Linux or Mac OS

[ls101]

Is it possible to install Linux in PC Computer? I mean Can I install Linux OS in my desktop?

[Supz]

yes ofcourse it is.

[fris]

i would vmware it first, to see if you like it

[helterskelter808]

You don't even have to install Linux. Download a LiveCD and run it from the CD to see if you're going to like it or not, but obviously give it a fair chance, it's different (and superior) to Windows, and remember it's going to be slower running from the CD than it is when it's installed.

There are shitloads of Linux distros, but Ubuntu, Mint and Arch are probably the most popular.

If you want to run OSX on your PC you'll need to get a hacked version, because although the hardware is the same these days, Apple employs ways to prevent it working on non-Apple PCs. Even with a hacked version certain things may not run correctly due to the hardware you have, or it may not install or work at all. Either way it's time consuming and quite a hassle to set up.

I would advise you not to waste your time with OSX (click here for the OSx86 project if you're interested though), but you should definitely try Linux.

[shake]

Yes, almost all people using linux (other than servers) are installed on normal laptop and desktop computers. There's definitely a learning curve, so as Fris said you should try it in a virtual environment or a spare computer to start. There are a ton of great applications, and if you learn the command line it opens up a whole new world of productivity.

[ls101]

Thanks for reply guys! Very informative!

Anyway, I ask because I purchase a new desktop with 16GB of RAM and 2TB of Hard disk it is the highest among all of my PC here in my home office.

[helterskelter808]

You don't even need a modern PC to run Linux. Ubuntu is relatively bloated (still nothing like Windows) and slow on older hardware, but you can use Linux on a 486 upwards (support for 386s was dropped a few months ago, you'll be disappointed to hear). I have an 8 year old laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 (with XFCE).

[Ferus]

Xubuntu.org is great to work with, and easy to install.

[leg4]

I really like Virtual Box, get it... its free and very stable.

You can install almost any OS


https://www.virtualbox.org/


Cheers!

[helterskelter808]

^ Indeed. Why use Windows when you can use Linux and install Windows within it, with Virtualbox.

[ls101]

Currently testing ubuntu is it really normal that the OS will hang every now and then? If not what is the problem in this?

[ls101]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

^ Indeed. Why use Windows when you can use Linux and install Windows within it, with Virtualbox.

Yes, some of my softwares needs to be Linux base or Mac OS got a huge mistake though I should buy Apple Desktop from the start!

[ls101]

And by the way how to install exe softwares of run it in ubuntu?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by ls101

though I should buy Apple Desktop from the start!

Nope, no need to overpay for logo. Linux
I hear Mint is easiest for novice user.

[helterskelter808]

If you're using a LiveCD it may be 'hanging' because the CD is being accessed. That won't happen when it's installed on the HD.

As for needing OSX, if it's for developing iPhone apps there may be solutions for that, but you can install OSx86 on Virtualbox within Linux (I've done it, out of curiosity mainly, but I never use it).

[ls101]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

If you're using a LiveCD it may be 'hanging' because the CD is being accessed. That won't happen when it's installed on the HD.

As for needing OSX, if it's for developing iPhone apps there may be solutions for that, but you can install OSx86 on Virtualbox within Linux (I've done it, out of curiosity mainly, but I never use it).

Where can I download the OSx86 by the way!

[helterskelter808]

You'll have to use your imagination where to download it from.

When I did it a few years ago, it required a hacked version (you'll have to Google to see what versions are out there, like I said it's time consuming). Apparently now though you can use a legit, non-hacked, copy of OSX and use a customized boot disk to start the install process.

Remember, if you're acquiring an operating system from anywhere but the official source, it may contain all kinds of nasty shit.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Nope, no need to overpay for logo. Linux
I hear Mint is easiest for novice user.

Mint is good for advanced users as well,i was able to make my own version of mint.

[fris]

http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/#ubuntu

here is a list of vmware images you can download for instant setup

[candyflip]

I triple boot between them all on my Hackintosh, that I just built.

Installing OSX on it was just as easy as it was to install it on any of my Macs. Everything works and updates. No issues or worries.

[fris]

Originally Posted by candyflip

I triple boot between them all on my Hackintosh, that I just built.

