Dear American terrorist experts, what do you make of the UK attack?
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The tube bombings were 2nd generation. A lot of 2nd gen immigrants in prison aswell.
identity crisis, they´re not from 'insert country here' and they dont feel british.. although who does? The Welsh are Welsh, Scottish are Scottish and the English are thought of as racist if they show any regional pride at all. (St George and all that).
Im Italian, Jewish, Welsh and English in pretty equal parts, so fuck knows what I am.Last edited by Manfap; 05-22-2013, 11:27 AM.Comment
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That's what scares me most - These people went school here, learnt good and bad here - Osama must be laughing...The tube bombings were 2nd generation. A lot of 2nd gen immigrants in prison aswell.
identity crisis, they´re not from 'insert country here' and they dont feel british.. although who does? The Welsh are Welsh, Scottish are Scottish and the English are thought of as racist if they show any regional pride at all. (St George and all that).
Im Italian, Jewish, Welsh and English in pretty equal parts, so fuck knows what I am.Last edited by EddyTheDog; 05-22-2013, 11:43 AM.Comment
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I just saw that. It feels so odd and a bit care in the community-ish.This is weird.
These are the guys that did it, talking 'calmly' to someone in the street, even apologizing for doing it in front of women. While other people just wander around, while the armed killers are still there? Surreal.
Seems to me these guys are just random lunatics, Muslim or not, and killed the guy after seeing him. Ie, doesn't seem planned.Comment
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Logical -- needs explained to the police and judges.I don't see this as being a terrorist attack. This was a murder. A terrorist attack is when someone kills multiple people "for their cause".
Europe is going to have some problems with this. Islam is becoming bigger and bigger, and they aren't like Muslims in the US that just want to go about their business. Might get interesting.
Seems like if you sneeze wrong, they call it terrorist threats or something with terror in the name...Comment
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I was just thinking that the police should walk up, put a gun to this dudes head and kill him. Then I seen the last part of the video, they did shoot him. (he attacked the police they say) HAComment
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According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported.
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Happens everywhere. Happens here, happens in Iraq or Afghanistan. Let's take how angry and vengeful people get at this, or at Boston or 9/11, and try to imagine what someone might feel when an American or British bomb has wiped out their entire family. Which we have done to thousands of people.ok I'll bite, and I really don't mind any law-abiding, and contributing members of this country, as goes for the majority of people here - *but* when you live in it, and it's all around you, as Eddy said, it really is hard not to get angry at the minority (of immigrants).
What happens then is that more people find it hard to separate the minority of immigrants from the whole, and then things start drastically breaking down, and hatred/ill-feeling starts gathering momentum.
So you completely write off hard facts in favor of your imagination, based on thin air. Here's the data from your 2011 Census:A Census that is 12 years out of date, and even then only factors in those who bothered to complete it, which let's get real, is gonna be a TINY percentage of immigrants here to milk the system, more likely none of them, is no indication at all of what it's like in a lot of England atm here and now in 2013.
Christianity remained the largest group; 59% (33.2 million) [...] The second largest response category in 2011 was no religion. This increased 10 percentage points. Interestingly, Christianity is not down everywhere. Newham, Haringey, Brent, Boston and Lambeth have all shown increases in the Christian population.http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...race-educationThe vast majority of the population of England & Wales are white - 86%, [...] In London in 2011, 45% (3.7 million) out of 8.2 million usual residents were White British. The number of mixed people went over 1m for the first time, too.
So you have a white minority in London. Big deal. We have a white minority in at least four or five States. The white population overall is about 70%, compared to your 86%.
Meanwhile, your little speck on the map spent centuries invading and interfering in over one quarter of the entire planet, stealing territory and forcing your culture, religion and illegal hard drugs on to non-whites at the barrel of a gun.
You know, the shit that makes you proud to be British.
