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jact 02-25-2003 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



not sure how to say "kiss my ass, im no newbie" without sounding offensive, lol

Dude, I've been watching you post and rant and rave for like two weeks now, you're the epitome of a newbie when it comes to tgp apparently. Listen to people's suggestions instead of telling me to kiss your ass.

jact 02-25-2003 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by jact


The content was fine, your selection of shots and poses was fucked up.

Let me elaborate on this so you don't get confused.

You're giving the surfer far too much, there's no tease, there's no "I need to see more of her!!!" so they arent' going to click through to your sponsor, they're going to move on to the next gallery, and when they find the one that makes their cock rock solid and their CC jump out of their pants, you'll have a sale.

Scoobs 02-25-2003 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



not sure how to say "kiss my ass, im no newbie" without sounding offensive, lol

Dude... that's where you're wrong... you ARE a fucking newbie... you can't make sales - you are promoting an amateur site with a chick that looks like a pro... you have a "day job"... I see you post lots of posts every single night on this board - most of the time you post crap. Stop wasting your time and either spend that time trying to make $$$ or spend it with your family!

No offense intended, but you need to wake up to yourself. We all have different skills... That's why you have a day job and most of the people on here do this full-time - because we are skilled at what we do.

As for starting in a new business with no working capital - don't get me started... do you think you would start a Mr. Whippy business without any cash to buy stock and the ice-cream van???

As I said, I don't mean to offend you, but too many people get into this biz thinking it's easy and takes nothing to start - they are wrong!

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by jact


The content was fine, your selection of shots and poses was fucked up.


i was only given 20 pics of her though, 100 pics total of 5 girls.

Kick Ass Chat 02-25-2003 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
nice fucking world i live in heh?

wake up 6am to go to work, get home near 3pm and hit the pc ... sit here until about 4am and get 2hrs of sleep for next day to do it all over again!

tear my relationship apart because "i dont spend any time" with her

family is on my ass because i "live like a fucking hermit"


boss is on my ass because i "always in a rush to hit the door"


and i got 0 sales to show for it!!



ahh fuck it


If this was my story, I think I would give it up??...Your wasting 1/2 your life away and for nothing, and ruining your family???...
This biz is not for everyone, as you are Living proof of this??...
I'm not being mean, just responding to you own self admitted failure.:2 cents: In this biz, if your spending 10+ hours a day, and not making atleast 10 sign ups or sales of something, your totally wasting your time. Well thats just my opinion.:2 cents:

MuleScrote 02-25-2003 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
nice fucking world i live in heh?

wake up 6am to go to work, get home near 3pm and hit the pc ... sit here until about 4am and get 2hrs of sleep for next day to do it all over again!

tear my relationship apart because "i dont spend any time" with her

family is on my ass because i "live like a fucking hermit"


boss is on my ass because i "always in a rush to hit the door"


and i got 0 sales to show for it!!





ahh fuck it

Hmmm...story sounds familiar. But I work until 5pm and go to bed at 2am. I spend the evening with my family until my kids go to bed. Fortunately, I'm making enough to pay for a couple cars and cover the bills. Full time soon I hope.

So I get 4hrs of sleep :winkwink:

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by jact


Let me elaborate on this so you don't get confused.

You're giving the surfer far too much, there's no tease, there's no "I need to see more of her!!!" so they arent' going to click through to your sponsor, they're going to move on to the next gallery, and when they find the one that makes their cock rock solid and their CC jump out of their pants, you'll have a sale.

Ok i hear this alot, and for a long time i practiced it. I am going by this theory:
When selling cars, do you just show the buyer the hood and wait for him to put a down payment? You have to let him see the entire package, let him go for a test drive, feel the suspention! Then if he likes it he will whip the CC out.

If you look at the gallery, i could have left off the last 5 pics and made it a bit more "seductive" i supose, But im gambling on the surfur saying "man this chicks colon is fucking nice! I bet if i join i will see more colons!"

Id say "i could be wrong" but after checking my stats again, im pretty sure i am, lol

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by GirlsFrehahahahas



If this was my story, I think I would give it up??...Your wasting 1/2 your life away and for nothing, and ruining your family???...
This biz is not for everyone, as you are Living proof of this??...
I'm not being mean, just responding to you own self admitted failure.:2 cents: In this biz, if your spending 10+ hours a day, and not making atleast 10 sign ups or sales of something, your totally wasting your time. Well thats just my opinion.:2 cents:

ya know, your prolly absolutely correct. Maybe i am wasting my time and have been for a long ass time now, maybe im just not made for this. But i really do love it, and i want to do it full time, i just need it to meet me half way kinda, hope thats understandable.

But maybe your right, maybe im just fighting the inevitable.

Fletch XXX 02-25-2003 10:03 PM

Why even offer to help people like this?

