srockhard

plus me...we all put in a grand to buy an amazing cam domain name. We put a streamate white label on the domain and send massive amounts of traffic to it. Every month 1 guy takes 50% of all earnings for himself and the other 50% is split among the other 11 guys and we take turns going around so that every year you get a massive payout.

slaughter me

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Dankasaur

And who controls the domain? Sorry but it'll never work out.

srockhard

Not sure. Perhaps a 3rd party?

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georgeyw

Split evenly all year round OR get a loan and buy the domain for yourself.

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xNetworx

Define "massive"

CurrentlySober

OK, I'll play along - So I am the 3rd party - For sake of argument. The 'Silent Partner'...

I control the domain name, provide the payouts to each person on time, and I provide proof that the stats are genuine... (& I do this above board and 100% legit)

Well, I'm not gonna work for free... So whats in it for me?

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CurrentlySober

Just thought...

The thread title shouldn't read '11 Guys'...

It should really read '12 Angry Men'

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CurrentlySober

Yes, cause the guy thats gets his 50% in the last month, is gonna get more, cause its an aged domain

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Fat Panda

what amazing cam domain can be bought for $12K ?

mineistaken

How do you send traffic? How do you make sure every guy sends equal amount/quality to justify equal profit split? Or you pay for traffic equal amount?

And not sure why that 50% for one and 50% for all thing, what if one month is better than another, this means you won't get equal shares.

globofun

I love Five Guys.....

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I love two, but hopefully, if they dont find out about each other, we should be good for a few more years...

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CurrentlySober

The 12th guys job description

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by the way, that jew guy tried something like this and see how well it worked out for him: everybody profited and he ended quite fucked up and crying to some imaginary friend because he left him

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helterskelter808

That's what I thought. Stupid idea, if true. Or is this meant to be hypothetical?

If so, buy a shit name (like Livejasmin is, or Streamate is) and use $11,990 for more traffic.

Sly

Being in business with one partner is difficult enough. Multiply that by 11? LOL. Sounds fun!

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digitalfantasies

I have registered several amazing cam domains for $9,95

I can see now I should've registered those those names with a bunch of guys, let's say 11

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lazycash

So what happens when just a few of the 12 work their ass off to send traffic and the others sit back and watch? I like the idea with maybe 3-5 partners and each putting in a lot more than a grand.

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lazycash

Streamate controls the domain when doing a white label with them, although in some cases they'll make an exception.

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ErectMedia

has their address on it for billing purposes but domains can still be in your own account with your own email and phone # on them

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lazycash

As I said, there are exceptions, but most of the time they want you to transfer the domain into their control. Most of the streamate white labels will have [email protected] as the registrants email.

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ErectMedia

don't think I would do that, not that I don't trust them just like to have all of my domains in my own account as shit happens

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lazycash

Which is why I've seen them make exceptions with high value or sponsor domains. In many cases they do the logo and branding and the last thing they want is you to transfer the domain to another program and take the site's recurring base with you.

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srockhard

Wow thanks for the feedback guys...I learned this model from some Vietnamese friends who have hundreds of businesses in their community in Seattle and Pacific NW area. Basically giving the big payout to one person each month gives that person enough capital to start something bigger on their own....for them its a nail salon or sandwich shop.

This post was definitely hypothetical. Though I would still consider this with the right people involved...not exactly sure how it would all go down. I had been dreaming about going to Vegas back in January and forming some kind of partnership but I didn't make to sin city.

I think the big thing for me is just pushing my current white labels as hard as possible and never feeling like I'm getting over the hump...plus sharing the excitement would be fucking cool too when you do finally get over the humps or achieve a new milestone.

whatever...lol...it is what it is ;) ...or isn't.

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freecartoonporn

12 partners wont be an issue, but the sharing method will be.
split everything in 12 equal parts.
that will surely work out.

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Roald

imo 12 partners will be an issue unless its very clearly defined what each partner brings (besides the start capital). Also the 1 month 50% is not a good idea since cam earnings can vary a lot from month to month.

In short, I would not do it ;)

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Sly

I could see this working for a closely knit Asian community. Americans, or any Westerner, no way. Definitely not white people.

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You will lose money. (if you plan to buy traffic)

Lichen

You remain in control of the domain. They only ask you to change the whois.

woj

I don't see it working out at all, maybe it could work if it was a completely passive investment, but if there is any work involved, expenses, etc... no way it would work out....

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helterskelter808

Don't get me wrong, I like you, and like your posts, which is why I'm surprised you don't know what you are talking about with this subject, but you are wrong.

Perhaps in the dim and distant past, when having a Streamate WL was still unusual, what you describe is how it happened, but it's not the case at all that they only 'make exceptions for high value or sponsor domains'. They routinely allow the domain owner to use their own email because they don't require a Streamate email for billing, so the domain owner can continue to receive emails related to their domain. Streamate has no interest in controlling or taking people's domains.

Furthermore, even if you were using someone else's email, you still wouldn't lose control of the domain because that resides in the control panel of whatever registrar you use; what's on the whois has nothing to do with it. Even if you don't understand how a Streamate WL works, you should at least understand how a domain registration works.

As to taking a recurring membership base elsewhere, why would you be insane enough to do that? At best you're going to get recurring signups at the same or lower percentage, but in reality you're going to lose a lot of those members, who don't know what's going on, don't understand why they're not members of the site any more, and can't find their favorite models.

Finally, the idea that someone would go to the time and trouble of getting a Streamate WL just so Streamate would spend a few weeks creating a logo for them, so they could then use that logo with a different WL is beyond ludicrous.

lazycash

I'm well aware of how a Streamate WL works, and certainly understand how domain registration works, not sure you even understood my post. I have seen dozens of their WL's that have all of FCI's info in the whois including their email and other WL's that don't, and I've had both myself. Sorry you don't understand how taking a recurring base over to another sponsor during a pps promo can be a windfall for an affiliate. I've been a streamate/mtree affiliate since 2002 and realize over the years they have had different policies regarding their WL's, what I said was based on my personal experience as well as many colleagues.

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Rochard

Here's a better idea... Why not just just buy a fucking great domain name?

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helterskelter808

Dude, we had exactly the same discussion last year about the Streamate WL whois (a subject you love to bring up, despite not understanding it), and you were as clueless then as you somehow still are now, despite having the exact same shit explained to you back then as myself and others have patiently tried to explain to you in this thread.

Sorry you don't understand how switching a WL means all members will immediately lose their paid for access to a site, lose contact with all the models they like, and lose all the credit they have on the site, causing them to think your site is a scam (which it would be), and potentially charge back everything they have spent.

duk75

Don't do it with streamate, do it with something else. And, obviously you should divide equally the earnings, and you should use my link to register the site
My links:
Awempire (livejasmin)
Webcamwiz
xlovecam
chaturbate

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lazycash

I've had it explained to me directly by streamate and I'm relaying exactly what they told me on mine, both old ones and new. Look at the whois of Crak's streamate white label they use in their program, all FCI including the email. I'm partners in a streamate WL on a premium cam domain where no FCI info is in the whois because we requested it of them. On your streamate white label does FCI have their email listed under all contacts in the whois?

My initial point was that the 12 guys in the thread starters scenario wouldn't have to worry about whose name the domain would be in, since the whois would be in FCI. I never said FCI would take the domain or that the registrant couldn't move it, I have no idea what you think I don't understand, but you certainly aren't explaining anything to me that I don't already know. I fully understand what switching a long term WL does, I wasn't suggesting doing it, just that its a possibility.

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