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  • onwebcam
    Fake Nick 1.0
    • Oct 2005
    • 27689

    #1

    Evan Obama's friends are turning against him

    Bill Ayers: Obama should be tried for war crimes

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  • tony286
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    • Aug 2002
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    #2
    Its shame they weren't friends but on a board together.

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    • globofun
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      • Aug 2005
      • 2651

      #3
      Evan is Barack's brother....or cousin?
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      • beerptrol
        Confirmed Asshole
        • Feb 2003
        • 12722

        #4
        What did Evan do to make his friends turn on him?
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        • DWB
          Registered User
          • Jul 2003
          • 31779

          #5
          Some US presidents should be tried for war crimes.

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          • Ferus
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            • Feb 2013
            • 4108

            #6
            EvanObama.com not taken :O - not a bad pornstar alias

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            • Rochard
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              • Dec 2001
              • 75733

              #7
              Why do they say this about every president? They did with Bush too. Perhaps they don't know what a war crime really is.
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              • _Richard_
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2006
                • 30991

                #8
                Originally posted by Rochard
                Why do they say this about every president? They did with Bush too. Perhaps they don't know what a war crime really is.
                well.. generally people go by precedent

                if you look at what people were killed for during the Nuremberg trials, you can understand a little more about why the 'war criminal' word gets passed around, and why bush is regulated to travelling to Alberta

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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rochard
                  Why do they say this about every president? They did with Bush too. Perhaps they don't know what a war crime really is.
                  Or they just like throwing catch phrases around.

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                  • Tofu
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    Or they just like throwing catch phrases around.
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                    • _Richard_
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                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30991

                      #11




                      'throwing catchphrases around'

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                      • deltav
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                        • May 2010
                        • 1243

                        #12
                        Not that Abu Ghraib was ideal by any stretch (and obviously there could have been more prosecutions coming out of the whole thing), but it was Disneyland compared to what goes on behind the scenes in most major conflicts.
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                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 38323

                          #13
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                          • Grapesoda
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 46238

                            #14
                            Originally posted by _Richard_




                            'throwing catchphrases around'
                            tell ya what... why don't you book a stay in the Iranian prison for a few weeks and see how that works for ya

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                            • _Richard_
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 30991

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              tell ya what... why don't you book a stay in the Iranian prison for a few weeks and see how that works for ya
                              oh. so because the iranians are doing it, you can too?

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                              • MaDalton
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                                • Feb 2004
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                tell ya what... why don't you book a stay in the Iranian prison for a few weeks and see how that works for ya
                                tell ya what - stop invading countries to "liberate" them and bring them freedom and democracy then - also called "american values"
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                                • deltav
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                                  • May 2010
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by _Richard_
                                  oh. so because the iranians are doing it, you can too?
                                  Dude, enough with the throwaway one-liners.

                                  The point is - as distasteful & inhumane as Abu Graib was - that kind of stuff is unfortunately not out of the ordinary, so all this talk of Charge Bush With War Crimes is just silly. If we could go thru a list of individuals who've been actually charged & convicted of such in the 20th century and look at their deeds, you'd see there's absolutely no comparison.
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                                  • Tom_PM
                                    Porn Meister
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 16443

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by deltav
                                    Dude, enough with the throwaway one-liners.

                                    The point is - as distasteful & inhumane as Abu Graib was - that kind of stuff is unfortunately not out of the ordinary, so all this talk of Charge Bush With War Crimes is just silly. If we could go thru a list of individuals who've been actually charged & convicted of such in the 20th century and look at their deeds, you'd see there's absolutely no comparison.
                                    In the pre-Bush years it was entirely, 100%, completely out of the ordinary. Bush was a cockmunch, just accept it like everyone else has.
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                                    • baddog
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                      tell ya what... why don't you book a stay in the Iranian prison for a few weeks and see how that works for ya
                                      That is why I had to put him on ignore. His logic that somehow that is sufficient evidence to convict the president of war crimes.

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                                      • deltav
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2010
                                        • 1243

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                        In the pre-Bush years it was entirely, 100%, completely out of the ordinary. Bush was a cockmunch, just accept it like everyone else has.
                                        Oh yes, Bush was repulsive & left both the USA & the world in a worse place than before he was elected, no arguments there. And as I mentioned, Abu Ghraib was fucked up both morally & legally.

                                        But again it's the silly Bush-is-guilty-of-War-Crimes chorus that's annoying. Look at those that have actually been convincted of them by international courts and you'll see what actually constitutes "war crimes".
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                                        • _Richard_
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 30991

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by deltav
                                          Dude, enough with the throwaway one-liners.

