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  • LRS
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2011
    • 324
    #1

    Paxum.com Ripoff

    After being with the company for the past 3 years and having hundreds of transactions now the account is frozen, I uploaded a photo of the drivers license and now they refuse to unfreeze the funds and are now saying I need to do this..

    We have received the photo of your Drivers License, but as an additional security measure, we kindly ask you to take a photo of yourself holding the document.
    This photograph must be of high quality; all the text found on the document must be clearly visible and your face in the overall picture must be recognizable. The Photo ID that you are holding must not be cropped and all it's real margins must be visible.

    Upload this in Profile Settings >> Identity confirmation.
    I spoke on the phone with someone for 15 minutes and as usual offshore support sucks big time.. nothing they could do..I guess I would get better and faster results by mail or faxing managers or higher-ups because through email and by calling them is completely useless..

    does anyone know what to do because there is no fucking way in this world i'm going to take a picture of myself holding my drivers license for a company like this.
    Last edited by LRS; 05-27-2013, 12:11 AM.
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    • Socks
      Confirmed User
      • May 2002
      • 8475
      #2
      isn't your picture... on your license....

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        • EddyTheDog
          Just Doing My Own Thing
          • Jan 2011
          • 25433
          #3
          I have heard this before - I normally stick up for Paxum, but this ridiculous - A three year history and then this - Its too much...

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            • LRS
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2011
              • 324
              #4
              I completely understand if this is for a country like Nigeria or maybe if this is a first time thing when you're in the signup process but after being a customer for 3 years they come out with this bullshit no freaking way..
              Do You Google?
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                • fitzmulti
                  I Like Depth Of Field!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 14861
                  #5
                  What the hell is the big deal?
                  They aren't "ripping you off"...they are trying to verify your identification, to prevent YOU FROM being ripped off...
                  What if someone stole your DL & was trying to steal your dough, man?
                  You make it sound as if they stole some shit from you, when all they want to do is verify you are you!

                  Lame...


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                    • just a punk
                      So fuckin' bored
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 32393
                      #6
                      You will look like an XXX model on the 2257 docs. Will be "funny" if this picture will leak to the Internet...

                      There is no 100% secure things, because averything can be hacked. So you must be ready that every information you submit anywhere, can be compromised and become public.

                      Your Captain O.
                      Obey the Cowgod

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                        • LRS
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 324
                          #7
                          I have been using the same computer and the same IP address location for the past 3 years how can my account or password be compromised when it shows IP History Login in their home page?

                          if I logged in from a computer in India or something then sure thing.. but nothing has changed..
                          Last edited by LRS; 05-27-2013, 12:23 AM.
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                            • xNetworx
                              So Fucking What
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 14445
                              #8
                              It's to verify your identity. Duh. What's the big deal? That is hardly a rip off. Don't be a dick.

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                                • LRS
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 324
                                  #9
                                  your Bank will only freeze your funds if they find out you have been doing something wrong or bad that you did.. but no I have been a good customer and using this account with no problems now they freeze it for no reason whatsoever.. now tell me if this is normal because it is not here in the United States..
                                  Do You Google?
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                                    • adulttraffic
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 797
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by LRS
                                      After being with the company for the past 3 years and having hundreds of transactions now the account is frozen, I uploaded a photo of the drivers license and now they refuse to unfreeze the funds and are now saying I need to do this..



                                      I spoke on the phone with someone for 15 minutes and as usual offshore support sucks big time.. nothing they could do..I guess I would get better and faster results by mail or faxing managers or higher-ups because through email and by calling them is completely useless..

                                      does anyone know what to do because there is no fucking way in this world i'm going to take a picture of myself holding my drivers license for a company like this.
                                      Speak to someone higher up? Its their requirement and they are not going to bend the rules for you. Either do it or stop using them.
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                                        • LRS
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2011
                                          • 324
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by adulttraffic
                                          Speak to someone higher up? Its their requirement and they are not going to bend the rules for you. Either do it or stop using them.
                                          their rules? if this was a rule I would of not signed up in the first place.. it says

                                          (a) Valid Passport;
                                          (b) Valid Photo Card Driving License;
                                          (c) National Identity Card;
                                          (d) Valid Drivers License;


                                          IT DOESN'T SAY A PHOTO OF YOU HOLDING YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE!
                                          Do You Google?
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                                            • EddyTheDog
                                              Just Doing My Own Thing
                                              • Jan 2011
                                              • 25433
                                              #12
                                              I have just cancelled my last Paxum payment - They are asking too much...

