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Konda 06-23-2013 04:01 AM

He's currently in a plane from HK to Russia. From there he will most likely fly to Cuba, Iceland or Equador

RummyBoy 06-23-2013 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19682987)
He's currently in a plane from HK to Russia. From there he will most likely fly to Cuba, Iceland or Equador

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regiona...d-for-russia-1

This is msn Malaysia source..... how reliable?

If Chinese let him go, no way Russian will take him otherwise.... they're playing football with him.

Konda 06-23-2013 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 19683001)
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regiona...d-for-russia-1

This is msn Malaysia source..... how reliable?

Anyway the Russian will want to help USA.

It's also on other news channels.

Hong Kong confirmed it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...WikiLeaks.html

Russia will not help the USA, they will let him fly to wherever he is planning to go.

RummyBoy 06-23-2013 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19683004)
It's also on other news channels.

Hong Kong confirmed it.

Wrong........ Hong Kong did not arrest him because the US documents supplied were incorrect. I guess someone's head is going to roll (as they say in USA) :1orglaugh

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...tradition.html

PS What why would someone's head roll anyway?

seeandsee 06-23-2013 06:06 AM

they will hunt him, just to show what they do

DWB 06-23-2013 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19682987)
He's currently in a plane from HK to Russia. From there he will most likely fly to Cuba, Iceland or Equador

Hopefully one of them will shelter him long term and perhaps even give him citizenship.

crockett 06-23-2013 07:09 AM

We have both conservatives and liberals backing the govt on this and the right has been quiet as a mouse on all this when it's the biggest scandal yet, that they could try to lynch Obama with.

That should be enough to tell anyone this shit is fucking us with a 12 foot dildo. I think they are hiding even more..I support Snow den on this from what I've seen so far, this is a power grab by both the right and left and it's our rights they are taking.

Just saying...

MrBottomTooth 06-23-2013 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 19683080)
Wrong........ Hong Kong did not arrest him because the US documents supplied were incorrect. I guess someone's head is going to roll (as they say in USA) :1orglaugh

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...tradition.html

PS What why would someone's head roll anyway?

If you were seriously asking, its a reference to someone having their head chopped off by an executioner and it rolling across the ground.

GAH 06-23-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19682909)
LOL wut? MySpace? alienate America and Britain? :1orglaugh

I thought the same after I read it back about MySpace :1orglaugh I should have edited it out.

I read today that private messaging through Facebook has reduced by nearly 30% since news broke that it is unsafe to do so and is being read by America. I would expect Facebook to all but fade away within a few years because of this (like MySpace has!), and the same with Google and Apple. If that does happen, and companies like Sony and Samsung replace them, how can American technology companies rebuild the little trust they have left?

If it had been Putin and Hu Jintao invading Iraq, arming the Libyans, murdering their leaders, continually goading Iran and North Korea and about to arm the Syrian rebels, mostly because of oil. If Efgany Snodenov had been a whistle-blower escaping to the US to tell the world Russia has been spying on every American's mobile phone and computer usage, then sharing it with Iran and China, what would be the likely outcome?

It soon will be the world's population v America and Britain if things don't change soon.

just a punk 06-23-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 19681620)
shame, seems like a good guy.

He's in Moscow now. Am I right?

Rochard 06-23-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19682962)
the US gov spends BILLIONS of $$$$ on fucking spying other countries BUT when one of their own SPIES gives up some info its ESPIONAGE Espionage

Not a double standard at all; This is exactly what espionage is. It's perfectly legal for the US to spy on other countries, but if you take confidential and classified information and publically disclose it... This is a crime.

dyna mo 06-23-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19683160)
Not a double standard at all; This is exactly what espionage is. It's perfectly legal for the US to spy on other countries, but if you take confidential and classified information and publically disclose it... This is a crime.

that poster is a nutter.

he'll spin a birthday thread into some bizarre backwards view on america.

although it is cute how he thinks america is the only spy game in the world. dude prolly thinks we invented it to.


espionage is french.

GAH 06-23-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19683160)
It's perfectly legal for the US to spy on other countries.

Despite feigned outrage over the use of "illegal" surveillance techniques employed under the Bush administration, in the follow up to this week's news of a massive government surveillance system, revelations have come forth regarding President Obama's role in not only the expansion of existing surveillance methods but also of the codification of laws that permit the violation of Americans' civil liberties.

Ever since the Nixon administration broke into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychoanalyst's office, the tactic of the US government has been to attack and demonize whistleblowers as a means of distracting attention from their own exposed wrongdoing and destroying the credibility of the messenger so that everyone tunes out the message. That attempt will undoubtedly be made with Snowden.

Director of National Intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., defended the legality of the top-secret government surveillance program, PRISM, under Section 702 of FISA, as approved by Congress in 2008.

Therefore, prior to that, any illegal surveillance is criminal.

onwebcam 06-23-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19681746)
To date we haven't seen anything illegal. These taps all have warrants, and aren't aimed at US citizens.

FISC Will Not Object To Release of 2011 Court Opinion That Confirmed NSA?s Illegal Surveillance
June 13 2013 - By Sreeja VN

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or FISC, ruled Wednesday that it has no objection to the release of a 2011 opinion of the court, which found that some of the National Security Agency?s surveillance programs under the FISA Amendments Act, were unconstitutional.

A 2011 FISC court ruling had concluded that some of the NSA?s surveillance programs had violated sections of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, a law aimed at protecting American citizens from surveillance programs targeted at foreigners.

continues:
http://www.ibtimes.com/fisc-will-not...llance-1305023


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