                                          The point is - as distasteful & inhumane as Abu Graib was - that kind of stuff is unfortunately not out of the ordinary, so all this talk of Charge Bush With War Crimes is just silly. If we could go thru a list of individuals who've been actually charged & convicted of such in the 20th century and look at their deeds, you'd see there's absolutely no comparison.
                                          it's not a one liner, it's an example of how the argument is reserved for children

                                          and 'as distasteful and inhumane' abu graib was, there is documentated proof those orders came directly from the Secretary of Defense, and these crimes don't stop there

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                                          • _Richard_
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2006
                                            • 30991

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            That is why I had to put him on ignore. His logic that somehow that is sufficient evidence to convict the president of war crimes.
                                            http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?...4&jumival=8348

                                            Bush Convicted of War Crimes at Tribunal
                                            time for you to post some more shots of food i think.

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                                            • onwebcam
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                                              • Oct 2005
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                                              #23
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                                              • purecane
                                                Annakin Skywalker
                                                • Jan 2013
                                                • 1324

                                                #24
                                                why does everyone blame presidents? they are just puppets....Obama this and Bush that, i'm just sick of hearing this horse shit. the fucking presidents job is to smile, shake hands, sign his name now and then, and maybe make a speech that was written by someone else and approved by the Kochs, the Rockefellers, or the Rothchilds....
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                                                • tonyparra
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                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                  • 4568

                                                  #25
                                                  The president of the usa doesnt have friends.

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                                                  • Rochard
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                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                    • 75733

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                    well.. generally people go by precedent

                                                    if you look at what people were killed for during the Nuremberg trials, you can understand a little more about why the 'war criminal' word gets passed around, and why bush is regulated to travelling to Alberta
                                                    I have books about the Nuremberg trials as well as DVDs.

                                                    Going to war in itself is not a crime - not in any shape or form. A war crime is intentionally murdering a civilian, or putting them into slave labor camps. The mere act of sending troops into a foreign country is not a war crime.
                                                    Herschel Savage
                                                    Brooklyn, NY

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                                                    • _Richard_
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 30991

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                      I have books about the Nuremberg trials as well as DVDs.

                                                      Going to war in itself is not a crime - not in any shape or form. A war crime is intentionally murdering a civilian, or putting them into slave labor camps. The mere act of sending troops into a foreign country is not a war crime.
                                                      so the drone program intentionally murders civilians.. justified by 'collateral damage'

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                                                      • DWB
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 31779

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                                        Perhaps they don't know what a war crime really is.
                                                        war crime

                                                        ? n
                                                        a crime committed in wartime in violation of the accepted rules and customs of war, such as genocide, ill-treatment of prisoners of war, etc

                                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                                        Why do they say this about every president? They did with Bush too.
                                                        http://www.salon.com/2011/02/07/bush_amnesty_arrest/

                                                        Bush cancels Europe trip amid calls for his arrest
                                                        Amnesty International and other groups asked Swiss authorities to investigate the former president for torture

                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...#War_on_Terror

                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

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                                                        • Rochard
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                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 75733

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          Or they just like throwing catch phrases around.
                                                          But that's a very dangerous thing when talking about crimes in general.

                                                          Did Bush order anyone to line up unarmed civilians and shot them? Nope. Did Bush order civilians to slave labor camps? Nope.
                                                          Herschel Savage
                                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                                          • _Richard_
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2006
                                                            • 30991

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                                            But that's a very dangerous thing when talking about crimes in general.

                                                            Did Bush order anyone to line up unarmed civilians and shot them? Nope. Did Bush order civilians to slave labor camps? Nope.
                                                            did bush hire mercenary companies to make those decisions for him?

                                                            Yes.

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                                                            • Tom_PM
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                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 16443

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by deltav
                                                              Oh yes, Bush was repulsive & left both the USA & the world in a worse place than before he was elected, no arguments there. And as I mentioned, Abu Ghraib was fucked up both morally & legally.

                                                              But again it's the silly Bush-is-guilty-of-War-Crimes chorus that's annoying. Look at those that have actually been convincted of them by international courts and you'll see what actually constitutes "war crimes".
                                                              It's natural to think that the only thing that needs to exist is an obvious crime, but there also needs to be a willingness to actually bring it.
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                                                              • Grapesoda
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 46238

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                                oh. so because the iranians are doing it, you can too?
                                                                you're so funny

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                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 46238

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                  tell ya what - stop invading countries to "liberate" them and bring them freedom and democracy then - also called "american values"
                                                                  you're so fucking high dude... you think the gov does what we want?

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                                                                  • _Richard_
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                    • 30991

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                    you're so funny
                                                                    and you have no clue what you're talking about

                                                                    you know why the iranian prisons are the way they are?

                                                                    you ever speak with anyone directly who has survived an iranian prison when it was british interests?

                                                                    i doubt it.

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