Should Fat People Be Shamed?

I guess most people live their lives thinking about what others will think about them. This is the problem.

Fat people should be worried, not shamed.

Worried and more aware about their health, especially if they enjoy life, and want to live (not just survive with several diseases) for a long time.

Shame is a crazy useless paranoia.

Fat people have psychological conflicts. Food is just an escape.

So, if you are fat, accept your condition as a problem and face it. Solve it once for all.

There's a solution.

not really, what you posted doesn't make sense.
there are no real health benefits to having a bigger dick, tits or being attractive. smoking and drinking is discouraged by not allowing smoking in just about any public place and only allowing drinking in licensed establishments. by your logic, if its the same, fat people are not allowed to be fat in public and can't eat big macs while driving which is obviously not the case. also, other than smoking and drinking there is nothing that can naturally be done to fix these things, unlike losing weight, eating right and exercising.

What a conundrum this whole overweight thing is. On the one hand I'm not comfortable with the shaming tactic a lot of people ascribe to, I think it's just demeaning and demoralizing. But on the other hand I also don't agree with this 'movement' that's been going on out there saying "You're fine just the way you are", "big is still beautiful" etc, almost telling people it's okay to be fat. It isn't. Not healthwise, not looks-wise, not anything-wise. And it's a drain on society, on health care, on the economy.

My personal experience over the past 12 years is that after being the tall well-built slim-waisted guy for most of my life I started to gain weight after injuring my back in the late 90's and then working from home with said bad back for many years. Worsening pain = less excercise. If not for my usual diet and eating habits I would have become a 500 lb whale.

Over this past year I have lost (so far) roughly 17 lbs, just from adjusting my eating habits slightly. I now eat 4 to 5 meals a day instead of 3. For the smaller in-between-meal meals and over lunch I eat things like grapefruit slices, raw baby carrots, a handful of nuts (that include almonds, or almonds-only), or a small cup-full of yogurt with all-bran sprinkled on top.

For breakfast and dinner I haven't changed much of anything. I still love a good steak, fried chicken from time to time, bbq'd ribs, even pork chops. I've found that it isn't so much what you eat, it's how you eat that trains your metabolism to speed up and start burning fat instead of storing it.

I just had a series of cortison injections to my lower spine, so I'm hoping that I'll be able to start working out again some and getting back out on my mountain bike, which should gain me back some of my lost muscle mass. Hopefully I'll be looking more like my old hulkish self again by the fall.

Fat-wise the last five years or so have been the worst. Beleive me I've been on the receiving end of the shame card. That was one of the biggest eye-openers for me, having people who you think care about you basically making you feel like less than shit. There has to be a better way to motivate someone. Me, I motivate myself. It's my bod, the only one I have, no one else is going to get it in shape.

Here's hoping these injections work. :D

easy to spot the ones who are obese in this thread.

calories are cheap, nutrition is not. So yes.

A final thought for those who talk about "addiction to sugar"

Many years ago, I found myself in that cycle. I was eating a crazy amount of junk food and chocolate was my favorite. I ate a crazy amount of chocolate.

One day, i bit into a piece of cake from a high end bakery and was instantly swept away with a sensation of euphoria.

My response?? To eat more? No.

I was scared.

My first thought was "oh shit... what the fuck!?"

I was scared because I instantly understood what was happening and I understood the implications.

I instantly understood that I had crossed from just eating like an asshole to getting a "high" from eating certain foods.

My response?

I understood that there was a serious problem.
I accepted there was a serious problem.
I knew I needed to be real and deal with this problem.
I put down my fork and threw it away.

I went back to all my nutrition books, I read everything I could, I did everything to understand the mechanisms that would cause me to feel "high" by simply putting a piece of food in my mouth.

I understood the stress the excess sugar was causing the pancreas.

I understood the problems this was causing with insulin production and regulation, I understood this constant sugar eating was causing my pancreas to spin out of control, I understood the body's ability to effectively transport and utilize sugars for energy was being diminished by the day, I understood that insulin resistance and adult onset diabetes would be the inevitable outcome.

I cut out all sugars, I dropped my carbs to less than 20 grams per day. I put my body into a state of ketosis. That allows your pancrease/insulin feedback loop to reset. It causes all cravings for sugars to go away.

I got back on the treadmill.
I started boxing again.

I dropped my weight from ~240 down to 170lbs... and never had that sensation again about a piece of food.

How did I understand all these things?

Did God come down from the heavens like he did with Kanye West (his version) and touch me with the "gift"?

Of course not.

I took responsibility for my behavior.
I took responsibility for the outcomes of my behavior.

I went back to reading, reading, reading and reading to force myself to remember and re-learn some of most basic physiological functions and processes and how to control them through diet and exercise.

Quite simply, if you talk about "addiction" as a cause of obesity, you are a piece of shit.

You are the problem.
You are an enabler.
You are helping people kill themselves by validating self destructive and even suicidal behaviors.

How about you start helping people?

How about you start saying "hey, people get this shit under control all day, everyday, in every country, all over the world... how about you stop your bullshit of lying to yourself and others and start accepting responsibility for yourself, the food that you shove into your mouth and the RESULT of YOUR OWN ACTIONS?"

That would be an useful message for positive change and helping people.......

Do you think that fat people will avoid being in public if they know they will be shamed
as soon as they hit the sidewalk? Of course they will, so no, they can't go out driving
and eating big macs with people distracting them to shame them.



You know, I think over weight people should lose weight.

The difference between me and you is I don't think overweight people are so stupid
that they didn't look in the mirror and figure this out for themselves, and I don't really
need to tell anyone what is so obvious to them already.

You act like you have some magic words that fat people haven't thought of
that can help them.

There was a murder mystery on youtube that's been taken down already because of
copyright; but in the mystery they finally got a death bed confession from a elderly
women after promising her she would be allowed to die in the nursing home.
She said she shot one female in the face and the other one in the head, killing
both of them, after she told them she was quitting her job at the ice cream parlor with
them because they had shamed her for being fat and kind of butch.

This "shame the fat people" idea will probably end up going down that road.
People don't really believe that are required to take shit from you because you think
they are unhealthy.

I think it's unhealthy for me to shame people into busting a cap in my ass.

Fat people are already shamed, I was 215 for the longest time. Hurt my back really bad and went from golfing 6 times a week to not at all for over a year.
I remember weighing 310 and I was treated a lot different.
Some may have been scared of the huge blad guy but when I got back down to 185 I didn't have that feeling anymore.

What about parents with obese kids, should they be shamed and charged with child abuse? After all isn't it a parents responsibility to ensure the health and well being of their spawn?

Yeah, and If a teacher catches a kid playing with his dick we should make the parents eat a porno mag and register as sex abusers.

It's probably ego building for a child to see his parents arrested because he's too fat.



Can parents put the fat kid up for adoption to avoid further charges? Gotta discourage re-offenders ya know.