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  • duk75
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2012
    • 741
    #1

    Chaturbate is the worst sponsor.

    Their main page has a lot of leaks, specially that big banner that links to adult friend finder. And they do not say if they even share what the user you send spend at those sites.

    But even if that were not enough, their "whitelabels" are not really white, and has this label:

    Code:
    <link rel="canonical" href="http://chaturbate.com/" />
    Which is an indication to the search engines to consider the main page their domain chaturbate.com and not the whitelabel domain. This is the most unacceptable thing for us, and it ruins a lot of things. Any backlinks you get to your whitelabel will help the most to their main site (without referral code of course) in the search engines.



    This is to play dirty.

    I hope someone from there read this, so they change this, and the rest read this too, so they don't promote them until they change these things.
    ...Nice.
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    • PornDiscounts-V
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 5744
      #2
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        • DBS.US
          Geo Cities
          • Aug 2003
          • 11843
          #3
          I would love to hear why they do stuff like this?
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            • MainstreamGuy
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2011
              • 477
              #4
              I search and search and I cant find the banner to AFF in my whitelabel... Where is it?

              The CANONICAL thing, sucks big time, They should change that, we work truly hard to send traffic and they get most of the money, the canonical really sucks. We work very hard to build backlinks, wtf they should change that canonical shit ASAP...

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                • duk75
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 741
                  #5
                  Originally posted by DBS.US
                  I would love to hear why they do stuff like this?
                  To win money, is the obvious answer.
                  ...Nice.

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                    • duk75
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 741
                      #6
                      Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                      I search and search and I cant find the banner to AFF in my whitelabel... Where is it?

                      The CANONICAL thing, sucks big time, They should change that, we work truly hard to send traffic and they get most of the money, the canonical really sucks. We work very hard to build backlinks, wtf they should change that canonical shit ASAP...
                      The banner is on their main website, I mentioned it to show that either you promote their main website or a whitelabel, you will lose.
                      ...Nice.

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                        • DBS.US
                          Geo Cities
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 11843
                          #7
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                            • 2013
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 4390
                              #8
                              chaturbate has made me thousands.....

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                                • DBS.US
                                  Geo Cities
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 11843
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by 2013
                                  chaturbate has made me thousands.....
                                  and you could have make more
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                                    • itx
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 980
                                      #10
                                      And they disallow all the robots with their robots.txt

                                      http://biggerjohnson.com/robots.txt

                                      User-agent: *
                                      Disallow: *

                                      If you plan get traffic from search engines the whitelabel of chaturbate is not the best option.

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                                        • Crazy Enough
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2011
                                          • 449
                                          #11
                                          I'm done with cams. Still, if I was going to choose one I would go with cams.com (AFF)

                                          What I don't like on Chaturbate is the fact that the webmaster account is just a user account, and that webmaster area is a mess.

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                                            • bean-aid
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jun 2011
                                              • 16493
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by DBS.US
                                              I would love to hear why they do stuff like this?
                                              Here is your answer:

                                              Originally Posted by punker barbie
                                              Based on our SEO guys recommendation we're not going to change the robots.txt. We don't intend for people to use these whitelabels for SEO purposes. We also don't have any intentions to remove the few links that go back to chaturbate.com

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                                                • MainstreamGuy
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Oct 2011
                                                  • 477
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Crazy Enough
                                                  I'm done with cams. Still, if I was going to choose one I would go with cams.com (AFF)

                                                  What I don't like on Chaturbate is the fact that the webmaster account is just a user account, and that webmaster area is a mess.
                                                  hmmm, you are done then?

                                                  Because webmasters stopped promoting paysites (tubes) and everyone switched over to webcams/dating.

                                                  If paysites dont convert and you dont promote cams, what will you do in adult?

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                                                    • 2013
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Dec 2012
                                                      • 4390
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                                      hmmm, you are done then?

                                                      Because webmasters stopped promoting paysites (tubes) and everyone switched over to webcams/dating.

                                                      If paysites dont convert and you dont promote cams, what will you do in adult?
                                                      paysites do convert

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                                                        • DBS.US
                                                          Geo Cities
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 11843
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by 2013
                                                          paysites do convert
                                                          Lets see your Chaturbate stats screen shot?
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                                                            • 2013
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Dec 2012
                                                              • 4390
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by DBS.US
                                                              Lets see your Chaturbate stats screen shot?
                                                              i don't need people seeing my stats i do good nothing to retire on.

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                                                                • SNRProductions
                                                                  President SNRProductions
                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                  • 703
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I didn't even consider that when we came out with our white labels. I guess the affiliate consensus is not to do that but it's interesting to note that it hurts SEO.