These fuckers belong in video stores alphabetizing DVDs and talking about what Tarantino's gonna do next.

NoCarrier 02-25-2003 10:03 PM

His little girl wanted a poney. So porn business is like the Kwik-E-Mart for him.

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Why even offer to help people like this?

These fuckers belong in video stores alphabetizing DVDs and talking about what Tarantino's gonna do next.


very sensitive fletch, thanks pal

madthumbs 02-25-2003 10:04 PM

i only got 19 off of banners today :-(

jact 02-25-2003 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


Ok i hear this alot, and for a long time i practiced it. I am going by this theory:
When selling cars, do you just show the buyer the hood and wait for him to put a down payment? You have to let him see the entire package, let him go for a test drive, feel the suspention! Then if he likes it he will whip the CC out.

If you look at the gallery, i could have left off the last 5 pics and made it a bit more "seductive" i supose, But im gambling on the surfur saying "man this chicks colon is fucking nice! I bet if i join i will see more colons!"

Id say "i could be wrong" but after checking my stats again, im pretty sure i am, lol

You're suffering from TMGFCS (Too Much Goddamn Free Content Syndrome). It's not going to get them to sign up, well, not anyone who's been on the net more than 17 minutes and hasn't already gotten through the first four hun listings.

:2 cents:

Your text could use a little work too, make it more seductive and they'll click. Also really think about the sponsor you're pushing and the content you're using to push it with. I would have chosen a blondes or babes site to push her with vs an amateur site.

jact 02-25-2003 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Why even offer to help people like this?

These fuckers belong in video stores alphabetizing DVDs and talking about what Tarantino's gonna do next.

To try and avoid tomorrow's post about shitty conversions hopefully.

NoCarrier 02-25-2003 10:06 PM

People still post links to sponsors directly?!?! At least use a page where you will have your sponsor, and put a blur with different choices like free e-mail programs.


Don't link directly to sponsor. You are losing potential traffic.

Link to something like pleasuredvds.com/sponsor.html

gothweb 02-25-2003 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


Ok i hear this alot, and for a long time i practiced it. I am going by this theory:
When selling cars, do you just show the buyer the hood and wait for him to put a down payment? You have to let him see the entire package, let him go for a test drive, feel the suspention! Then if he likes it he will whip the CC out.

If you look at the gallery, i could have left off the last 5 pics and made it a bit more "seductive" i supose, But im gambling on the surfur saying "man this chicks colon is fucking nice! I bet if i join i will see more colons!"

Id say "i could be wrong" but after checking my stats again, im pretty sure i am, lol

Everything you need to know is hidden in this post.

1.) Porn isn't a car. Your customers don't want to drive a car for 10 years, they want to ejaculate *now*. If you help them do that, then what are they going to pay for?

2.) You are indeed wrong. You aren't making sales. Listen to people who know more than you.

stevo 02-25-2003 10:09 PM

My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific. Once you pick a niche, study it as much as possible. Find out what works for you. Search for tgp's that only post galleries specialized in that niche, dont just submit to the main broad tgps.

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
People still post links to sponsors directly?!?! At least use a page where you will have your sponsor, and put a blur with different choices like free e-mail programs.


Don't link directly to sponsor. You are losing potential traffic.

Link to something like pleasuredvds.com/sponsor.html

ya know i never thought of that until 2 days ago, someone showed me how he made this "middle page" between galleries and the sponsor.

The way his was setup i can see how it would help alot, it was a very tempting page linked directly to the join page.

That will be my next experiment.

NoCarrier 02-25-2003 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


ya know i never thought of that until 2 days ago, someone showed me how he made this "middle page" between galleries and the sponsor.

The way his was setup i can see how it would help alot, it was a very tempting page linked directly to the join page.

That will be my next experiment.

Yeah, and use a sponsor with console free tours. That way, if the surfer is not interested about the paysite, when he closes the page, he will see your previously opened page behind.

gothweb 02-25-2003 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by stevo
My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific. Once you pick a niche, study it as much as possible. Find out what works for you. Search for tgp's that only post galleries specialized in that niche, dont just submit to the main broad tgps.
That's what I said. Something cooler! :winkwink:

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


Everything you need to know is hidden in this post.

1.) Porn isn't a car. Your customers don't want to drive a car for 10 years, they want to ejaculate *now*. If you help them do that, then what are they going to pay for?

2.) You are indeed wrong. You aren't making sales. Listen to people who know more than you.


i respect your advice, mostly because your an experienced webmaster who didnt call me a newbie who belongs in a dvd store, lol

i will be trying alot of this stuff in my next gallery i make

FATPad 02-25-2003 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

But i really do love it, and i want to do it full time, i just need it to meet me half way kinda, hope thats understandable.