                                              Its a shame because I like Ruth and the team.....

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                                                • Markul
                                                  Likes Pie
                                                  • Dec 2007
                                                  • 12403
                                                  #13
                                                  lol they will tell you it's for your protection, but it's for their own. They don't protect you in any way. At least I've asked in many threads and never once seen a real explanation of how exactly that is protecting you.

                                                  If they want to do a proper verification, then they'd do like paypal and go via a regular (real) bank.
                                                  But.... I pulled out...

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                                                    • AdultKing
                                                      Raise Your Weapon
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 15601
                                                      #14
                                                      A Romanian based organisation with thousands of copies of high resolution, unadulterated, unprotected, colour scans of identification of many hundreds of people. What could possibly go wrong ?

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                                                        • Adraco
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2009
                                                          • 3745
                                                          #15
                                                          I got that too one or two years ago. Not much to do but to comply if you want to continue using their service.
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                                                            • Markul
                                                              Likes Pie
                                                              • Dec 2007
                                                              • 12403
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                              A Romanian based organisation with thousands of copies of high resolution, unadulterated, unprotected, colour scans of identification of many hundreds of people. What could possibly go wrong ?
                                                              But.... I pulled out...

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                                                                • just a punk
                                                                  So fuckin' bored
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 32393
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                  A Romanian based organisation with thousands of copies of high resolution, unadulterated, unprotected, colour scans of identification of many hundreds of people. What could possibly go wrong ?
                                                                  My thoughts exactly
                                                                  Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                    • georgeyw
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                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                      • 9865
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                      A Romanian based organisation with thousands of copies of high resolution, unadulterated, unprotected, colour scans of identification of many hundreds of people. What could possibly go wrong ?
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                                                                        • LRS
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2011
                                                                          • 324
                                                                          #19
                                                                          If this was stated in their signup Policy or Terms Of Service.. or if my account was logged using a different ip addresses or if I'm getting new payments from new companies I would understand..

                                                                          nothing has changed for the past 3 years and now they hammer me to the wall and freeze my funds for now reason. I cannot touch them until I upload their "requested photo".. this is completely pointless.. they can just send a PIN to my home address and I will input that pin from the website, that way home address is confirmed like Google does with Adsense.. but oh way I already activated my VISA cards so home address is already verified..
                                                                          Do You Google?
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                                                                            • greg80
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2007
                                                                              • 1644
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I guess these are the rules if you want to do banking in Romania. If you don't want to bank in Romania, don't use paxum.
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                                                                                • just a punk
                                                                                  So fuckin' bored
                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                  • 32393
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  The funny thing is that the real scammer can easily circumvent this requirement using the id scans and image of the same adult model holding that license near his/her face. There are ton of leaked 2257 docs are floating on the Net circumvent

                                                                                  To sum it up. The mentioned measure does not protect from the scammers, but just annoys the loyal Paxum clients.
                                                                                  Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                                    • AllAboutCams
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                                                                                      • Jul 2011
                                                                                      • 12234
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      If they ask this from me im never using them again
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                                                                                        • RubyGoodnight
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2011
                                                                                          • 577
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Was this leak/hack/page error/whatever you would call it ever actually confirmed or denied by Paxum?
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                                                                                            • bluebook18
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                                                              • 4082
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I get an expiry notification on the 4th week of april on my paxum account that needs new ID to be updated. So i ask ruth about this and she said everything on how or what should i do. Ruth tells me also that they've given 6 weeks to update those expired ID's. So i rush to the government office to renew my expired ID's and after i get them i didn't upload yet in fact I've waited Ruth to go online so that she can assist me whatever needs to be. After i upload those ID's i get an confirmation of waiting 48hrs. to get verified without even asking too much like holding those documents and etc. So i get verified 2 days later i update my ID's and right now i can use my paxum account without worrying the limitation. Just contact Ruth first before updating your details and she can help you with that.

