85% of the
burden,
> > and provide 85% of the support, as evidenced by the fact that this
French
> > officer was shopping in the American PX, and not the other way around.
> >
> > He began to get belligerent at that point, and I told him if he would
like
> > to, I would meet him outside in front of the Burger King and whip his
ass
> > in
> > front of the entire Multi-National Brigade East, thus demonstrating that
> > even the smallest American had more fight in him than the average
> > Frenchman.
> >
> > He called me a barbarian cowboy and walked away in a huff.
> >
> > With friends like these, who needs enemies?
> >
> > Dad, tell Mom I love her,
> >
> > Your loving daughter,
> >
> > Mary Beth Johnson LtCol., USMC

BULLSHIT! Just more propaganda!

http://www.snopes.com/military/marine.htm

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 09:33 PM

holy shit...
now some fuckfaces from GFY come to Oprano and..
start
Boycot Serge threads...

Lensman,
can you keep fuckin' idiots HERE?

I'll pay your expenses if you tighten the corrale
;-)))

sacX 02-26-2003 09:47 PM

So France should support something they think is morally wrong because they are indebted to the US for eternity.
If France wasn't strong enough to stand up to the Hawks in Washington the world would be a nightmare.

60% of people in the US support a war (albeit most with UN support) so that's ~180million people. About 10-15% of people in the rest of the world so say maybe 900 million in a population of 6billion.

Yeah i can see how the US really loves to promote democracy..

asuna 02-26-2003 09:47 PM

100

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
So France should support something they think is morally wrong because they are indebted to the US for eternity.
If France wasn't strong enough to stand up to the Hawks in Washington the world would be a nightmare.

60% of people in the US support a war (albeit most with UN support) so that's ~180million people. About 10-15% of people in the rest of the world so say maybe 900 million in a population of 6billion.

Yeah i can see how the US really loves to promote democracy..

sure, sure,
you right, we DO need an acordeon to go into war to save ourselves from the repeat of Sept 11.

how do you say:
"French are pussies"
in French?

DavePlays 02-26-2003 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Yes...Boycott TECHNICOLOR as your website says.

Thats dem good ideas you got down dere' in Pofunk, West Virginia!

Lets Boycott the Statue of Liberty...it came from France too!



Leave West Virginia out of this. :winkwink:

FATPad 02-26-2003 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
So France should support something they think is morally wrong because they are indebted to the US for eternity.
If France wasn't strong enough to stand up to the Hawks in Washington the world would be a nightmare.

60% of people in the US support a war (albeit most with UN support) so that's ~180million people. About 10-15% of people in the rest of the world so say maybe 900 million in a population of 6billion.

Yeah i can see how the US really loves to promote democracy..

So why is no one sending troops to Iraq to defend Saddam and defend democracy against the tyrannical, world domination seeking United States?

DavePlays 02-26-2003 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
So France should support something they think is morally wrong because they are indebted to the US for eternity.
If France wasn't strong enough to stand up to the Hawks in Washington the world would be a nightmare.

60% of people in the US support a war (albeit most with UN support) so that's ~180million people. About 10-15% of people in the rest of the world so say maybe 900 million in a population of 6billion.

Yeah i can see how the US really loves to promote democracy..


So I guess it safe to assume you aren't coming over for the big "Lights Over Baghdad Show on CNN" Party we're going to have huh?

24 hours a day of non-stop whoop-ass !!!!

:BangBang:

DavePlays 02-26-2003 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
So why is no one sending troops to Iraq to defend Saddam and defend democracy against the tyrannical, world domination seeking United States?


Good fucking question isn't it?

:thumbsup

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DavePlays




Good fucking question isn't it?

:thumbsup


hell yeah!!!!:Kissmy :GFYBand

sacX 02-26-2003 11:31 PM

no it's a stupid question :)

sacX 02-26-2003 11:35 PM

Quote:

you right, we DO need an acordeon to go into war to save ourselves from the repeat of Sept 11.
um how is GWB's war on terror saving you from a repeat of Sept 11? Now there are 10x the crazys who want to attack the US... that's a real succesful campaign if you ask me.

