yes. charles dickens spent some of his time in NYC fighting piracy of his books! 1850 or 2013, some things never change.

but my point is mostly there are no more lazy people today then in 1960. we just have a WWW that takes the whimsical brainfarts of bored bloggers & makes them viral. at this point if a read anything with the word "study" in it i basically tune out.

where are you getting this info? i'm not disagreeing, just interested and i can't find any data of this.

I'm 28, we were the generation who grew up with the cell phone and technology boom and have experienced life both with and without it. I feel like we are the last generation before things took a turn for the worse.

http://www.bartleby.com/73/195.html
NUMBER: 195
AUTHOR: Socrates (469?399 B.C.)
QUOTATION: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.


Its the same old song. lol

i was able to find this, some % of startups are by business entities, obviously, but this may be revealing.

http://online.wsj.com/media/startup1.JPG


can't seem to find anything pre-1980, i'll keep snooping around.

Really? Back in the day,
You had a job out of high school that paid decent and if you didn't steal you basically had a job for life.
You had a pension when you retired
You had public colleges and some were free or inexpensive. Andrew Groves of Intel came out of the free city college in New York.

Unfortunately this country's joined the world economy and 'globalized' putting an end to the freeloaders of the past.

Now, you actually have to EARN a decent wage. It's not an entitlement any longer.

:2 cents:

Freeloaders of the past? You owe your living to Andy Grove. lol

So......... lemme get this straight.........

Just because Grove invented Intel/semiconductor, which led to many of the technologies of today, that somehow his creation that led to the computer has somehow magically put money in my bank account with no effort of any kind on my part? I could just sit around in my underwear at a computer all day and watch money just flow like wine and do absolutely no work of any kind on my part? I guess more people need to sit in front of the computers 12-18 hours a day and they also could watch money just magically hit their bank accounts with little effort.

I think you're missing the point here. Technology is great. It makes everyone's life easier than the generation before it. However, we are talking about WORK ETHIC not technology.

:2 cents:

agreed :thumbsup

I think what happened to America was, no one wants to do anything these days. Also, too many people are born into easy ass situations. Even I was, sort of.

:thumbsup

Yeap they are indeed :)

i slept on this thread & decided that the Disney channel is to blame for how young people have unrealistic views of the world.

Well, without generalizing.

The general shift towards dumbification, an absence of any "role models" in any real sense of the word, the shortest attention span and most exposure to massmedia in the history, not the best mix for one rising up.

of coarse they are lazy. video games are way better now than when we were kids

Sounds like you felt backhanded there slightly! :1orglaugh

Think of a nice spin off of this, if you have lots of nice things it'll make it even easier to pick up one of those really pretty me-generation girls. :2 cents:

Could be no one does nay parenting any more with there teenagers

Not only that but peer pressure and the constant fear that you'll be "reported to social services" unless you coddle your kids to the extreme, no matter how out of control and entitled they act in public places. With cell phones everywhere and everyone watching, good luck trying to keep an out of control kid from acting out in public. Next thing you know, your on YouTube with a caption like "Mother of the Year" runner up! :warning

"Pull your pants up, turn your hat around, throw your cell phone away and get a fucking job"

Just my advise.

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Good luck with that part in the US...