GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Why do Bruce Lee's fans insist he is the greatest fighter of all time? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1111128)

ctggls 06-01-2013 10:36 AM

I don't know why people give soooo much importance to UFC or MMA, some of that fights are definitely tricked.... I've read a book some time ago written by MMA fighter Bas Rutten and for the most part is silly crap that you can't really apply to a real fight (which in most part is not like MMA where only two guys fight .... you might try to hit one guy and in the same time his friend hits you with a bat in the head and you're got marks for life...).
Don't mess things: Bruce Lee, MMA, UFC because there a really different things... it's like asking which is better cams or babe sites...

Slappin Fish 06-01-2013 10:47 AM

Probably because he invented Jeet Kune Do the philosophy (do whatever it takes to win) that was the most influential in MMA.

Slappin Fish 06-01-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19649947)
I'm curious, exactly what "technique" do you think you are going to use in a "real fight" that is going to be superior to MMA? That myth was blown out of the water in the first few UFC's, where there were no rules and BJJ was proven to be the superior fighting style. Biting, eye gouging, and all of that other silly stuff was proven time and time again to not work, and there is no secret technique you are going to pull off in a no rules street fight that is going to help you against a trained MMA fighter, short of pulling out a weapon. You think you're going to kick an MMA fighter in the balls and that is your secret technique?

Things like soccer kicks, knees to a downed opponent's head, and most of all the headbutt are the most devastating fighting techniques that are generally banned from MMA (with the exception of some promotions in Brazil and Japan), and in a street fight an MMA fighter is going to use all 3 of those against you...

You forgot the most effective HEADBUTTS anyway most current MMA fighters would kick Bruce Lee's ass but if a basketball player single handedly invented the dunk and the alley oop regardless of Lebron james ability to out dunk him today he would still be seen as the greatest for having been able to transcend the limitations of his time.

MasterBlow 06-01-2013 11:11 AM

http://img.pandawhale.com/51139-bruce-lee-gif-IqD3.gif

http://img.pandawhale.com/51139-bruce-lee-gif-D0qF.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/174...k-norris-o.gif

Trust me, Bruce Lee is the greatest fighter of all time! Chuck Norris knows that!

blackmonsters 06-01-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19649603)
He has never seriously competed in martial arts.

Just because Sylvester Stallone beat Apollo Creed and Ivan Drago in the movies, does not make him a great boxer.

But to Bruce Lee fans, to even point out the lack of any prominent accomplishments in actual fighting competitions is tantamount to heresy.

Bruce Lee definitely had screen presence and charisma. But he was a skilled entertainer.

MMA has been around for 20 years now. Has there been a prominent MMA competitor whose primary discipline was Chinese kung fu? We've seen wrestlers, karate masters, muay thai and judo practitioners do well. But kung fu is nowhere to be seen.

You'd think that the Shaolin temple master would enter the UFC and use his "touch of death" to wipe everybody out. Nope.

Think of it like the Rocky Marciano fans, he was from a different era than Ali/Tyson/etc so the comparison is not really valid.

Another example :
No matter how much faster Usain Bolt is over Jesse Owens, Bolt will never be as "Big" as Owens was.

madm1k3 06-01-2013 11:26 AM

Great question, if Bruce Lee was such a great fighter why was he never UFC champion like Chuck Lidell?

Fuck all his books defining Jeet Kune Do, fuck all his demonstrations, fuck all the so called "experts" who give him any kind of credit. Everyone with half a brain knows that real fighting began at UFC 1 and settled the arguement on who's the best fighter.

Now I'm going to throw on my Affliction shirt and go train at my MMA gym above the taco bell (we used to call the gym a dojo but none of us knew what it meant). I am six months in and I already have two black belts so I'm pretty much a ninja. Hopefully I can get a fight at the local strip club in the next couple months, because everyone knows MMA records are the only thing that defines a fighter

Robbie 06-01-2013 11:35 AM

Never really thought about it before...but from what I have read about Bruce Lee, if he had lived long enough he probably would have studied Brazilan Jiu Jitsu as well and added it to his regimen.

And he probably would have been really good at it.

One thing is for sure, he became a famous "actor" because of his physical skills which were pretty remarkable. He was definitely a world class athlete and with his speed could have been one hell of a shoot wrestle guy too.

blackmonsters 06-01-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madm1k3 (Post 19650642)
Now I'm going to throw on my Affliction shirt and go train at my MMA gym above the taco bell (we used to call the gym a dojo but none of us knew what it meant). I am six months in and I already have two black belts so I'm pretty much a ninja. Hopefully I can get a fight at the local strip club in the next couple months, because everyone knows MMA records are the only thing that defines a fighter

In just six months?

Wow, anybody who was just six months into football wouldn't be worth a shit.
This martial arts thing really is magic.

:1orglaugh

Robbie 06-01-2013 11:40 AM

blackmonsters...I'm pretty sure that madm1k3 was joking around with his post. :)

Zarathustra 06-01-2013 11:47 AM

actually he was the "mixed" in mixed martial arts!

its like saying why is Einstein so dumb, he didnt even know HTML! And everyone knows HTML today!

DWB 06-01-2013 11:55 AM

I am 97% sure that most of the guys on GFY could take Bruce Lee in a street fight.

Robbie 06-01-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19650680)
I am 97% sure that most of the guys on GFY could take Bruce Lee in a street fight.

