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Robbie 05-23-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19637278)
Military spending is out of control..

However, in order to change that, you need to provide the people that work with the military other ways to get jobs

so not only are they using that funding, they're using it in the wrong places, while voting for people who are working toward dismantling that social structure? Can't imagine 'social funding' is any republican platform. (unless it's military spending?)

anyway, the whole right/left paradigm. i don't really follow it.

for example, i am not a liberal :1orglaugh

I can agree with everything you just said.

Our country has built up such a vast military industrial complex that it's a huge driver of the economy in a lot of states.
It's a sad situation.

_Richard_ 05-23-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19637345)
I can agree with everything you just said.

Our country has built up such a vast military industrial complex that it's a huge driver of the economy in a lot of states.
It's a sad situation.

and a recent one too. You have Eisenhower warning about the MIC, then a few years later JFK gets offed, then you have a series of wars

mineistaken 05-23-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19634271)
Robbie open your eyes! RED STATE parasites are the biggest FREELOADERS in Amerika!

Biggest freeloaders are africans and their 5 kids from different "baby mommas". And 95% of them vote blue.

mineistaken 05-23-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19634320)
I was curious so I had to look this up. New Mexico really does only have 2 million people, LOL. That's roughly 1% of the country. The United States has more than 20 metro areas with a larger population than New Mexico.

Only 1% is not that small.
50 states so average state would have 2% of population. 1% of population is half the average state. Yeah, not much, but not surprisingly or shockingly small. :2 cents:

mineistaken 05-23-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19634529)
Percentages and dollars don't count at this time.

No body has broken down WHAT taxes are being divided by population to arrive at the revenue per capita dollar number.

When you look at the total federal tax revenue by state, collected by the IRS you are including individual AND corporate dollars. They are mixed. So ????

Why does California get credit for Toyota USA paying the Feds from their corporate headquarters in California. Why does each resident of California get their per capita revenue figure bolstered by the tax on profit from every Toyota vehicle sold in the rest of the country?

Why do New York residents get to divide per capita tax collected on every penny declared as profit from investment bank/stock brokerages on transaction across the country just because their corp headquarters pay from Wall St?

Why does Procter and Gamble out of Ohio up the percentage of their residents from tax collected on consumer products sold in other states? Proctor and Gamble probably has a half dozen products in every house in every state but pay from corporate offices in Cincinnati Ohio.

Think where most big tax paying corporations are located ?.. Look at those states on the list now and you'll see why the numbers are incorrect. Poor guy in New Mexico driving a Toyota has just increased the per capita numbers for some guy in California.


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I love how this post does not get attention, especially from those democrat (pro welfare party) lovers.

Robbie 05-23-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19637356)
Biggest freeloaders are africans and their 5 kids from different "baby mommas". And 95% of them vote blue.

There is no reason to get racist.

Your comment is no better than the OP ranting about "red" state "freeloaders".

With the money that our federal govt. is already spending on killing people worldwide (the military)...we could help educate, train, and lift up all of our citizens and make "welfare" unnecessary in the future.

But our politicians do not want that.

Stop blaming your fellow citizens. The govt. is the one turning all of us on each other.

_Richard_ 05-23-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19637374)
I love how this post does not get attention, especially from those democrat (pro welfare party) lovers.

do you consider military funding to be social funding

just a punk 05-23-2013 11:02 AM

So red republican states are more socialists than blue democratic ones? Did I get it right? :helpme

Fat Panda 05-23-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19637414)
So red republican states are more socialists than blue democratic ones? Did I get it right? :helpme

correct and its an absolute fact

_Richard_ 05-23-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19637414)
So red republican states are more socialists than blue democratic ones? Did I get it right? :helpme

yes and no

red states use more federal funding, and that includes military funding

while the blue states have most of the corporations, and posting that income.

what's hilarious, is that's a socialist argument, and they don't even realize

crockett 05-23-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19637278)
Military spending is out of control..

However, in order to change that, you need to provide the people that work with the military other ways to get jobs

so not only are they using that funding, they're using it in the wrong places, while voting for people who are working toward dismantling that social structure? Can't imagine 'social funding' is any republican platform. (unless it's military spending?)

anyway, the whole right/left paradigm. i don't really follow it.

for example, i am not a liberal :1orglaugh

Umm no if you don't agree with letting big business rape the country and giving all our tax dollars to the military then you are a liberal.. Sorry but true story.

There was time when at least the right used to "pretend" they were fiscal conservatives, however that time has long past and to be honestly they really never were. They just live in a little dream world where it's rainbows & unicorns when they hold the high office but always doom & gloom when they don't.

Fat Panda 05-23-2013 11:17 AM

inbred red state republican parasites are socialist traitors and a complete disgrace to the united states of amerika. they're freeloaders, free riders and TAKERS!

SuckOnThis 05-23-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19637356)
Biggest freeloaders are africans and their 5 kids from different "baby mommas". And 95% of them vote blue.


The biggest freeloaders are black males on welfare with 5 kids all from different mommas?

:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 05-23-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19637442)
Umm no if you don't agree with letting big business rape the country and giving all our tax dollars to the military then you are a liberal.. Sorry but true story.

There was time when at least the right used to "pretend" they were fiscal conservatives, however that time has long past and to be honestly they really never were. They just live in a little dream world where it's rainbows & unicorns when they hold the high office but always doom & gloom when they don't.

it goes back and forth depending on the voting body.. this 'right/left' paradigm is a little simplistic, and especially for nations such as ours

maybe the US is more 'melting pot' than Canada, but a multifaceted government approach is just more 'checks and balances' in the end, in my opinion

Fat Panda 05-23-2013 08:02 PM

BUMP and a BIG fuck you to inbred red state freeloaders!

mineistaken 05-24-2013 03:29 AM

Is there a number of how many republicans and how many democrats are on welfare? That would be better number because simply looking at whole states does not paint correct picture. For the reasons L-pink and others mentioned.
For example:
Government starts some facility in certain state, that means more funding, but does that mean that suddenly people from that state became freeloaders even more? No, but according to OP's inaccurate method that would be yes.

L-Pink 05-24-2013 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19637374)
I love how this post does not get attention, especially from those democrat (pro welfare party) lovers.

I know. Everyone avoids this little fact that makes the entire argument moot. You're the only one that noticed?


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