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                                                                    • MainstreamGuy
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2011
                                                                      • 477
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Have you noticed that in the chaturbate whitelabels, the Cam Thumbs are not clickable?

                                                                      And in the main chaturbate site, they are?..

                                                                      Any ideas why?

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                                                                        • bean-aid
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                                          • 16493
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by SNRProductions
                                                                          I didn't even consider that when we came out with our white labels. I guess the affiliate consensus is not to do that but it's interesting to note that it hurts SEO.
                                                                          Do what? Nothing like losing all seo traffic by using a white label.

                                                                          If the white label is setup to not get a lick of seo traffic (ie no index) then that should be stated upfront.

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                                                                            • MainstreamGuy
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Oct 2011
                                                                              • 477
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by 2013
                                                                              paysites do convert
                                                                              Then why are your 3 Ref Links in your signature about Cams and not Paysites ?...

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                                                                                • MainstreamGuy
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Oct 2011
                                                                                  • 477
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by SNRProductions
                                                                                  I didn't even consider that when we came out with our white labels. I guess the affiliate consensus is not to do that but it's interesting to note that it hurts SEO.
                                                                                  Good to know, any examples of how a regular whitelabel looks in your program?

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                                                                                    • 2013
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Dec 2012
                                                                                      • 4390
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                                                                      Then why are your 3 Ref Links in your signature about Cams and not Paysites ?...
                                                                                      paysite referral commisions aren't worth the trouble.

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                                                                                        • DBS.US
                                                                                          Geo Cities
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 11843
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by 2013
                                                                                          i do good nothing to retire on.
                                                                                          Does it do good or does it convert like CraaaaZy?
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                                                                                            • Emil
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                                              • 5658
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by itx
                                                                                              And they disallow all the robots with their robots.txt

                                                                                              http://biggerjohnson.com/robots.txt

                                                                                              User-agent: *
                                                                                              Disallow: *

                                                                                              If you plan get traffic from search engines the whitelabel of chaturbate is not the best option.
                                                                                              Is that really how it works? Shouldn't it be "Disallow: /"? I have no idea and too lazy to Google it.
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                                                                                                • Gozarian
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jun 2012
                                                                                                  • 558
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by duk75
                                                                                                  Their main page has a lot of leaks, specially that big banner that links to adult friend finder. And they do not say if they even share what the user you send spend at those sites.



                                                                                                  This is to play dirty.

                                                                                                  I hope someone from there read this, so they change this, and the rest read this too, so they don't promote them until they change these things.
                                                                                                  Really now - these clowns, in my opinion, have played dirty in ever enterprise they have been involved in all the way back to Communication Concepts

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                                                                                                    • CamTraffic
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2008
                                                                                                      • 6538
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • Andreweb
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Mar 2013
                                                                                                          • 2431
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          They have a lots of problems and leaks but i don't care for me is converting very well!
                                                                                                          Good luck!
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                                                                                                            • helterskelter808
                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                              • Sep 2010
                                                                                                              • 3405
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                                                                                              The CANONICAL thing, sucks big time, They should change that, we work truly hard to send traffic and they get most of the money, the canonical really sucks. We work very hard to build backlinks, wtf they should change that canonical shit ASAP...
                                                                                                              Why? A few weeks ago you were claiming you make $50/day from Google traffic on a single Chaturbate WL you spent 10 minutes setting up two months ago.

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                                                                                                                • Denny
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                  • 17388
                                                                                                                  #29

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                                                                                                                    • adultmobile
                                                                                                                      No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                      • 5345
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 2013
                                                                                                                      chaturbate has made me thousands.....
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Andreweb
                                                                                                                      They have a lots of problems and leaks but i don't care for me is converting very well!
                                                                                                                      Good luck!
                                                                                                                      In fact blah blah but what matters chaturbate is up, running, used and promoted.
                                                                                                                      Seen so many theorically perfect new cam sites who simply failed, down, not promoted.
                                                                                                                      What matters it is not if people talk good or bad of a program, but lots of people talk about it - and chaturbate it is talked so much about, so it is winner.

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                                                                                                                        • DBS.US
                                                                                                                          Geo Cities
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                          • 11843
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                          What matters it is not if people talk good or bad of a program, but lots of people talk about it - and chaturbate it is talked so much about, so it is winner.

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                                                                                                                            • SNRProductions
                                                                                                                              President SNRProductions
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                              • 703
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                                                                                                              Good to know, any examples of how a regular whitelabel looks in your program?
                                                                                                                              Here's a sample of one: http://camshows.co/

                                                                                                                              We just made an upload image for background option as well as added custom CSS options so the example above isn't fully customized.

