Should Fat People Be Shamed?

That description was perfect. Ground up cardboard with meat flavoring. I'm going to use that!

You can do a lot with a little. I spend maybe $150 to $200 a month on food. Total. I really don't get people who can blow through even more than that on designer take out coffee a month yet complain about food prices.

it sounds amusing, but I'm only slightly exaggerating... many crap quality products are pretty much that, for example it may say "meat FLAVORED patties" on the box, and when you look at the ingredients, there is no meat in them, just some soy protein or some other crap and meat flavoring..

On some certain occasions "fat" is not a choice. Some people have that kinda structure and whatever they do / diets, plans etc. - the result is same.
Sometimes there's problem with hormones and metabolism - you can't beat the nature.
People are just what they are. Google "fat aerobics instructor" - there was a guy who was aerobics instructor, and started to gain weight, due to some problems with metabolism.
The first Tokugawa shogun - Ieyasu / according to the stuff I read/ was fat, but he never turned out from the path of the samurai - he never ate too much, but still he was gaining weight.

BUT if you mean people who once were thin and through the years were eating with no control and never made effort to get in shape different than "circle" or "oval" - that's other story. In all the cases people should be judged for the deeds they do, for the things they made, not because of their race, sexual orientation or body structure.

Check this guy:

Exactly. You also choose your cravings. The issue to me is quite simple... i ask "are we better off with people eating and living healthy, or not". The answer is clear, so making any other argument, enabling bad behaviors, validating absurd/self destructive excuses and so on is part of the problem, not the solution.


Here is a funny side note about human behavior that applies to this discussion.

People tend to look at things largely in terms of cause and effect. We do this because we perceive this connection to exist - even when it doesn't exist or when its 100% irrational. A happened. As a result, you responded with rage (B), therefore, A caused B. In other words, we'll say "this ipad is pissing me off" - where its 100% irrational to give an inanimate object the power to affect your moods or drive you to rage. It's sadly even built into our language to reinforce these emotionally unhealthy and unsound ideas.

People tend to either place themselves either at cause, or at effect. In other words, YOU most likely accept 100% responsibility for your strength and size gains - you place yourself at cause.You know when you're not resting enough. You know when you're not getting enough fluids. You analyze and tweak your diet, you analyze and tweak your workouts etc. You understand that strength and size gains are not things that "happen to you" but rather things you have 100% control over to either make happen or not happen.

People also place themselves at effect. Everything has an excuse. Everything has something to blame. Everything is something happening to them.

Think about this carefully when you read this forum and observe peoples behaviors because this is a super interesting thing to observe...

People that place themselves at effect, accept little to no responsibility for their own actions and decisions and the resulting outcomes.. It's happening to them. It's not their fault. They believe they need to change external things to affect themselves as they've externalized the cause. BUT... that's not what they focus on.

What they tend to focus on is this....

they make themselves responsible for the outcomes of others who also place themselves at effect. This is part of the process of validating their own views, beliefs, perceptions etc. They have an interesting way of constantly championing those who place themselves at effect by insisting we change the world around them.

Notice its the same characters blaming anything and everything on something else. Its always a conspiracy against them. The cause is always something else. It's always external. It's always the other thing. It has to be, otherwise, what is the true answer? Accept personal accountability? That's typically not a well received message for someone who's shaped their lives and identity around the opposite.

You cannot gain fat without eating more calories than you burn. That's a simple indisputable fact of physics, not opinion.

Nothing else to read here folks, we can close this thread!

i eat fruit daily, i mean almost with every meal. canned fruit, fresh fruit, all of it. it's so underrated for its micronutrients and healthy combo of sugar and fiber.

but i try and eat proper proportions so i eat more fiberous foods and less meats and such these days.

also, i am seriously diabetic and see the value in fruit and have seen many times the lack of a dramatic impact it makes on my blood glucose readings. the fiber slows everything down.

one thing about sugar-

our digestive system breaks down carbs to simple sugar, mostly glucose, which is the simple sugar our bodies use for energy.


no glucose in your bloodstream means no energy and you will soon be in keto.

i like fruit

I know you ain't lying...

A $1 box of oatmeal makes about 50 breakfast meals.

you can buy 10lbs of quaker oats for 8.99 at costco

Food glorious food

Should guys with small dicks be burned on the nut sac with a cigar to encourage then
to try penis enlargement?

Do we get to spit in the face of ugly people too?

What about people who drink too much, can we kick them in the liver to make them
drink less?

Can we use a flame thrower on a smoker's lips?

When chicks have small tits can we run by and grab them in an attempt to stretch them
bigger?


That all makes the same amount of sense as what you propose for fat people.