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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184
    #106
    Originally posted by CyberSEO
    I pay 6% tax from my earnings and it covers it all. Unemployed people pay zero and the also have the same level of free medicine here. How much do YOU pay for it?
    here's an example of your free healthcare:

    When Karen Papiyants lost his leg in a road accident last year, his medical nightmare was only beginning.

    Although like any Russian he was entitled to free treatment, he says the doctors strongly suggested he pay $4,500 into their St. Petersburg hospital's bank account, or be deprived proper care - and perhaps not even survive.

    Faced with that choice, relatives of the 37-year-old truck driver scrambled to scrape together the money. But Papiyants said that did not stop the nursing staff from leaving him unattended for most of the night and giving him painkillers only after he screamed in agony.

    "It's nothing but blackmail and extortion on the part of doctors," Papiyants said.

    wow, what a fantastic free system, you russians should be proud.

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      • dyna mo
        just a fucking jerk
        • Dec 2008
        • 68184
        #107
        Originally posted by CyberSEO
        Dude, this is not a thread about the US healthcare. This is a thread about the whole world. So you better smoke a cigg (sorry I don't smoke) or drink a jerrycan of cheap whiskey and shut the fuck up already. Let the people say for their own countries. Try to relax.
        you're the one who compared. i just got to the gist of your bullshit.

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          • just a punk
            So fuckin' bored
            • Jun 2003
            • 32393
            #108
            Originally posted by dyna mo
            wow, what a fantastic free system, you russians should be proud.
            That's just some sci-fi story. Enjoy reading it
            Obey the Cowgod

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              • just a punk
                So fuckin' bored
                • Jun 2003
                • 32393
                #109
                Originally posted by dyna mo
                i just got to the gist of your bullshit.
                Quote my bullshit please.
                Obey the Cowgod

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184
                    #110
                    more on fab russia healthcare::::::

                    Medical care in Russia is among the worst in the industrialized world. A 2000 World Health Organization report ranked Russia's health system 130th out of 191 countries, on a par with such nations as Peru and Honduras.

                    This is one of the few nations in the world where life expectancy has declined sharply in the past 15 years. The average Russian can expect to live only to age 66 - at least a decade less than in most Western democracies, according to a 2005 World Bank report. For men, the figure is closer to 59 - meaning many Russian men do not live long enough to start collecting their pension at age 60.

                    Compounded by alcoholism, heart disease claims proportionately more lives than in most of the rest of the world. Death rates from homicide, suicide, auto accidents and cancer are also especially high.



                    wtg russia health care !!

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                      • breezy_cb
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 31
                        #111

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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184
                            #112
                            low quality and bribes- the hallmarks of russia healthcare

                            According to a summer 2006 study commissioned by the group, 13 percent of 1,502 respondents who had sought medical help during the previous year had to pay an average of $90 under the table, out of wages averaging $480 a month. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points.

                            Panfilova also said medical and pharmaceutical companies routinely bribed health officials so that hospitals bought their equipment and medicines, even though their quality is often not the best.

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                              • just a punk
                                So fuckin' bored
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 32393
                                #113
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                more on fab russia healthcare::::::
                                LOL. Where did you get that? I live in Russia and I'm telling you about things here. Do you want to say I'm a liar or what? Please go on, shoot it straight, I'm not a lady.
                                Obey the Cowgod

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                                  • dyna mo
                                    just a fucking jerk
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 68184
                                    #114
                                    here's putin's view on russia health care system:::::


                                    "Life expectancy in our country is 8-10 years lower than in neighboring European countries, the death rate from cardiovascular diseases is 4-5 times higher," Putin said.
                                    The premier said a quarter of Russian hospitals were in very poor conditions, adding that 30% had no running hot water, let alone medical equipment, whose term of service is often expired.
                                    All this added to meager wages and excessive management staff contributes to the poor quality of health care in Russia, he said.

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                                      • dyna mo
                                        just a fucking jerk
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 68184
                                        #115
                                        more::

                                        Two decades after the Soviet collapse, Russia's constitution still guarantees free medical care for everyone. But many Russians say their country is actually segregated between a lucky few who can afford good medical care in private clinics and the vast majority who are left with almost no safety net -- or are forced to make side payments to doctors to get care.

