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Old 10-08-2013, 04:14 AM   #1
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If you owned the Silk Road where would you go?

If you were Dread Pirate Roberts where would you have been based?

Maybe France? I notice extraditing those guys is a huge pain in the ass. I think the former Soviet Republics would probably seize everything and send you back to the US if the price was rights. So, Don't think I would go there.

Where would you be?
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It does not matter who owns it or where they live its how it was setup that's the problem.
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i dont need to worry about that, i dont deal with drugs and weapons
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If I had it and had the money he supposedly had I would have cashed out and either sold the site or shut it down and went to live in the south of France. Getting extradited from France for non-violent crimes is very hard. I would spend my days soaking up the sun, checking out the babes on the beach and relaxing.
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Bolivia without a doubt.
Safe there for Gringos? I don't know much about it. I know they are a major coke exporter and I think they have some lithium mines. So maybe some nice upper and upper middles class areas?
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why? are they free where you live?
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well - not free - but legal (mostly)
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how they find his identity?
Supposedly.
He posted this under his real gmail name, then changed it to Frosty.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...ng-curl-in-php

He also ordered some fake ids and got busted picking them up. He was let got but people probably looking into that afterwards.

But I think the feds probably run alot of the TOR proxies.
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Prison.

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If I had it and had the money he supposedly had I would have cashed out and either sold the site or shut it down and went to live in the south of France. Getting extradited from France for non-violent crimes is very hard. I would spend my days soaking up the sun, checking out the babes on the beach and relaxing.
Smart move. people get caught because of greed more than anything. 2 million or 5 million is never enough.
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If I had it and had the money he supposedly had I would have cashed out and either sold the site or shut it down and went to live in the south of France. Getting extradited from France for non-violent crimes is very hard. I would spend my days soaking up the sun, checking out the babes on the beach and relaxing.
Sounds great. I have no idea why he kept going when he allegedly had all that cash stashed. Why not just sell and live life, greed I guess.
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Supposedly.
He posted this under his real gmail name, then changed it to Frosty.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...ng-curl-in-php

He also ordered some fake ids and got busted picking them up. He was let got but people probably looking into that afterwards.

But I think the feds probably run alot of the TOR proxies.
It looks like he was not a security or anonymity genius:

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According to the complaint, the Stack Overflow post served as key evidence for authorities trying to link Ulbricht to Silk Road. From the complaint:

Based on forensic analysis of the Silk Road Web Server, I know that the computer code ... includes a customized PHP strip based on 'curl' that is functionally very similar to the computer code described in Ulbricht's posting on Stack Overflow, and includes several lines of code that are identical to lines of code quoted in the posting.

Oh, and the encryption key on the Silk Road server ended with the substring "frosty@frosty." Whoops.
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A federal judge on Wednesday ordered a California man charged with operating a notorious online drug marketplace known as Silk Road to be sent to New York to face charges.

The order by U.S. Magistrate Judge Joseph Spero came during a brief court hearing in San Francisco for Ross Ulbricht. Federal authorities in New York have charged Ulbricht with three felonies related to the operation of the website.

Ulbricht?s attorney, public defender Brandon LeBlanc, has denied the charges.

Silk Road gained widespread notoriety two years ago as a black market bazaar where visitors could buy and sell drugs using bitcoins, a form of online cash. A so-called hidden site, Silk Road used an online tool known as Tor to mask the location of its servers.

Ulbricht agreed to remain in custody. Authorities have said Ulbricht operated the website under various aliases, including ?Dread Pirate Roberts?.

His attorney denied he used any aliases.

While many other sites sell drugs more or less openly, Silk Road?s technical sophistication, its user-friendly escrow system and its promise of near-total anonymity quickly made it among the best known.

The FBI shut down the site when they arrested Ulbricht on Oct. 1 at a small branch library in San Francisco as he chatted online with a ?cooperating witness,? according to authorities and court papers.

He is also charged in Baltimore federal court with soliciting the murder of a former worker who was arrested on drug charges. The indictment alleges Ulbricht feared the former worker would turn on him.

The FBI said Ulbricht unwittingly hired an undercover agent for the murder, which the FBI staged but never took place.

Prosecutors in New York have charged Ulbricht ? a native Texan who was living in San Francisco and holds degrees from the University of Texas and Penn State ? with trying unsuccessfully to solicit the murder of a Canadian man who allegedly hacked into Silk Road, obtained dealers names and began blackmailing Ulbricht.

FBI agents appear to have penetrated the behind-the-scenes operations of Silk Road and obtained a list of the sites users and sellers, court papers show.

In the following days, authorities in Britain, Sweden, and the United States arrested eight people who are charged with using the site to sell drugs. In Washington state, a man and a woman were arrested on charges of selling cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine through the now-shuttered website.

In the U.K., the country?s newly established National Crime Agency indicated more arrests were on the way.

?These latest arrests are just the start; there are many more to come,? said Keith Bristow, head of the agency.