Do you take the same position with regard to white fanatics (fascists) marching?The fact is, we are full, have no money (according to the gov't, so interpret that as 'no money for abc, but plenty for xyz', as per all govt's), and more and more people are at 'breaking point' when it comes to tolerating, and paying for, fanatics to be here marching against the very ideals that allow them to be here marching against them in the first place. That spills over into tarring everyone with the same brush, and voila, civil unrest and some fresh riots are the order of the day.Comment
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^ I'm not saying that's my view necessarily, I was saying how I see the masses see it. So get off that horse with your speech about how I played a part in history, and your digs about us being a speck on the map lol, like I give a fuck some people perceive the UK as a speck blahblahblah
ps - the census quote (why you bolded religion is beyond me, I think idiots are idiots, no matter which religion/football team they hide behind) - if you think that even the 2011 one represents actual figures, you're deluded.
pps proud to be British? lmao, you have no idea about me, obviously, so #1 why would I be proud of where chance put me at birth, and #2 even if I *was* proud to be British, it'd be about here and now, not what went on before I was even born.
in fact your whole post is a load of old bollocks, so much so that this is the only 5 minutes you'll get out of me this month...Last edited by Jel; 05-22-2013, 12:35 PM.Comment
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“They were waiting for the police, they were telling people, civilians on the street, to call the police, they wanted to get caught, they were stupid people.”
He said when armed officers arrived a policewoman “jumped out” and shot them both. It was the police who opened first, he confirmed.
He said they had the gun out but were just “walking casually” with their arms at their sides.
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?They were waiting for the police, they were telling people, civilians on the street, to call the police, they wanted to get caught, they were stupid people.?
He said when armed officers arrived a policewoman ?jumped out? and shot them both. It was the police who opened first, he confirmed.
He said they had the gun out but were just ?walking casually? with their arms at their sides.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ndon-live.html
society is grateful....good job...hope she got them in the nuts first
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still not actual proof it was said?According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303Comment
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Yes, you have summarized my thoughts for me, thanksHappens everywhere. Happens here, happens in Iraq or Afghanistan. Let's take how angry and vengeful people get at this, or at Boston or 9/11, and try to imagine what someone might feel when an American or British bomb has wiped out their entire family. Which we have done to thousands of people.
So you completely write off hard facts in favor of your imagination, based on thin air. Here's the data from your 2011 Census:
So you have a white minority in London. Big deal. We have a white minority in at least four or five States. The white population overall is about 70%, compared to your 86%.
Meanwhile, your little speck on the map spent centuries invading and interfering in over one quarter of the entire planet, stealing territory and forcing your culture, religion and illegal hard drugs on to non-whites at the barrel of a gun.
You know, the shit that makes you proud to be British.
Do you take the same position with regard to white fanatics (fascists) marching?
The UK has fucked up a lot of countries but as those countries find their feet again and start developing alot of the middle and upper class do not really want to come to Britain for opportunity anyway. Yes, for holiday or education but other than that they are not really interested in the UK.
However, the lower class from other countries still have the notion that the UK is a land of opportunity and when they get here they are disappointed, get used and end up homeless, on drugs, prostitution etc etc
You never know, people of the UK (British white) might one day face the same plight as these so called dirty immigrants and then may have to migrate to other countries like Spain, USA etc etc where they might get the same backlash, then what.
Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!best cbd oil uk - Hit me up on ICQ 400607632Comment
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Please, tell me more about how little you give a fuck.^ I'm not saying that's my view necessarily, I was saying how I see the masses see it. So get off that horse with your speech about how I played a part in history, and your digs about us being a speck on the map lol, like I give a fuck some people perceive the UK as a speck blahblahblah
I don't see your stats anywhere.ps - the census quote (why you bolded religion is beyond me, I think idiots are idiots, no matter which religion/football team they hide behind) - if you think that even the 2011 one represents actual figures, you're deluded.
As you say, I have no idea about you, so it's rather absurd of you to assume I was specifically talking about you.pps proud to be British? lmao, you have no idea about me, obviously, so #1 why would I be proud of where chance put me at birth, and #2 even if I *was* proud to be British, it'd be about here and now, not what went on before I was even born.
