I never liked circus because of that. And that's not about Russia. That's about all animal shows on the Earth. Every such a show is an act of abuse. You must be an infantile kid if you don't understand it
I never liked circus because of that. And that's not about Russia. That's about all animal shows on the Earth. Every such a show is an act of abuse. You must be an infantile kid if you don't understand it
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Exactly. And you can add most ZOO's to the list as well, when they keep animals like polar bears in 1000sqyare yards, when they are born to roam 1000 square miles.
Your question has ZERO relevance to your comments earlier.
With the power of social media, you can share content and then a major news outlet can pick it up. A very low chance but at least you are TRYING.
Yes, I've seen the way animals are treated at SeaWorld. Very disappointing.
Yeah, Facebook pages will save the world. Social media attention is five seconds. As soon as someone find something else to be mad about, or post a new Justin Bieber video, people will forget the animals.
Look at Spain where bullfighting is a billion dollar business. They even received more then $250 million in EU funding for bullfights last year. Where they stab bulls to death with swords. Fuck them and their culture! and I hope the whole country go bankrupt like Greece
There have been thousands of hours of media (offline, online and broadcast) attention on that, but nothing is done about it... nada! and nothing ever will, because people are fucked up.
Look at Spain where bullfighting is a billion dollar business. They even received more then $250 million in EU funding for bullfights last year. Where they stab bulls to death with swords. Fuck them and their culture! and I hope the whole country go bankrupt like Greece.
I've never understood why bullfighting isn't seen as anything else apart from a disgusting act of animal torture and cruelty.
Are you serious they recieve that money from the EU for funding ? Fucked up if so.
Very fucked up...
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I agree with the people not watching. I've seen shit like that, or maybe it's worse (I didn't watch this one) and ultimately it just angers, depresses and frustrates you, because what can you really do?
Like others, I also hate even the concept of (animal) circuses, and trying to train animals to perform tricks (animal slavery), and also loathe zoos (animal prisons).
The only excuse for the latter is if it's about saving animals, or preserving animals, to be released back into the wild.
Seems a bit pointless to single out Russia on this one, when different kinds of animal abuse happens all around the world.
heres a nice pic...now I really feel sorry for the bull, getting stabbed like that but i hope the matador got that horn deeeeeeep up his asshole, and I hope it messed him up good...look at how long the other horn is
Anyone here who claims that 'animal abuse' is wrong will still continuing to stuff his or her face with meat and other animal products is a hypocrite.
If stuff like this makes you sick, go and take a look at how 95% of meat is made in your country. It honestly makes no sense to me to simultaneously be against animal abuse but not take proactive steps yourself to stop it.
It's not about a specific country, these cruel things happen in a lot of places in this cruel world.
Haven't you heard about the case of the Ukranian young guys killing people with a hammer? And according to wikipedia, they started doing it with animals, and then started killing people. The fuckers were sentenced to life imprisonment...
Sick people are all around the world. In USA you see sickos every week, for example the Batman Assesin, and stuff like that.
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Anyone here who claims that 'animal abuse' is wrong will still continuing to stuff his or her face with meat and other animal products is a hypocrite.
There's nothing wrong with eating meat, per se, the problem is when animals are not treated humanely before, and while, being killed.
If stuff like this makes you sick, go and take a look at how 95% of meat is made in your country. It honestly makes no sense to me to simultaneously be against animal abuse but not take proactive steps yourself to stop it.
Whereas presumably you're some kind of superhero, 'proactively' trying to stop animal abuse, child abuse, rape, murder, torture and every other nasty thing under the sun? Please, explain the steps you are taking to 'proactively' stop those bad things occurring, or are you just not against those things?
You're right that nobody gives a shit about how the food arrives on their plate, whether that's to do with how the animal was treated or whether it's all the chemicals, additives and mutations they put in the food.
But what's your point? Because nobody thinks of the abuse involved in one thing (food production), mainly because it's hidden, they have no right to complain or be upset about abuse elsewhere (circuses)? Doesn't make sense.
Anyone here who claims that 'animal abuse' is wrong will still continuing to stuff his or her face with meat and other animal products is a hypocrite.
If stuff like this makes you sick, go and take a look at how 95% of meat is made in your country. It honestly makes no sense to me to simultaneously be against animal abuse but not take proactive steps yourself to stop it.
Idiotic comment.
If I stop eating meat, will animals stop getting slaughtered ?? Of course not.
I can't do anything about how they kill animals for food here. Even if I don't eat any meat. I suppose they are killed for food though at the very least.
It does not make me a hypocrite at all if I get pissed off when I see an act of animal cruelty...
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I can't do anything about how they kill animals for food here. Even if I don't eat any meat. I suppose they are killed for food though at the very least.
It does not make me a hypocrite at all if I get pissed off when I see an act of animal cruelty...
Your attitude is exactly the logic used by slave owners. "If I stop having slaves, it isn't going to stop it overall, so why bother?". Same logic could be applied to pedophiles, rapists, murderers, etc.. One person isn't going to affect overall numbers, so what's the point, right?
Your change to abstaining from eating meat from poor sources will have an economic effect on any company that supplies meat to you. You also add to a long list of growing individuals that are actively abstaining from a terrible activity.
If you want to hold that you're not going to fix the problem, that's fine. But tell me why you vote in elections if one person is unlikely to make any difference? If you can answer that question sufficiently, I'll entertain the idea that while you want to stop eating meat, you see no purpose to it as it won't result in any less animals being killed.
Originally posted by helterskelter808
Whereas presumably you're some kind of superhero, 'proactively' trying to stop animal abuse, child abuse, rape, murder, torture and every other nasty thing under the sun? Please, explain the steps you are taking to 'proactively' stop those bad things occurring, or are you just not against those things?