Installing OSX on it was just as easy as it was to install it on any of my Macs. Everything works and updates. No issues or worries.

i use vmware fusion on my mac with ubuntu so i can test locally on ubuntu and run shell scripts for testing.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by fris

i use vmware fusion on my mac with ubuntu so i can test locally on ubuntu and run shell scripts for testing.

I hardly use it. I just wanted to say I built something that could run all three.

My girl got this little Fusion 64gb USB fob that has Fusion and 2-3 of her VMs, and she carries it with her pretty much all the time.

[freecartoonporn]

yes. you can.

[oscer]

I use centos with gnome for my desktop

[blazin]

Centos on servers... Ubuntu on desktop (use it more as a home media server/development environment)
Mac OS on my laptop

[Aidoru]

Real mean use Slackware

[Zyzz]

http://www.tonymacx86.com/

Great resource for starting with Hackintos

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Zyzz

http://www.tonymacx86.com/

Great resource for starting with Hackintos

Yep...just buy from his list and you're good to go.

[helterskelter808]

Tonymacx86 is regarded as a scumbag within the OSx86 community. I would advise people to stay away from his shit.

[ls101]

Anyway guys, I tried to install MacOSx after installing it, my PC stuck at apple logo! literally its hang!

[Ferus]

If you go the Ubuntu/xubuntu way, check out "Time Tracker" from "project hamster"
I use it every day, and when they release the new Ubuntu version for mobile-phones, I hope this port well.

By far the best time-tracker and reporting tool I have ever used.

[ls101]

The main reason why I wanted to use Mac OS X Because I am going to use http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/ I hope that anyone from here can get me to the right way where to download the working Mac OS X since I downloaded at TPB it seems not working at all!

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Tonymacx86 is regarded as a scumbag within the OSx86 community. I would advise people to stay away from his shit.

Is that because he doesn't like the groups putting out hacked distros anymore...because there's no need?

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by ls101

Anyway guys, I tried to install MacOSx after installing it, my PC stuck at apple logo! literally its hang!

Post the specifics of your computer. I can point you in the right direction.

It's not easy to just grab a computer off of the store shelves and run OSX on it. Something like that will take work, if it's possible. There are some specific parts they've tested to make sure work with OSX. There's a list on the site linked above to help you get the right parts.

[ls101]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Post the specifics of your computer. I can point you in the right direction.

It's not easy to just grab a computer off of the store shelves and run OSX on it. Something like that will take work, if it's possible. There are some specific parts they've tested to make sure work with OSX. There's a list on the site linked above to help you get the right parts.

I'm gonna test in my old PC this time. I have the following specs:

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by ls101

I'm gonna test in my old PC this time. I have the following specs:

It's entirely possible that the newest version of can't be installed on Core 2 Duo machines. I don't think it's possible to load it onto some of the older Macs either. Older versions have worked with your processor / motherboard set up. So, people HAVE done it.

You might need to look into a hacked OSX distro, if you really want to load it on there. I know that there are hacked versions of Mountain Lion for older Mac hardware, so I'm sure it's out there for non-Apple gear as well. Google iAtkos for more on that.

Building with pre-tested parts is your best bet. You can do it for $250 if you want to play around:

[ls101]

Originally Posted by candyflip

It's entirely possible that the newest version of can't be installed on Core 2 Duo machines. I don't think it's possible to load it onto some of the older Macs either. Older versions have worked with your processor / motherboard set up. So, people HAVE done it.

You might need to look into a hacked OSX distro, if you really want to load it on there. I know that there are hacked versions of Mountain Lion for older Mac hardware, so I'm sure it's out there for non-Apple gear as well. Google iAtkos for more on that.

Building with pre-tested parts is your best bet. You can do it for $250 if you want to play around:

I think I do not need to buy new hardware since I have all of these what I have in my mind right now is that how to get OS X too complicated. But this is a thousand dollar contract for a year.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by ls101

I think I do not need to buy new hardware since I have all of these what I have in my mind right now is that how to get OS X too complicated. But this is a thousand dollar contract for a year.

You'll have to use one of the hacked distros, probably of version 10.5 - 10.6. Search iAtkos in Google. You'll find all the info you need.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Is that because he doesn't like the groups putting out hacked distros anymore...because there's no need?

No need for hacked distros any more, and yet you're telling this guy he has to download a hacked distro.