I've seen better ways to avoid having to back up mindless ravings.in fact your whole post is a load of old bollocks, so much so that this is the only 5 minutes you'll get out of me this month...Comment
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The Spanish in general do not hate the Brits - That's from first hand experience...Yes, you have summarized my thoughts for me, thanks
The UK has fucked up a lot of countries but as those countries find their feet again and start developing alot of the middle and upper class do not really want to come to Britain for opportunity anyway. Yes, for holiday or education but other than that they are not really interested in the UK.
However, the lower class from other countries still have the notion that the UK is a land of opportunity and when they get here they are disappointed, get used and end up homeless, on drugs, prostitution etc etc
You never know, people of the UK (British white) might one day face the same plight as these so called dirty immigrants and then may have to migrate to other countries like Spain, USA etc etc where they might get the same backlash, then what.
Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!Comment
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Please, tell me more about how little you give a fuck.
I don't see your stats anywhere.
As you say, I have no idea about you, so it's rather absurd of you to assume I was specifically talking about you.
I've seen better ways to avoid having to back up mindless ravings.
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BREAKING - Retaliation attacks in Essex/Woolwich UK
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can't find any reference of it on skynews, but they're saying a mosque is under attack, and 'clashes between two groups'
i am assuming one of these are EDL
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Whenever I visited the continent, Spain, France, Italy, Holland etc. I tried to go to the "real" parts of the country. Even then you run into Swiss, Germans, Dutch, Belgians (shit drivers!), French, etc.
Only places I even went that still had its own "culture" intact to some extent was Scotland around the lochs/rural areas. Also Devon/Cornwall, but that was mixed with some foreign influences.
All this open boarder shit has fucked things up to some extent. Isn't Ibiza basically the hottest part of Germany these days
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Exactly. Good points.Yes, you have summarized my thoughts for me, thanks
The UK has fucked up a lot of countries but as those countries find their feet again and start developing alot of the middle and upper class do not really want to come to Britain for opportunity anyway. Yes, for holiday or education but other than that they are not really interested in the UK.
However, the lower class from other countries still have the notion that the UK is a land of opportunity and when they get here they are disappointed, get used and end up homeless, on drugs, prostitution etc etc
You never know, people of the UK (British white) might one day face the same plight as these so called dirty immigrants and then may have to migrate to other countries like Spain, USA etc etc where they might get the same backlash, then what.
It's interesting that white immigrants in other countries can be so intolerant of other immigrants, or even of the 'native' people in the country they've moved to.Talking about Spain, apparently they hate the Brits. Brits have made Spain their second home (fish and chip shops, pubs etc etc) and the Spanish are pissed!Comment
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Lol, when I went to Amsterdam ages ago there were so many pubs run by UK people to make UK people feel at home - LOL!!!!!!Whenever I visited the continent, Spain, France, Italy, Holland etc. I tried to go to the "real" parts of the country. Even then you run into Swiss, Germans, Dutch, Belgians (shit drivers!), French, etc.
Only places I even went that still had its own "culture" intact to some extent was Scotland around the lochs/rural areas. Also Devon/Cornwall, but that was mixed with some foreign influences.
All this open boarder shit has fucked things up to some extent. Isn't Ibiza basically the hottest part of Germany these days
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When I went to Magaluf, I thought I had walked into the UK council estates - ahahahhahahhahahahhahah!
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Nope British.
Whre I live I can tell people from the 4 caveman tribes that lived here. It´s full of folklaw and tradition, not the usual stuff either.. damn bagpipes and shit!!!Whenever I visited the continent, Spain, France, Italy, Holland etc. I tried to go to the "real" parts of the country. Even then you run into Swiss, Germans, Dutch, Belgians (shit drivers!), French, etc.
Only places I even went that still had its own "culture" intact to some extent was Scotland around the lochs/rural areas. Also Devon/Cornwall, but that was mixed with some foreign influences.
