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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #76
    who knew Serbia was such a paradise. apparently Cuba has cured lung cancer and many other terminal diseases.

    post links to this lung cancer vaccine and these other Cuban miraculous medical treatments nobody else in the world knows about other than Serbians.
    I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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    • femdomdestiny
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2007
      • 5182

      #77
      Originally posted by Bman
      Uhmm your in euro right?
      Well in the USA that would have been around $5,000 to $10,000 USD to do the same

      50 euro? come on man
      no,it was free.I am also having complete health care free as unemployed (need to write one document every year that I don't have a work).I am just saying that they asked 50 eur more for better service ,privately. That sucks and that is very dangerous thing (what will happen when you need hearth surgery). Personally, idea of paying for medicine and health care is sign of low level of humanity and civilization. Maybe because I am coming from place where it was free for all but even that I am not from there, we are all humans and need to be treated like that. Idea that you can live if you have to pay is terrible and as I am concerned, equal to some apocalyptic movie scenario.
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      • femdomdestiny
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2007
        • 5182

        #78
        Originally posted by Mutt
        who knew Serbia was such a paradise. apparently Cuba has cured lung cancer and many other terminal diseases.

        post links to this lung cancer vaccine and these other Cuban miraculous medical treatments nobody else in the world knows about other than Serbians.
        Nothing will help your ignorance, but I will anyway ,paste you few links:

        http://english.blic.rs/Society//8695...Serbia-in-2013

        http://www.expatserbia.com/news-a-ev...ncer-in-serbia

        I wasn't pasting non-English resources because I guess that someone with that attitude will probably deny it as propaganda, lie, or ...like you said with irony" paradise". Also, you should know that same vaccine later went to testing in UK. Hopefully, UK is good enough for you to accept it.
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        • escorpio
          I love to racism, bro!
          • Oct 2002
          • 23487

          #79
          Originally posted by Robbie
          Brother, if we could get the govt to stop allowing Big Pharma and the Medical Industry to price gouge the fuck out of us... we wouldn't NEED "Universal Health Care".

          We could all just afford to pay for it ourselves...just like we did for a couple of hundred years.

          The price gouging here in the U.S. is outrageous and the govt. hasn't addressed that problem at all.

          If Canadian pharmacies and doctors were allowed to charge what they do here in the U.S. you guys would be bankrupt in no time.
          You are 100% correct. Price gouging is the root of the problem in the USA. I went to the ER with an anxiety attack about 15 years ago. I was seen for less than 10 minutes, given Xanax and charged $900.
          Unvaxxed, still alive.

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          • Bman
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2003
            • 1679

            #80
            Originally posted by escorpio
            You are 100% correct. Price gouging is the root of the problem in the USA. I went to the ER with an anxiety attack about 15 years ago. I was seen for less than 10 minutes, given Xanax and charged $900.
            Did that give you another anxiety attack?
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            • _Richard_
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2006
              • 30991

              #81
              Originally posted by Mutt
              who knew Serbia was such a paradise. apparently Cuba has cured lung cancer and many other terminal diseases.

              post links to this lung cancer vaccine and these other Cuban miraculous medical treatments nobody else in the world knows about other than Serbians.
              they managed to have female doctors long before the US did

              or you need proof for that too?

              birds of a feather indeed. wow.

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              • femdomdestiny
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2007
                • 5182

                #82
                Originally posted by Bman
                Did that give you another anxiety attack?
                lol...that is insane, really..but maybe it is good thing to avoid hypochondria?

                and about that vaccine. Hopefully no one of us will need it but Cuban embassy in Serbia is giving precise information how to get it (until it is produced in Serbia). It is free for Cubans, and there is a way for foreigners to get it. Bookmark this page, it can save someone's life:

                http://www.cubadiplomatica.cu/serbia...9/Default.aspx
                Last edited by femdomdestiny; 06-10-2013, 04:42 PM.
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                • escorpio
                  I love to racism, bro!
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 23487

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Bman
                  Did that give you another anxiety attack?
                  Didn't give me another attack but it didn't help. Part of the stress I was experiencing at the time was financial.
                  Unvaxxed, still alive.