My proactive step is that which, if undertaken by everyone, would result in these things being nonexistent. I think it's fair to ask of every person to act as they would like the entire population to act. I don't eat meat, I don't eat animal products, I don't buy animal products. I buy cotton clothes, I eat fruits and vegetables, I have soy derivatives for dairy. If everyone undertook the diet and way of life that I did, videos like this wouldn't exist. I think it's fair to say that so long as I act in my own way to reduce my impact on the pain and suffering of others, I've done a good thing. That's my proactive step.
Originally posted by helterskelter808
You're right that nobody gives a shit about how the food arrives on their plate, whether that's to do with how the animal was treated or whether it's all the chemicals, additives and mutations they put in the food.
Do you know what a chemical is? I'll give you a hint: water is a chemical, diamonds are chemicals. Gold is a chemical; the word means nothing and is generally pushed by people who don't understand the science behind additives and food preservation. It's a real buzzword that literally means nothing.
Originally posted by helterskelter808
But what's your point? Because nobody thinks of the abuse involved in one thing (food production), mainly because it's hidden, they have no right to complain or be upset about abuse elsewhere (circuses)? Doesn't make sense.
My point is that it's hypocritical to be against abuse at a circus but not against abuse from animal farming.
I infer that the logic employed by people in this thread is that they dislike animals being tortured and hurt regardless of their situation re: circus animals or not. It is, in and of itself, something that they all wish would not exist. All I'm saying is that it's rather poor form and illogical (read: deductively incompatible) to be against this video while simultaneously undergoing steps in your everyday life that results in the suffering on animals.
I'm glad that people care about animals, because it's a very serious topic that is often overlooked by people who just love the taste of eggs and baron. But I wish more people would understand that they partake in the very activity they're against every day of the week. Being outraged at a video like this does absolutely nothing to help the situation of animal suffering; abstaining from a diet that contains animal and animal products from poor sources does. Therefore, I would argue that it is logically void and pointless to be sad over a video of animal abuse when you go ahead and abuse animals yourself.
My proactive step is that which, if undertaken by everyone, would result in these things being nonexistent. I think it's fair to ask of every person to act as they would like the entire population to act. I don't eat meat, I don't eat animal products, I don't buy animal products. I buy cotton clothes, I eat fruits and vegetables, I have soy derivatives for dairy. If everyone undertook the diet and way of life that I did, videos like this wouldn't exist. I think it's fair to say that so long as I act in my own way to reduce my impact on the pain and suffering of others, I've done a good thing. That's my proactive step.
It's not undertaken by everyone, though, is it? And your solo proactive step does absolutely nothing to prevent it. So what you just said is as redundant as saying "if everyone stopped abusing animals there'd be no animal abuse". Mind = blown.
Do you know what a chemical is? I'll give you a hint: water is a chemical, diamonds are chemicals. Gold is a chemical; the word means nothing and is generally pushed by people who don't understand the science behind additives and food preservation. It's a real buzzword that literally means nothing.
Do you know what the word literally means? I'll give you a hint: no, you don't.
My point is that it's hypocritical to be against abuse at a circus but not against abuse from animal farming.
I know what your point was. It's neither complex nor original.
I infer that the logic employed by people in this thread is that they dislike animals being tortured and hurt regardless of their situation re: circus animals or not. It is, in and of itself, something that they all wish would not exist. All I'm saying is that it's rather poor form and illogical (read: deductively incompatible) to be against this video while simultaneously undergoing steps in your everyday life that results in the suffering on animals.
I'm glad to know that you took steps to verify that your cotton clothes were not manufactured by children in some third world sweat shop, or that your PC was not made in some Chinese factory with diabolically low working standards (aka slavery), or other examples I'm sure you can come up with yourself.
You really are a superhero. Congrats.
I'm glad that people care about animals, because it's a very serious topic that is often overlooked by people who just love the taste of eggs and baron. But I wish more people would understand that they partake in the very activity they're against every day of the week. Being outraged at a video like this does absolutely nothing to help the situation of animal suffering; abstaining from a diet that contains animal and animal products from poor sources does.
Patently it does not, otherwise why does this video exist? Nothing you have ever done in your life prevented what happened in that video (whatever it was, I didn't watch).
Therefore, I would argue that it is logically void and pointless to be sad over a video of animal abuse when you go ahead and abuse animals yourself.
Videos bad but not that bad. It's not like taunting or killing animals or the worst of all which are crush videos.
I've never seen a crush video with puppies or kittens, I'd never have the heart to watch one.
I'm pretty stoic but beheading living people with knifes or saws, stomping young animals to death (or any animal), and excrement consumption are all things that make me dry heave and usually cause me to flee into another room or leave the premise altogether.
It's not undertaken by everyone, though, is it? And your solo proactive step does absolutely nothing to prevent it. So what you just said is as redundant as saying "if everyone stopped abusing animals there'd be no animal abuse". Mind = blown.
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Your attitude is exactly the logic used by slave owners. "If I stop having slaves, it isn't going to stop it overall, so why bother?". Same logic could be applied to pedophiles, rapists, murderers, etc.. One person isn't going to affect overall numbers, so what's the point, right?
Black slavery was not stopped by slave owners all deciding one day that it was wrong; nor was it stopped by people refusing to wear cotton socks. It was stopped by legal means. And there is still more slavery in the world today than at any time in history.
So respond to this:
It's well known that working conditions at Chinese factories are diabolical. So why don't you stop using your PC, if you really believe there is a point in one person taking a stand?
Or is there only a point when it doesn't actually inconvenience you too much?
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