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                                                                                              Last edited by bluebook18; 05-27-2013, 03:04 AM.

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                                                                                                • ls101
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2012
                                                                                                  • 713
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Ask Ruth she help us a lot when Indian people ask me to do that!

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                                                                                                    • Lukke
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                      • 746
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I dont understand why do you have problem with photo holding your document.

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                                                                                                        • Harmon
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                          • 20012
                                                                                                          #27
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                                                                                                            • suesheboy
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                              • 5211
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Paxum needs to team up with another company(s) or bank(s) you can walk into for verification - even for a fee that the other company can keep.

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                                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                  • 47882
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  this same "problem" was brought up 100x already on here, where you living in a cave or something?

                                                                                                                  just send them the pic they requested and that should be the end of drama...

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                                                                                                                    • seeandsee
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                                                                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                      • 50945
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Just send them ID, if you already scanned and send them your id, why is problem to do that holding your id?
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                                                                                                                        • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                          • 6697
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lukke
                                                                                                                          I dont understand why do you have problem with photo holding your document.
                                                                                                                          It may be a cultural difference. Here in the US no one asks for such a thing. Especially after three years with the company. If my bank asked me for this I would drop them out of principle.

                                                                                                                          Was this leak/hack/page error/whatever you would call it ever actually confirmed or denied by Paxum?
                                                                                                                          After implying that the people reporting such a thing were liars or pranksters Ruth immediately left the thread as soon as real evidence was posted. My thought is that the breach was there and they were hoping to sweep it under the rug by dismissing it publicly as the fantasy of a bunch of drunk Russians. The cover-up is worse than the breach imo because it shows how people are treated.

                                                                                                                          If they ask this from me im never using them again
                                                                                                                          I'm sure one day they will. I think that's part of his issue here. He said he had an account for 3 years and now suddenly they want this.

                                                                                                                          That is why I don't do Paxum. They can suddenly come up with some arbitrary requirement before they will give me my money. It has the potential to disrupt your operations at the worst possible time and you will have no choice but to rollover for them. Next year who knows maybe they'll be asking you to write your SSN/ID # on your penis with a blue sharpie while hovering it over your passport in order to demonstrate that it isn't fake. If you don't they will hold your money for 90 days "for your protection" or something like this.

                                                                                                                          Were you notified of this requirement before or after your recent post about DG, LRS?
                                                                                                                          Last edited by signupdamnit; 05-27-2013, 03:58 AM.

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                                                                                                                            • Google Expert
                                                                                                                              Webmaster
                                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                              • 14294
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by LRS
                                                                                                                              I completely understand if this is for a country like Nigeria
                                                                                                                              you sound like a racist

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                                                                                                                                • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 94741
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Yeah, compliance is a total rip off ...

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                                                                                                                                    • Lukke
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 746
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                      It may be a cultural difference. Here in the US no one asks for such a thing. Especially after three years with the company. If my bank asked me for this I would drop them out of principle.
                                                                                                                                      If you have problem with it - simply stop using it.

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                                                                                                                                        • Markul
                                                                                                                                          Likes Pie
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 12403
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                                                                                          But.... I pulled out...

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                                                                                                                                            • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 13826
                                                                                                                                              #36
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                                                                                                                                                • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                  So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 32393
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                  this same "problem" was brought up 100x already on here, where you living in a cave or something?

                                                                                                                                                  just send them the pic they requested and that should be the end of drama...

                                                                                                                                                  or switch to bitcoins, heh






                                                                                                                                                  Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                                                                                                    • DWB
                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 31779
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                      A Romanian based organization with thousands of copies of high resolution, unadulterated, unprotected, color scans of identification of many hundreds of people. What could possibly go wrong ?


                                                                                                                                                      Having been a victim of identity theft twice, I cringe when I see these threads.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Manfap
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                                                                                                                          • 2626
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                          It may be a cultural difference. Here in the US no one asks for such a thing. Especially after three years with the company. If my bank asked me for this I would drop them out of principle.
                                                                                                                                                          A bank where you stand in front of the person, so they can see its you?