In court papers, the FBI said it had managed to copy the contents of the site?s server ? something one expert said would likely provide international authorities with detailed information about the site?s dealers.

Silk Road?s eBay-style customer review system means that months? worth of sales history are now in law enforcement hands, according to a computer expert who studies bitcoins.

?Any large sellers on Silk Road should be very nervous,? said Nicholas Weaver, a researcher with the International Computer Science Institute in Berkeley and the University of California, San Diego.

The traceable nature of bitcoin transfers means the FBI ?can now easily follow the money,? Weaver said in an email.


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Sounds great. I have no idea why he kept going when he allegedly had all that cash stashed. Why not just sell and live life, greed I guess.
Because you cant exactly get rid of 80,000 in BTCs without raising major red flags and crashing the market.
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It's telling that some of you project your own "take the money and run" greed onto him.

He actually believed in what he was doing.
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It's telling that some of you project your own "take the money and run" greed onto him.

He actually believed in what he was doing.
Profiting from facilitating illegal activity such as drug dealing, child porn, etc (even allegations of a murder-for-hire scheme)...





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Profiting from facilitating illegal activity such as drug dealing, child porn, etc (even allegations of a murder-for-hire scheme)...





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Child porn is on the tor network, not on silkroad...
While, Silk Road was primarily involved with the illegal drug trade market, the site did have an active Erotica section, and there is speculation that CP was hosted on the same servers as Silk Road:

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The second interesting speculation surrounds the FBI?s claim that they acquired the details of the site from a friendly foreign legal jurisdiction where the servers actually were.

Informed comment around the place has this being taken as meaning the Freedom Hosting servers in Ireland. These were taken over back in August by law enforcement and run for some unknown period of time by them in order to gather more proof (and, it is said, to try to seed users? browsers with malware in order to be able to track them further).

The reason for the Freedom Hosting takeover was that it was home to some of the larger child porn sites on the net. That the Silk Road server is, or is being assumed to have been there, seems just a coincidence, but one which will of course have made the law enforcement agencies very happy indeed.
Source: Forbes

Remove the CP charges, and what do you have? Just illegal drug dealing, money-laundering, and other illegal activities such as the occasional murder-for-hire.







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It looks like he was not a security or anonymity genius:

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According to the criminal complaint, Ulbricht posted the question using his own real name. Less than one minute later, he changed his username to ?frosty.? And then, one assumes, banged his head against a hard wall several times.

According to the complaint, the Stack Overflow post served as key evidence for authorities trying to link Ulbricht to Silk Road. From the complaint:

Based on forensic analysis of the Silk Road Web Server, I know that the computer code ... includes a customized PHP strip based on 'curl' that is functionally very similar to the computer code described in Ulbricht's posting on Stack Overflow, and includes several lines of code that are identical to lines of code quoted in the posting.

Oh, and the encryption key on the Silk Road server ended with the substring "frosty@frosty." Whoops.
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Supposedly.
He posted this under his real gmail name, then changed it to Frosty.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...ng-curl-in-php

He also ordered some fake ids and got busted picking them up. He was let got but people probably looking into that afterwards.

But I think the feds probably run alot of the TOR proxies.
In all seriousness does anyone really believe this guy was that stupid? If he left that many clues then anyone on this forum could have tracked this guy down in less than 24 hours.

I call bullshit
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how they find his identity?
http://dailysmoker.com/blog/fbi-takes-down-silk-road ... always a good place to stay tuned in regards to drugs
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child porn, etc (even allegations of a murder-for-hire scheme)...
hear-say and utter bullcrap imo ... if you stayed tuned you'd soon find out there was no victim of said hired hitman around that time ... dont believe all the BS told on media ...
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That is a good one, But I wonder if and how much you have to pay the communist leadership. I remember reading in blow about a crooked hedge fund guy living there.
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Theres a market for these too!
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and what he did? he havent been selling, he just offered the place where others could. but he did nothing wrong, am i right? or he had some fee money from transactions that have been done on silkroad? the registration was free and you have been in contact with the thread poster, and there was no ad banners if i am right ... still dont understand what exact crime he did ...
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and what he did? he havent been selling, he just offered the place where others could. but he did nothing wrong, am i right? or he had some fee money from transactions that have been done on silkroad? the registration was free and you have been in contact with the thread poster, and there was no ad banners if i am right ... still dont understand what exact crime he did ...
registration was free , but for seller account you need to pay him 450 bucks or plus i guess.
plus they are saying he hired hitman to kill his previous co-worker.
so thats that.
you mean its ok to provide market place to sell illegal stuff ? nope, its illegal too.
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registration was free , but for seller account you need to pay him 450 bucks or plus i guess.
plus they are saying he hired hitman to kill his previous co-worker.
so thats that.
you mean its ok to provide market place to sell illegal stuff ? nope, its illegal too.
yes, but thinking about it again, he made there sections like buy coaine and so, so he knew he was helping crime ... not like he was running some uncensored free forum or guestbook ... right ... and that gunman thing, oh man wow ...

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