Hell yeah they could!
And on top of that, they are political experts, scientists, doctors...fuck, you name it and GFY'ers are experts at it! :pimp

Profits of Doom 06-01-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19650652)
Never really thought about it before...but from what I have read about Bruce Lee, if he had lived long enough he probably would have studied Brazilan Jiu Jitsu as well and added it to his regimen.

And he probably would have been really good at it.

One thing is for sure, he became a famous "actor" because of his physical skills which were pretty remarkable. He was definitely a world class athlete and with his speed could have been one hell of a shoot wrestle guy too.

A little known fact about Chuck Norris is he trained with the Gracie's in BJJ, and also with the Machado's for almost 30 years. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/4...cie-jiu-jitsu- I have no doubt that had Bruce Lee lived he would have definitely evolved his training to incorporate BJJ...

Some Guy 06-01-2013 12:34 PM

Lee's crushing defeat of martial arts master Wong Jack Man proves that he was a legit fighter and not just an entertainer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Jack_Man

Lee got his start fighting on the streets of Hong Kong. There's little doubt that he was a real fighter and a great one at that. Best that ever lived? Not by a long shot but he was still a force to be reckoned with and did a great deal for the world of martial arts.

mozadek 06-01-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19650680)
I am 97% sure that most of the guys on GFY could take Bruce Lee in a street fight.

:1orglaugh

eipstudios 06-01-2013 03:09 PM


eipstudios 06-01-2013 03:19 PM




eipstudios 06-01-2013 03:28 PM

Hmmm :disgust something looks familiar!!!

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/fi...ill-100662.jpg

http://www.cityonfire.com/wp-content...1020475105.jpg

http://www.angryasianman.com/images/...classics01.jpg

livexxx 06-01-2013 03:40 PM

It is pretty much widely known that any UFC / MMA fighter would get beaten by Zui Quan style, they even had to ban that style through their regs and rules, as they now ban fighters from being intoxicated before a fight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zui_Quan




eipstudios 06-01-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 19650893)
It is pretty much widely known that any UFC / MMA fighter would get beaten by Zui Quan style, they even had to ban that style through their regs and rules, as they now ban fighters from being intoxicated before a fight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zui_Quan





:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

eipstudios 06-01-2013 05:06 PM

Zui_Quan


livexxx 06-01-2013 05:21 PM

wasn't drunk enough

blackmonsters 06-01-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 19650893)
It is pretty much widely known that any UFC / MMA fighter would get beaten by Zui Quan style, they even had to ban that style through their regs and rules, as they now ban fighters from being intoxicated before a fight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zui_Quan





Da fUcK?

He just straight out cheated in the end by spitting alcohol in the dudes face.

:error
:1orglaugh

faxxaff 06-01-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19649603)
He has never seriously competed in martial arts.

Just because Sylvester Stallone beat Apollo Creed and Ivan Drago in the movies, does not make him a great boxer.

But to Bruce Lee fans, to even point out the lack of any prominent accomplishments in actual fighting competitions is tantamount to heresy.

Bruce Lee definitely had screen presence and charisma. But he was a skilled entertainer.

You could say Bruce Lee is the father of MMA. Seriously, he was the one to change Karate and other fighting sports in America in the 70ies. Ask Chuck Norris about his training with Bruce. He will tell you, he got his ass kicked!

BettingHandle 06-02-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19650680)
I am 97% sure that most of the guys on GFY could take Bruce Lee in a street fight.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...YOU-SO-MAD.jpg

John-ACWM 06-02-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19649702)
maybe on account his arms and legsmoved so fast they made whooshing noises?

:) everybody remembers that from his movies.

DWB 06-02-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettingHandle (Post 19651400)

uhhh... yea... I think so?

livexxx 06-02-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19651087)
Da fUcK?

He just straight out cheated in the end by spitting alcohol in the dudes face.

:error
:1orglaugh

Another banned move by MMA , see they are scared.

Robbie 06-02-2013 04:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that with the fighting style Bruce Lee was using in movies (striking) he would be destroyed by a modern day MMA fighter in the ring. (strikers rarely win)

But, as I said before...Bruce Lee died very young. If he had lived a few more years and incorporated a grappling style and Brazil Jiu Jitsu into his repertoire he could have kicked some serious ass in today's MMA.

As someone else already said...trying to say that Bruce Lee isn't a great fighter because of the style he used is like saying that Einstein was stupid because he didn't know HTML.

People work within their timeframe of history.

Put them all on the same timeframe and yes...I'd bet that with Bruce Lee's speed, physical ability and obvious drive to be the best that he would have mastered Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and made his mark in the UFC if he were 25 years old in 2013.

tony286 06-02-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19651899)
I'm pretty sure that with the fighting style Bruce Lee was using in movies (striking) he would be destroyed by a modern day MMA fighter in the ring. (strikers rarely win)

But, as I said before...Bruce Lee died very young. If he had lived a few more years and incorporated a grappling style and Brazil Jiu Jitsu into his repertoire he could have kicked some serious ass in today's MMA.

As someone else already said...trying to say that Bruce Lee isn't a great fighter because of the style he used is like saying that Einstein was stupid because he didn't know HTML.

People work within their timeframe of history.

Put them all on the same timeframe and yes...I'd bet that with Bruce Lee's speed, physical ability and obvious drive to be the best that he would have mastered Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and made his mark in the UFC if he were 25 years old in 2013.

The man had schools before making movies when he was no one. His own style takes from all forms of fighting, fencing boxing, wrestling. In alot of ways he was doing this before they gave it a name. Also fighting for entertainment is different than fighting for real life. It has to be big for the camera. I dont think no one person is the best , like the best guitar player its very subjective.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:07 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123