Brujah 02-26-2003 11:40 PM

http://moonbeam.net/sfhs/articles/Br...es/silence.jpg

http://moonbeam.net/sfhs/articles/Br...ingAmerica.htm

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html

Serge_Oprano 02-26-2003 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX

um how is GWB's war on terror saving you from a repeat of Sept 11? Now there are 10x the crazys who want to attack the US... that's a real succesful campaign if you ask me.

we destroy there infrastructure,
financial support,
and show all the governments that harborring terrorists is NOT the best way to go in this life...

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
no it's a stupid question :)
Yes, it's a very fucking stupid question.

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 12:13 AM

Nice.

:1orglaugh

Brujah 02-27-2003 12:38 AM

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

http://www.hermes-press.com/goering.jpg

Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag,
Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief,
from Gilbert, G.M. (1947). Nurenberg Diary, New York: Signet

Joe Sixpack 02-27-2003 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

http://www.hermes-press.com/goering.jpg

Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag,
Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief,
from Gilbert, G.M. (1947). Nurenberg Diary, New York: Signet

So fucking true.

Why don't we ever learn from history?

sacX 02-27-2003 01:43 AM

Quote:

we destroy there infrastructure, financial support, and show all the governments that harborring terrorists is NOT the best way to go in this life.
I'm sorry the terrorists have already won. The US way of life has been sacrificed, now all you have is this paranoia that will breed more terrorism.. you are trying to put out the terrorism fire by pouring some oil on it..

american pervert 02-27-2003 04:54 AM

what a bunch of babies

france sucks, really, they do.. most of europe could give to shits.

fuck a chef there killed himself b/c his restruant only got 4 stars, not 5

boo fuckin' hoo

reason to stop saddam.. he's fucking evil.. you wanna talk anout nazi's then the frech are perfect.. they took it in the ass from them and smiled

france hates jews more then germany does.. or is just more open b/c in germany they'll lock your ass up if you say anti jew shit

if bush and his kin were anything like saddam, then would could make this argument, read about the both of them.. saddam does much more evil shit.. hit oldest son, who is insane and tried to kill his younger brother b/c daddy knows he's not nuts, attends weddings and fucks the bride b/c no one will stop him

and the bush girls get drunk

saddam PERSONALLY excutes ppl... and he had his sons excute ppl when they were childern

so folks. .you really want crazy ppl to have weapons of mass destruction who have no care for you, ok.. be my guest.. in fact, move to that fucking country and enjoy life there.. I'm sure n. korea is a great place to live too.
don;t like the usa fine, you don;t have too.. but here in the states atleast we can bitch about it and not worry about the secret police taking you away in the night
and if you live in the states and bitching, be grateful you aren't somewhere less tolerent, I've been to a few places.. this is the best I've been so far

here is one of the better quotes- "A lot of folks are still demanding more evidence before they actually consider Iraq a threat. For example, France wants more evidence. And you know I'm thinking, the last time France wanted more evidence they rolled right through Paris with the German flag." ?David Letterman


gnite.. its too late to care what ppl think who aren't making me money

Serge_Oprano 02-27-2003 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX


I'm sorry the terrorists have already won. The US way of life has been sacrificed, now all you have is this paranoia that will breed more terrorism.. you are trying to put out the terrorism fire by pouring some oil on it..


hmmmm...I guess if we rolled on the back like France does,
than French pussies concider us being a winners, not terrorists...

we are living in a fucked up world,
French needs a crazy mofo to blow Louvre...
;-))

FATPad 02-27-2003 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
no it's a stupid question :)
Why is it a stupid question?

You're saying the US is invading another country for imperialistic reasons and nothing else. You're saying the US is trampling democracy, removing a leader who shouldn't be removed, and committing acts of war with no reason.

Surely such atrocities cannot go unchecked?


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