He is disliked because he steals other people's hard work and passes it off as his own and his motivation is not helping the OSx86 community but leeching from it and trying to profit from it.

I don't know, or care, what his opinion is on "hacked distros", but his site is for clueless noobs who don't know any better and who waste money when they don't need to.

Not pointing any fingers though.

[helterskelter808]

ls101, the real OSx86 community is here:

http://www.osx86project.org

Read the Wiki and search the Insanely Mac forums, and ask questions there, where you'll get honest answers from people who aren't trying to make a buck from you and who actually have a clue what they're talking about.

If your copy of OSX is legit, meaning it's a retail version (regardless of how you acquired it) you can potentially install it with Boot 132.

Google 'OSX boot 132' for more info about it. As I said in my first post, OSX is a time consuming hassle.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

No need for hacked distros any more, and yet you're telling this guy he has to download a hacked distro.

He is disliked because he steals other people's hard work and passes it off as his own and his motivation is not helping the OSx86 community but leeching from it and trying to profit from it.

I don't know, or care, what his opinion is on "hacked distros", but his site is for clueless noobs who don't know any better and who waste money when they don't need to.

Not pointing any fingers though.

There is a need for a hacked distro if you're running old hardware, like the OP is attempting to do. You can't even install OSX 10.8 on Mac hardware with Core 2 Duo, as far as I'm aware.

I don't give a shit about politics and in-fighting among dorks or anyone else online. His site is loaded with helpful info and his tools work without fail. If he got a few bucks from me clicking on his Amazon links, I'm cool with that.

[edgeprod]

As I use my computers almost exclusively for software development and annoying people on GFY, I run a dual-boot setup of Linux and Mac OS X on most of them. I have a copy of Parallels running Windows 7 for when I absolutely need to run a native-Windows application (it runs in a window on my Mac OS X desktop).

Each system has its plusses and minuses. Mac OS X, for example, is a very integrated-feeling system with native cloud support and incremental auto-saving in all of the applications I use daily. Backing up my entire setup is as easy as buying an external hard drive and clicking "on" for Time Machine.

Linux has the flexibility for me to be able to set up any server environment I've needed to-date, and to build powerful black-box testing scenarios that compliment my white-box unit tests. One of the huge plusses of Linux, as someone pointed out earlier, is that you can literally run it from a CD (or thumb-drive, or whatever) to see if you like it, or just to use it occasionally for specific purposes.

[ls101]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

ls101, the real OSx86 community is here:

http://www.osx86project.org

Read the Wiki and search the Insanely Mac forums, and ask questions there, where you'll get honest answers from people who aren't trying to make a buck from you and who actually have a clue what they're talking about.

If your copy of OSX is legit, meaning it's a retail version (regardless of how you acquired it) you can potentially install it with Boot 132.

Google 'OSX boot 132' for more info about it. As I said in my first post, OSX is a time consuming hassle.

I just sign up in the forum and I'll be happy giving you an update after posting some infos and question in there and thank you so much for this.

[stinkyfingers]

Originally Posted by ls101

Is it possible to install Linux in PC Computer? I mean Can I install Linux OS in my desktop?

[ls101]

Now I have a problem with that forum it seems you cannot post in there unless you take a quiz and I took it and I got 9/13 the passing is 10 and I have to wait (dont know how long) LOL

[Zeiss]

Go for linux, whichever distro you like.

[alcstrategy]

osx is based on bsd so technically you don't need to run linux if you are looking for a unix based environment.

While bsd can be a pain in the ass you can still set up xwindow, you can use macports, you can set up whatever dev environment, compilers, scripts, etc. Its been a while but I'm pretty sure osx has apache already ready to go even, however if you're on a pc you can have the most shit tier of pcs and throw linux on there. I'm not sure what you want to do but even cygwin might work for you with just windows but i dont really know what your main purpose is

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by ls101

Now I have a problem with that forum it seems you cannot post in there unless you take a quiz and I took it and I got 9/13 the passing is 10 and I have to wait (dont know how long) LOL

Can you post what version of OSX you have? It's relevant to installing it with Boot 132 and even whether you can install it at all.

[ls101]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Can you post what version of OSX you have? It's relevant to installing it with Boot 132 and even whether you can install it at all.

I have OSX 10.8 and 10.7

[2013]

u can do it