Should Fat People Be Shamed?

Nope, nobody should be shamed about the way they look. Someone can always find a fault with the way you look and shame you too! Worry about yourself and not how others live their life!

You can eat a diet of home made pasta and perogies and eat organic strawberries, bananas and granola by the pound, will an overweight person lose weight doing that? Not a fucking chance. Why? it's loaded with sugar, is there HFCS in it? who gives a shit? sugar makes you gain weight and a diet high in ANY sugars is going cause weight gain no matter how much you exercise. Carb control is not a fad, it is the only way that works effectively whether you are a bodybuilder in a cut or someone who needs to lose 100+ lbs.

I would never mock someone for being fat, I would happily help them with it though--and I have. Just by changing the timing of when you eat these things you can make a big impact.

you are under the assumption that doctors know something about nutrition? Almost none do and are often overweight themselves so they aren't going to help you. Most people are on their own when it comes to this stuff. The answers are easy once you find them, but finding the right way is far from easy with the flood of morons giving horrible advice based on lies. We can't go blaming parents either, because their images of what is healthy have been based on bad advice from 'experts' just the same.

think it comes down to time and stress. you make x amount to live per year, there is going to be a whole world of 'experience' that doesn't seem to get taken into account with 'the collecting welfare check' argument.

When you're trying to figure out how to feed and cloth your kids, im assuming 'taking the time to review my life choices' doesn't come up high on the priority list. It's too bad there isn't some form of support centers, but that's communism

furthermore, you get into how many of these families have had family fighting in wars, and it becomes less a 'lazy poor person' scenario, and more a 'traumatized survivor' one

Except it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that anything that comes in a pretty box that you microwave isnt healthy. To me thats just a list of excuses. It takes me 25 minutes from start to finish to cook 4lbs of 96% grass fed lean beef and 3lbs of broc. feed me for 2x meals a day for 3 days. It takes longer to drive to mcdonalds get burgers and come home. Not to mention CHEAPER. all that beef costs me 22 dollars at costco, plus 3 dollars for broccoli when its on sale. 25 dollars for 6 meals is pretty dang good. They arent small portions either.

As Glen said, carbs are what make you fat...they feed cows what, GRAINS...to fatten them up. Went from 400G carbs a day to now a little over 75G in 3 weeks ive lost 8 lbs. Yea im sure a lot was glycogen and water but that should say something to ya

make p90x mandatory

good job on the 8 pounds

generally i consider 5 to be poop weight, but i suppose everyone's different.

Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated. Hahah I feel ya on that one. I weigh in at the same time (post poop, first thing in the AM), eat the same thing every single day (no its not boring for me).

Dont have much to lose tho, down to 8.7% bf as of last night, shooting for 7% by MDW, and 6-5% by july. Tossing around the idea of competing, but not really a huge fan of what comes with that territory. More or less doing this for personal goals and to see if "i can do it"

He's ignoring the obvious fact in his horribly flawed reasoning that has little basis in physiology, neurobiology and psychology in terms of cause and effect in that anything that makes you "feel good" basically works in the same way. Jerking off. Playing poker. Seeing a sunrise. Falling in love. Etc.

At the end of the day, addiction is a complicated thing and happens through a variety of neurological pathways, with some being more physical/chemical and most being more emotional (dependency/self medicating) - however, people can still make the choice to be addicted, not addicted or to stop their addiction.... no matter how bad anyone thinks it is. People wake up every single day and give up "addictions" because they understand its the right thing to do. Many 1000s of people today across the world who are habitual drinkers, pot smokers or compulsive eaters will decide they've had enough and stop. It's called self control and discipline. "addiction" is an excuse for weakness. Being "addicted" to anything does not mean you cannot exert control over it and stop. It happens all day, everyday, all over the world for any type of compulsive behavior or addiction.

A simple example of this is phobias. I believe the single most commonly treated problem by psychiatrists are phobias. People spend large parts of their lives being petrified of something. Without getting into a long winded discussion of the hows, the whys, the where's, the when's, the chemical processes of the brain, emotions, feelings and what horrible event "causes them to feel this way" and so on... just ask a simple question "how do people who get over phobia's do it on their own?", "how do people who's lives are crippled by compulsive behaviors change on their own?"

Answer... simple. The simple decide that they are acting like idiots and declare that enough is enough and start changing their behaviors.

The same is true of this so called "addiction" to sugar. You can either change your eating habits and make good choices and act responsibly, or one can declare themselves an "addict" with the full support of the enablers around them and ultimately live a much shorter and much more unfulfilling life.

You know full well as someone who has a grasp on nutrition that simple carbs and sugars cause cravings for more of the same and that when you increase protein and fibrous vegetables and stabilize your blood sugar levels, those cravings disappear.

I started doing keto last week, I'm down 7 pounds.

so your not horribly flawed reasoning is sugar is good for you?

Why do they behave like tobacco companies then?

And by the way, you can be "fat" or "obese" and be healthy.... but not for very long. And its thoroughly unrealistic to believe you aren't going to live a shorter life and be much more unacceptable to a wide range of weight related illnesses.

Every additional 10 pounds of fat requires another 60-80 miles of blood vessels for your heart to pump blood through. If you think that "not a problem", and "not a problem over the long term", and can reason that you're "healthy",... then you just can't be helped.

yup, didn't feel up to trying to impart that ehe. the other part, and a big problem is that peeps extract from the sugar thing, that fruit is bad for us.

HI, care for an apple? pfft, no way, that thing is loaded with sugar. well, yes, but, well, neverfuckngmind.

Do you feel theres a time and a place for fruits? What are your thoughts on that?

First of all you fucking dickhead with the retarded, misleading rhetorical questions where you cowardly refuse to actually make an argument.... the OBVIOUS answer is no.

I did not say sugar is good for you. Excess sugar is clearly bad for you.

Its a perfect example of your idiotic reasoning and perfectly illustrates what a total fucking mental midget you are. A coward. Wanting to sound smart, but just can't find the words to convince people you're smart. Wanting others to think you're smart... but understanding that if you actually take a risk and try to formulate opinions, positions and arguments, you'll remove any doubt whatsoever as to how dumb you truly are.

Second of all you ignorant twat... YOUR BODY RUNS ON SUGAR. YOUR BRAIN RUNS ON SUGAR. YOUR MUSCLES ARE FUELED BY SUGAR. YOU HAVE A GLUCOSE METABOLISM and every system that keeps you alive depends on SUGAR.

Thirdly, as can be expected with you being such a dipshit... tabacco companies have nothing to do with "addiction to sugar".

Lastly, anyone can proclaim themselves to be addicted to anything as they do all day long. So if "i'm addicted to sugar and am perfectly happy living a shorter life, crippled by obesity and struggling with weight related disease and health issues" is a satisfying position... then cool. Be "addicted"