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                  • Barry-xlovecam
                    It's 42
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 18083

                    #84
                    America is the world leader in crack babies ...

                    Infant mortality ...

                    Probably, if we ignore babies born into poverty-stricken families the infant mortality rate would no look so bad in the USA -- that's a tragedy in itself.

                    Ignoring the health delivery quality of the uninsured with only emergency access to critical healthcare -- again the average healthcare in the USA would look pretty good as compared to the rest of the world.

                    But reasonable healthcare access should be a right here and not privilege of the "overclass" that can afford it.

                    Curative advances in Nanomedicine are showing great promise, if regulated in an egalitarian way and offered to all citizens based on need and not ability to pay, could dramatically lower cancer and other complex disease treatment costs freeing up money spent on this that could be used for preventive medicine.

                    Unfortunately, they are selling stocks and EFTs in Nanomedicine research firms creating the next big-pharma and continuing the the mess we have today.

                    Healthy people make money so that makes this a real paradox I guess?
                    Last edited by Barry-xlovecam; 06-10-2013, 05:18 PM.

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                    • Shagbunny
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3028

                      #85
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      Number of citizens would be at least as relevant; go ahead and include both.
                      baddog, you're the typical US moron.

                      Believes in zombie Jesus = YES
                      Believes in Unversal Health Care = NO

                      Idiots.

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                      • Bman
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1679

                        #86
                        Can anybody let me know if any of the States have a Universal Health Care plan?

                        Shouldnt Health Care be the responsibility of the State's and not the Fed?

                        In Canada you dont pay anything to the Canadian Government it is all to the Provincial Government (State) ....it is just a federal law that says the Provinces must provide it.

                        Quick Fact- Kiefer Sutherland's Grandfather is the guy who made it law in Canada...
                        ICQ 228211529

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                        • Bman
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1679

                          #87
                          Originally posted by eroticfem
                          I don't have to pay anything monthly we have all the free healthcare we need.
                          Nothing is free
                          ICQ 228211529

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                          • pimpmaster9000
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 26732

                            #88
                            Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                            I don't think these are best things to compare. Cuba is socialistic country (which means
                            that good of all people is most important value ) and they have some of best health care system in the world because big companies couldn't access them because their isolation.

                            Since you are from Serbia, you know how often people from here go to Cuba to be cured for most incredible things not available to rest of the world. Also, you know probably that soon lung cancer vaccine will be made in Serbia under supervision and licence from Cuban doctors (delayed for years, my guess is because of big companies since people from around the world will hear and start spreading). They have technology that lung cancer treat as any other illness and stop it not to spread and save patient life.

                            Recent example is one of Serbian famous actors that was almost dead and with gangrena and with stroke, recently came from Cuba and now filming new series in age of 80 and everyone thought he was practically dead before he went there. These are just small examples of how advanced Cubans are in medical research and health care.

                            Also, Serbia is also not good example to compare because they are still using hospitals and system made during socialism. Two weeks ago I've came from Military Medical Academy (it is opened for civilians also)because my mom broke her leg. There was immediate operation, and care and it costed nothing. Job was done perfectly and professional without any additional costs. But VMA (medical military academy) is also left from socialism in a same way complete system works. You also know that this was state of the art hospital, mostly underground ready for chemical and biological warfare and that Serbs made many such hospitals in different countries worldwide (as a business). On the other side, maybe there is low mortality rate with newborns but that is not covering complete situation where people are waiting for months or even year to get their turn on other free services. (we both know that free health system here is destroyed so people can make private business and earn big money).