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                                                                                                                                                            • nikki99
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                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 23087
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              just do it what is the problem?
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                                                                                                                                                                • RuthB
                                                                                                                                                                  Let's Get Paxumized!
                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                  • 7248
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by LRS
                                                                                                                                                                  After being with the company for the past 3 years and having hundreds of transactions now the account is frozen, I uploaded a photo of the drivers license and now they refuse to unfreeze the funds and are now saying I need to do this..



                                                                                                                                                                  I spoke on the phone with someone for 15 minutes and as usual offshore support sucks big time.. nothing they could do..I guess I would get better and faster results by mail or faxing managers or higher-ups because through email and by calling them is completely useless..

                                                                                                                                                                  does anyone know what to do because there is no fucking way in this world i'm going to take a picture of myself holding my drivers license for a company like this.
                                                                                                                                                                  Hi LRS,

                                                                                                                                                                  Please get in touch with me and provide me your Paxum account username and any open ticket numbers so I can look into your situation for you.

                                                                                                                                                                  My email is [email protected]

                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks,
                                                                                                                                                                  Ruth
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                                                                                                                                                                    • globofun
                                                                                                                                                                      Buk Lau
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2651
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Romania?

                                                                                                                                                                      Aren't they in Montreal?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • fitzmulti
                                                                                                                                                                          I Like Depth Of Field!
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14861
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by RuthB
                                                                                                                                                                          Hi LRS,

                                                                                                                                                                          Please get in touch with me and provide me your Paxum account username and any open ticket numbers so I can look into your situation for you.

                                                                                                                                                                          My email is [email protected]

                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks,
                                                                                                                                                                          Ruth
                                                                                                                                                                          Which is EXACTLY what he should have done in the first place, rather than ANOTHER whiny GFY thread.
                                                                                                                                                                          Ruth, and the others here on GFY from Paxum are here to help you guys...
                                                                                                                                                                          And to bitch and moan, even before attempting to contact them first, is stupid.
                                                                                                                                                                          Yes...I called you stupid.
                                                                                                                                                                          Sue me.


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                                                                                                                                                                            • ajrocks
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 4526
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I think this is a security measure to satisfy mastercard. I wouldn't take it personally. I know many people that have had to do it, it isn't really a big deal.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Sly
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 31377
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  You are having a bad week.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 18478
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Instead of typing here just take a pic :-)
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sid70
                                                                                                                                                                                          Downshifter
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 16413
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by globofun
                                                                                                                                                                                          Romania?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Aren't they in Montreal?
                                                                                                                                                                                          Dafuk? My thoughts exactly.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              I notice a pattern. A lot of reps and program owners are saying "What's the big deal?" with many others complaining. I guess it isn't a big deal when you have a company paying you (as an employee) to do stuff like this or when you are running tens of thousands of dollars through them every month and paying hundreds of people. You expect this. OTOH, if you're just a regular affiliate or a small program collecting a few hundred or thousand a month through Paxum it can seem a little excessive depending on what you are used to.

                                                                                                                                                                                              You can say it's whining, but look, you can only say "The customer is always wrong" so many times. Someone is here complaining about Paxum every week. It's not without reason. People don't see this as normal and they are having problems. And I wonder how many people are afraid to say anything knowing that a bunch of reps will come on and call them whiners. A good business would look objectively at the criticism when it is this frequent.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by signupdamnit; 05-27-2013, 06:34 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                                                                                  You are having a bad week.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  But so is Paxum. Though it seems they are always having a bad week.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • LouiseLloyd
                                                                                                                                                                                                      SO FUCKING SCAMMED
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2010
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1432
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Markul
                                                                                                                                                                                                      lol they will tell you it's for your protection, but it's for their own. They don't protect you in any way. At least I've asked in many threads and never once seen a real explanation of how exactly that is protecting you.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If they want to do a proper verification, then they'd do like paypal and go via a regular (real) bank.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                                                                                                                                      A Romanian based organisation with thousands of copies of high resolution, unadulterated, unprotected, colour scans of identification of many hundreds of people. What could possibly go wrong ?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by RubyGoodnight
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Was this leak/hack/page error/whatever you would call it ever actually confirmed or denied by Paxum?
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