Nope. Not gonna happen.

Either go *GET* your money and sales or forget it. It's not meeting you anywhere.

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevo
My best advise to you is pick a different niche. Ive never had any luck with teen/amateur content. Too much competition. Switch over to Asian, Latina, Ebony, Mature, Movies, Pornstars or whatever floats your boat - pick something specific.

I really want to, problem is i wouldnt have content to suport my niche.

I will try to buy some cheap content for my next gallery, just to get me into a niche ... dunno how much help cheap content will be, but maybe it will get me listed.

Gman.357 02-25-2003 10:21 PM

No need to bitch.
Make the switch
to a different niche.
It can make you rich.

:1orglaugh

lil2rich4u2 02-25-2003 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
No need to bitch.
Make the switch
to a different niche.
It can make you rich.

:1orglaugh


gman.357

wanna grab my icq, we will talk about what you have to offer.

175171926

rdunn404 02-25-2003 10:26 PM

The soul of Spacedog will live forever...

Backov 02-25-2003 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by rdunn404
The soul of Spacedog will live forever...
I thought this was Spacedog?

MiLo 02-25-2003 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by madthumbs
i only got 19 off of banners today :-(
http://www.monster.com :winkwink:

gothweb 02-25-2003 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



i respect your advice, mostly because your an experienced webmaster who didnt call me a newbie who belongs in a dvd store, lol

i will be trying alot of this stuff in my next gallery i make

Me, experienced? I wouldn't say that. I just said what everyone else was saying, more nicely.

Snake Doctor 02-25-2003 10:41 PM

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/gallerie...how/index.html

Here's Lenny's free gallery advice for the day.
You're using the word free too much. That used to work back in the day when free was rare, but everyone says free now so I think most TGP surfers ignore it. Try using sales text that tells the surfer what's unique about the site you're selling, and how its different and stands out from all of the other crap he's joined before.
Shit like free membership or 100,000 pics or 1000gigs of MPEGS just doesn't pull the clicks anymore. You need to find a "hook", an angle that you use to sell a site from.

The eye moves from left to right, not up and down. Think about that for awhile. Once you grasp that concept it will multiply your sales exponentially.

Fletch XXX 02-25-2003 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



very sensitive fletch, thanks pal

Why should I have any sympathy for you?

I cant care any less.

Fletch XXX 02-25-2003 10:49 PM

Its people who walk around thinking other owe them something thats the main problem.

Whining on a board, sure thats gonna help.

Complaining to a bunch of other people about your problems, yeah that helps.

hahaha

either pick up a drug habit or move back in with mommy.

Fletch XXX 02-25-2003 10:50 PM

And if you dont have a drug habit, that <i> could</i> be the problem.

:smokin

wethoney 02-25-2003 10:51 PM

What is your site address anyways? I don't even know what site you are talking about... :1orglaugh

NoCarrier 02-25-2003 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by wethoney
What is your site address anyways? I don't even know what site you are talking about... :1orglaugh
http://www.Andifyoudonthaveadrughabi...eproble m.com

Fletch XXX 02-25-2003 10:56 PM

i firmly believe smoking herbs helps increase sales.

give it a try.

Snake Doctor 02-25-2003 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier


http://www.Andifyoudonthaveadrughabi...eproble m.com

Your site is down :winkwink:

McAttack 02-25-2003 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Nope. Not gonna happen.

Either go *GET* your money and sales or forget it. It's not meeting you anywhere.

Couldn't be any truer. You got to go out and GET that money, if you think you've done everything you can and you have no money, then you DIDN'T do it right, you gotta pull back, re-evaluate your strategy and hit it again.

Ramster 02-25-2003 11:04 PM

Why keep pushing only TGP? Are you making free sites you can submit to Link-O-Rama, Richards and the many other link lists that allow more advertising for you to work with?

Just doing TGP when you don't know the game is suicide.

horns 02-25-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



I really want to, problem is i wouldnt have content to suport my niche.

I will try to buy some cheap content for my next gallery, just to get me into a niche ... dunno how much help cheap content will be, but maybe it will get me listed.

Ok, nice first. Dude, you can get plenty of content from your sponsors, it's free, and most importantly it COMES FROM THE SITE YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL.

Lenny & Gothweb are giving you good advice here. No one is going to hold your hand and show you EXACTLY how to do it though.

To be blunt, your text sucks. Plus, they aren't even links.

Now I'll be a bit nicer and tell you a hint - a surfer can get to the last pic on your gallery, view it, hit the back button, and never even see your bottom link, assuming that he doesn't just close the browser anyway.

Finally, if you are intent on TGPing, pay more attention to what seems to be selling. TGP's can be GREAT money makers if you can figure out the game. I did - second hint - promote sites that aren't overexposed and commercial.


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