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                                                                                                                                • money biz
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 1016
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I been messing with them and I think they convert good/been getting paid but I wont send big traffic to them.

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                                                                                                                                    • d-null
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 13724
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      curious if any of you have done any test signups up and down the billing cascade?

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                                                                                                                                        • duk75
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2012
                                                                                                                                          • 741
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Andreweb
                                                                                                                                          They have a lots of problems and leaks but i don't care for me is converting very well!
                                                                                                                                          Good luck!
                                                                                                                                          You could earn more without those problems.
                                                                                                                                          ...Nice.

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                                                                                                                                            • Zeiss
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2012
                                                                                                                                              • 5189
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Of course. They suck... :D


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                                                                                                                                                • DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                  Geo Cities
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 11843
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Andreweb
                                                                                                                                                  They have a lots of problems and leaks but i don't care for me is converting very well!
                                                                                                                                                  Good luck!
                                                                                                                                                  He only beats me on weekends, but i don't care, for me he is the best I can do.
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                                                                                                                                                    • DBS.US
                                                                                                                                                      Geo Cities
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 11843
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      NO Chaturbate Response?
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                                                                                                                                                        • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                          • 6697
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Andreweb
                                                                                                                                                          They have a lots of problems and leaks but i don't care for me is converting very well!
                                                                                                                                                          Good luck!
                                                                                                                                                          Okay so that means they can put up more leaks and do some things to lower your conversion ratio because you'll stick around. And maybe in three years more of your sponsors will do this too because you don't care and it'll cut your earnings 30% for nothing. All because you're okay with it. See how it works?

                                                                                                                                                          The level of shit people collectively put up with affects all of our checks eventually. Greedy people will do whatever they feel they can get away with. That's another reason why the adult affiliate industry is in the shitter for most. Too many people rolled over and shut up.
                                                                                                                                                          Last edited by signupdamnit; 05-25-2013, 10:56 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                            • MainstreamGuy
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2011
                                                                                                                                                              • 477
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SNRProductions
                                                                                                                                                              Here's a sample of one: http://camshows.co/

                                                                                                                                                              We just made an upload image for background option as well as added custom CSS options so the example above isn't fully customized.
                                                                                                                                                              Looks good, gonna check you out.

                                                                                                                                                              All the processing goes via CCBILL, right ?

                                                                                                                                                              And cookies last forever in revshare?
                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by MainstreamGuy; 05-25-2013, 04:03 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Cyber Fucker
                                                                                                                                                                  Hmm
                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                  • 12642
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I agree that this is not right.
                                                                                                                                                                  But many programs today treat their affiliates not right to shave as much as possible.
                                                                                                                                                                  I learned to not care about it as long as the ratio of spent time, money invested, bandwidth burned /to/ sales is positive.
                                                                                                                                                                  However, if a program goes hardcore on affiliates shaving everything and there are no sales at all or very little then a program is not worthy.
                                                                                                                                                                  I would also very carefully consider focusing on a single program or on very few programs because one day sales may be gone and all hard work fucked. Things are changing all the time.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by Cyber Fucker; 05-25-2013, 04:16 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                      No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 5345
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Cyber Fucker
                                                                                                                                                                      I would also very carefully consider focusing on a single program or on very few programs because one day sales may be gone and all hard work fucked. Things are changing all the time.
                                                                                                                                                                      In fact, use logic: each program who really shave so much will lose most or all the affiliates, as they compare with the higher sales/conversions of other programs who do not shave. No one uses one program once and for life, there is competition and free choice enough, I don't see a monopoly where you can choice only one program per niche, so he can do as he wishes. Let's say every program shave 50%: but then even one program who does not shave, would show double the conversions/earnings. As result, every affiliate would end up using it, and dropping all the others. I am not seeing this happening, people try a little of every program. In a competitive market, it is not logic to believe every program can shave and do well like others, they would be outperformed by even the only one not shaving as it existed.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                          No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 5345
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SNRProductions
                                                                                                                                                                          Here's a sample of one: http://camshows.co/

                                                                                                                                                                          We just made an upload image for background option as well as added custom CSS options so the example above isn't fully customized.
                                                                                                                                                                          By the way you're the first cam site who started accepting bitcoins, right? How is that going, if I may ask. And do you pay revshare of bitcoins sales - if yes, in bitcoins?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • MainstreamGuy
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2011
                                                                                                                                                                              • 477
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I have been sending like 200 free joins daily to chaturbate, but my daily income remains the same (in average), since day 1...