                                        In many regions, crumbling hospitals rely on Soviet-era equipment. Even in Moscow, many hospitals don’t even have air conditioners to stave off the summer heat.

                                        Natalia (who did not want to give her last name) is a nurse at a top state ophthalmology institute. She maintains that in most cases there are two levels of care: free and paid-for.

                                        "The free procedures are ones patients don’t need," she says. "Anything that concerns life-threatening conditions costs a fee."

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                                          • just a punk
                                            So fuckin' bored
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 32393
                                            #116
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            low quality and bribes- the hallmarks of russia healthcare
                                            Oh bribes... These is a special case in our culture. However you can't give a bribe to a doctor because he/she is not a policeman, a government employee etc. Please read the definition of "bribe" again.

                                            Here s my story of "bribes". Just two moths ago I wanted to remove 3 moles on my chest and came to a commercial (paid) clinic. Showed them to a doctor (paid nothing for a visit) and asked how much it will cost to remove them. He said: 2000 rubles (about $60) if I pay him directly, otherwise I have to pay the clinic price which is about two times bigger. And yes, I gave him a $60 "bribe" for removing of my moles. So I'm a fucking criminal and a bad guy now, I know it

                                            This is how paid medicine works here in Russia. OMFG!!!
                                            Last edited by just a punk; 06-11-2013, 06:06 AM.
                                            Obey the Cowgod

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                                              • just a punk
                                                So fuckin' bored
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 32393
                                                #117
                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                "Life expectancy in our country is 8-10 years lower than in neighboring European countries, the death rate from cardiovascular diseases is 4-5 times higher," Putin said.
                                                Putin is an idiot. Life expectancy in Moscow now is absolutely equal to the EU. This should be a big surprise for both you and Putin
                                                Obey the Cowgod

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                                                  • pimpmaster9000
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2011
                                                    • 26732
                                                    #118
                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                    more::

                                                    Two decades after the Soviet collapse, Russia's constitution still guarantees free medical care for everyone. But many Russians say their country is actually segregated between a lucky few who can afford good medical care in private clinics and the vast majority who are left with almost no safety net -- or are forced to make side payments to doctors to get care.

                                                    In many regions, crumbling hospitals rely on Soviet-era equipment. Even in Moscow, many hospitals don?t even have air conditioners to stave off the summer heat.

                                                    Natalia (who did not want to give her last name) is a nurse at a top state ophthalmology institute. She maintains that in most cases there are two levels of care: free and paid-for.

                                                    "The free procedures are ones patients don?t need," she says. "Anything that concerns life-threatening conditions costs a fee."



                                                    Im sure if I google stuff like "US healtcare criticism" I wont find any of the 314,000,000 results

                                                    an american found something wrong with another countries free health care and has proven beyond all doubt that overpriced US rip off health care is better (if you have insurance of course)

                                                    dude you are so desperate to not admit that your asshole is not a 2 way street but the health care dick is deeeeeeep inside your anus already...
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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184
                                                        #119
                                                        Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                        Putin is an idiot. Life expectancy in Moscow now is absolutely equal to the EU. This should be a big surprise for both you and Putin
                                                        well, the surprise is your's, russia is up from ~130th to 119th of countrys by life expectancy.

                                                        congrats though, you are no longer at the bottom of the list with 3rd world countries
                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ion_.282011.29


                                                        keep drinking your own kool aid splashed with vodka.

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                                                          • dyna mo
                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                            • 68184
                                                            #120
                                                            Originally posted by crucifissio


                                                            Im sure if I google stuff like "US healtcare criticism" I wont find any of the 314,000,000 results

                                                            an american found something wrong with another countries free health care and has proven beyond all doubt that overpriced US rip off health care is better (if you have insurance of course)

                                                            dude you are so desperate to not admit that your asshole is not a 2 way street but the health care dick is deeeeeeep inside your anus already...
                                                            try and keep up.
                                                            you missed my post where i mentioned i have a pre-existing condition and am very aware of the clusterfuck of american health care.

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