All this open boarder shit has fucked things up to some extent. Isn't Ibiza basically the hottest part of Germany these days
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i believe in justice being appropriately served by the entity in charge of that and the authorities are supposed to try and bring alleged perpetrators to justice.
that's how it's supposed to happen here in america, not sure of the protocol in britain so i inquired.
it's a slipperly slope when we let authorities be judge jury executioner and the police.
i live in los angeles, we recently had a completey crazed out ex-cop go on a rampage cop killing spree.
the lapd and other law enforcement agencies mistakenly shot 2 little old ladies in this truck, thinking they were a 6'5" black guy in a completely different make, model and color truck.

i wasn't living here in 1992 when the rodney king riots broke out, as dpeicted in the video above, but i remember the news about it all and i can tell you brits don't want a race riot.
so i think it is important in high-profile situations like this for cooler heads to prevail, violents begets violence, it's time for the cycle to stop. i believe they should have tried to arrest them.Comment
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^ Aside from that, if you kill them (and they didn't make any attempt to escape and were obviously quite prepared to die) you lose your best chance to find out why they did it and who, if anyone, helped them do it.Comment
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i believe in justice being appropriately served by the entity in charge of that and the authorities are supposed to try and bring alleged perpetrators to justice.
that's how it's supposed to happen here in america, not sure of the protocol in britain so i inquired.
it's a slipperly slope when we let authorities be judge jury executioner and the police.
i live in los angeles, we recently had a completey crazed out ex-cop go on a rampage cop killing spree.
the lapd and other law enforcement agencies mistakenly shot 2 little old ladies in this truck, thinking they were a 6'5" black guy in a completely different make, model and color truck.

i wasn't living here in 1992 when the rodney king riots broke out, as dpeicted in the video above, but i remember the news about it all and i can tell you brits don't want a race riot.
so i think it is important in high-profile situations like this for cooler heads to prevail, violents begets violence, it's time for the cycle to stop. i believe they should have tried to arrest them.
getting real sick of standing up for these fucks rights tho
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I think it's just too easy to focus anger on the racist side of things.
They're angry that people come to their country and go on welfare.
They say the normal Muslims should stand up and denounce this stuff.
But are the white people denouncing the white people on welfare?
Not to say they don't have a right to be angry, I just think it gets put on race too easily. Surely more cultural than racial.
One thing I find hard to understand is how unwilling some people from foreign countries are to adapt to the place they move to. They want to leave their home, they get accepted into another country, and they aren't happy with some things in the new country... But if I go to Saudi Arabia, it would be pretty foolish to start criticizing how they do things...
But then again, it would be very easy to do so! If a group of us went to Saudi and were alone in a house, surely we'd all be speaking of all the ass backwards things, how hard it is to adapt, how the people are crazy and the rules are ridiculous, etc etc.
So surely when they come to a western country they do the same thing, only opposite.Comment
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sounds about right!
I managed to find some of the "real" Holland in Amsterdam, but didn't need to speak dutch at all, and fell into quite a few tourist traps.
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Can you give examples of not adapting?I think it's just too easy to focus anger on the racist side of things.
They're angry that people come to their country and go on welfare.
They say the normal Muslims should stand up and denounce this stuff.
But are the white people denouncing the white people on welfare?
Not to say they don't have a right to be angry, I just think it gets put on race too easily. Surely more cultural than racial.
One thing I find hard to understand is how unwilling some people from foreign countries are to adapt to the place they move to. They want to leave their home, they get accepted into another country, and they aren't happy with some things in the new country... But if I go to Saudi Arabia, it would be pretty foolish to start criticizing how they do things...
But then again, it would be very easy to do so! If a group of us went to Saudi and were alone in a house, surely we'd all be speaking of all the ass backwards things, how hard it is to adapt, how the people are crazy and the rules are ridiculous, etc etc.
So surely when they come to a western country they do the same thing, only opposite.
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dude, i'm with you. but here's the thing. so maybe things like our cops not killing those boston bombers stopped other(s) from getting so pissed off at the system they go off like this. that's my hope anyway. then little by little, we all get to a middle ground.Comment
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