                                                                                                                                                                              What does it mean? That I am not being credited for the first members I sent?

                                                                                                                                                                              Or that people join, spend some money, and then they go away and never come back?

                                                                                                                                                                              It really makes no sense, it should be accumulative, if in month 1 of promotion you sent 6000 free joins and made 1200 bucks, in month 5, you already sent 30,000 free joins by that time, and you are still making 1200 bucks per month?... Does it really makes sense? Is this normal with most cam revshare programs?

                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah, I know that there are a lot of variables, of course, it depends on a lot of things, but im talking about monthly averages here, in the big number, it doesn't makes sense.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • AllAboutCams
                                                                                                                                                                                  Femcams.com
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 12234
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                  I have been sending like 200 free joins daily to chaturbate, but my daily income remains the same (in average), since day 1...

                                                                                                                                                                                  What does it mean? That I am not being credited for the first members I sent?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Or that people join, spend some money, and then they go away and never come back?

                                                                                                                                                                                  It really makes no sense, it should be accumulative, if in month 1 of promotion you sent 6000 free joins and made 1200 bucks, in month 5, you already sent 30,000 free joins by that time, and you are still making 1200 bucks per month?... Does it really makes sense? Is this normal with most cam revshare programs?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah, I know that there are a lot of variables, of course, it depends on a lot of things, but im talking about monthly averages here, in the big number, it doesn't makes sense.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Out of the 200 free join how many buy?
                                                                                                                                                                                  How long have you been promoting them?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • nikki99
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 23087
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 4390
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by nikki99
                                                                                                                                                                                          chaturbate is the BEST sponsor

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 6697
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                                              In fact, use logic: each program who really shave so much will lose most or all the affiliates, as they compare with the higher sales/conversions of other programs who do not shave. No one uses one program once and for life, there is competition and free choice enough, I don't see a monopoly where you can choice only one program per niche, so he can do as he wishes. Let's say every program shave 50%: but then even one program who does not shave, would show double the conversions/earnings. As result, every affiliate would end up using it, and dropping all the others. I am not seeing this happening, people try a little of every program. In a competitive market, it is not logic to believe every program can shave and do well like others, they would be outperformed by even the only one not shaving as it existed.
                                                                                                                                                                                              You make many assumptions.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Affiliates don't have perfect knowledge of shaving and they don't always know of all the other sponsors and how they convert.

                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Not every affiliate has an easy means of swapping out links without intense labor. With some methods it may not even effectively be possible.

                                                                                                                                                                                              3. "In a competitive market..." It's not a competitive market in adult. Especially for cam programs there are just a few and they all have various issues or skeletons in their closets.

                                                                                                                                                                                              4. Many programs aren't relying on affiliates anymore in 2013. Affiliates are bonus money with many of these guys. For the blatant shavers it's easy free money by taking advantage of the suckers. Why wouldn't they take your traffic and pay you for 10% of it if you are willing to do it?


                                                                                                                                                                                              Shaving does exist and it has existed for a long, long time. There are thousands of messages of proof and somewhat reliable declarations on webmaster boards. They range from affiliates sharing convincing data and accounts to screenshots of shaving software (see sig) or programmers openly acknowledging that shave capabilities are one of the main things affiliate programs ask for when requesting custom software.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Here is an old thread I was just reading earlier today in fact:

                                                                                                                                                                                              http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=169587

                                                                                                                                                                                              In my opinion anyone who says shaving doesn't occur or tries to say that it almost never happens (like under 10% of the time) is either new to the industry or is dishonest as hell. I would NEVER trust such a person by default.

                                                                                                                                                                                              EDIT: Let me be clear I am not saying that chaturbate shaves. This is just a general discussion on shaving and the industry.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by signupdamnit; 05-26-2013, 10:06 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • signupdamnit
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MainstreamGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I have been sending like 200 free joins daily to chaturbate, but my daily income remains the same (in average), since day 1...

                                                                                                                                                                                                  What does it mean? That I am not being credited for the first members I sent?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Or that people join, spend some money, and then they go away and never come back?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It really makes no sense, it should be accumulative, if in month 1 of promotion you sent 6000 free joins and made 1200 bucks, in month 5, you already sent 30,000 free joins by that time, and you are still making 1200 bucks per month?... Does it really makes sense? Is this normal with most cam revshare programs?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah, I know that there are a lot of variables, of course, it depends on a lot of things, but im talking about monthly averages here, in the big number, it doesn't makes sense.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I would expect 200 free joins a day to build your income on revshare. If not, yes I'd be looking very long and hard.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I say go with your gut. You're probably right in doing that at least 90% of the time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      What he said
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