                            So, maybe would be best to compare with countries that were not (are),socialistic....I don't know, for example. Germany,Norway,Italy....that would be interesting to see.
                            people in the USA wait for moths also...depends on the "level" of their insurance....my point was their whole medical system is a complete complete rip off and its so painfully obvious to see that its amusing to watch people defend it...
                            big western companies are slowly infiltrating every aspect of our healthcare and soon we wont be able to afford it anyway...


                            good luck trying to convince most americans about any other country making the cure for cancer but the USA...the brain wash is strong in the USA and north korea...you will never never never never convince them that our health care is just as good even if its free...95% of them think we have witch doctors and sacrificial chicken in our hospitals

                            you should get a load of their education system man I was in our 1st year middle school equivalent in a US school tests are like:

                            2+5=
                            a) potato
                            b) 7
                            c) 23987623926592346524398562439824365982465423975634 29875436

                            ok im exaggerating with the above but you get it LOL

                            everything is such a rip off there and we are being steered towards it with no choice shit I hope our conversion to "borg" takes as long as possible....
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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #89
                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                              people in the USA wait for moths also...depends on the "level" of their insurance....my point was their whole medical system is a complete complete rip off and its so painfully obvious to see that its amusing to watch people defend it...
                              big western companies are slowly infiltrating every aspect of our healthcare and soon we wont be able to afford it anyway...


                              good luck trying to convince most americans about any other country making the cure for cancer but the USA...the brain wash is strong in the USA and north korea...you will never never never never convince them that our health care is just as good even if its free...95% of them think we have witch doctors and sacrificial chicken in our hospitals

                              you should get a load of their education system man I was in our 1st year middle school equivalent in a US school tests are like:

                              2+5=
                              a) potato
                              b) 7
                              c) 23987623926592346524398562439824365982465423975634 29875436

                              ok im exaggerating with the above but you get it LOL

                              everything is such a rip off there and we are being steered towards it with no choice shit I hope our conversion to "borg" takes as long as possible....


                              peeps in america wait for months for medical depending in their level of insurance?

                              lolz

                              fyi, mutt is canadian. i'm american, i've already sent that cuban cancer link off to a family member with copd.


                              try and stay focused, you hate america, we get that, we really do, but you need to not get so wound up about it, you end up just writing a bunch of gibberish as you usually do.

                              but i guess that is due to the private american school you attended, instead of that distinguished bosnian uni we all hear about.

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                              • Barry-xlovecam
                                It's 42
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 18083

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Bman
                                Can anybody let me know if any of the States have a Universal Health Care plan?

                                Shouldnt Health Care be the responsibility of the State's and not the Fed?

                                In Canada you dont pay anything to the Canadian Government it is all to the Provincial Government (State) ....it is just a federal law that says the Provinces must provide it.

                                Quick Fact- Kiefer Sutherland's Grandfather is the guy who made it law in Canada...
                                No, each state will voluntarily set up pools of people to buy private insurance policies under the Affordable Healthcare Act (AKA:obamacare) https://www.google.com/search?q=Affo...Healthcare+Act or the Federal government will fill the function for non-participating states.

                                However this is, considering your point of view; a sellout or a compromise solution.

                                People on welfare (the "dole") receive taxpayer paid "Medicaid" at no cost to them and people over 65 receive Medicare old age medical benefits that they paid into over their working lives. Both are single payer medical insurance, State and Federal paid benefits but Medicare ( old age medical benefits ) has some deductible costs to recipients and some co-pays. Reimbursements to doctors, clinics and hospitals are considerably lower that what private insurance patients are charged.

                                So, we have this Byzantine payment schedule in the USA:
                                • Self paying patient: 100%
                                • Private insured patient: 50% - 70%* (negotiated contract price) (patient paid - federal subsidy at a sliding scale, up to $80K (AGI?) income (starting 2014)
                                • Medicare patient: 45%* (Federal government paid)
                                • Medicaid patient: 28%* (state paid federally subsidised (substantially))


                                *Approximate

                                Pretty fucked up healthcare delivery system ...
                                Last edited by Barry-xlovecam; 06-11-2013, 04:53 AM.

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