5 year old kills 2 year old sister with "my first rifle"

A few years ago I would have agreed with that 100%. What I've personally seen in the last few years has changed my perception though.

In YOUR circles and MY circles I'd say your statement is a fact. However, there's a metric shit ton of fucking morons out there who own guns and they are anything but "safe & responsible" gun owners. People like the family involved in this horrible situation for instance.

I started shooting around 6 years old and hunting at 12 or 13. Through my entire childhood ALL the guns in the house were kept locked up. Even after I turned 18, my guns were still kept in my dads safe and I didn't have the combination. When I moved out, I got my own locking gun cabinet. To this day, I am the ONLY person who has the combination to my safe. Not even my wife can get into it.

I carry a gun daily and currently shoot an average of 4 days a week. That puts me around other shooters quite a bit. It amazes me how some of these clowns treat their weapons and the people around them. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't find myself correcting somebodies unsafe practices. Then there are the fucktards who grab a truck full of guns, fill their coolers with beer, and take their friends and family shooting. I see this type of tool on a regular basis. As soon as they show up, I leave the area.

I am VERY MUCH pro gun and I believe that those who are truly responsible should have the right to own and carry. But if you're going to stand there muzzling people with your "gat" while chugging a beer and ranting about your Constitutional rights then you can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.

That's soooooo fucked up.

If I had a gun, I would have shot him

Define average person? Do you know how many registered hunters there are in the US? Around 15 million according to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Most states require a hunters safety course. Your argument doesn't hold water.

" the rifle in this case actually belonged to the child, the Lexington Herald-Leader reports. The gun, which he received as a gift last year, was inadvertently left loaded with a single shell in a corner of the family's home."

Welcome to USA of NRA

The thing is EVERY gun owner says the same thing. EVERY gun owner will claim that he is a responsible gun owner and that the morons shouldn't have guns. Just like every car driver thinks he drives better than other people.
So basically this makes it a worthless argument.

Guns don't kill people.

5 year olds kill people.

If don't try to find the root of the problems things are just gonna escalate. I don't know why there aren't any intellectuals sitting and discussing these issues on open TV. I guess b/c ratings are gonna go down. People would rather watch Ricky Lake show.
I haven't had a TV for the past 15 years.

The 2nd Amendment:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

".well regulated.." please don't misinterpret this very clear provision. A "my first rifle", loaded and leaning against a wall while no parents are home? Not even fucking close, bro's.

i can live with that

All these talks about amendments remind of what Lincoln once said. "DO NOT TOUCH THE CONSTITUTION". We'll I think that's wrong. The constitution must be amended continuously as we evolve to reflect the new times. Don't put too much emphasis on amendments as on reason.

Ricky lake...isn't that like 15 years old?

You are correct, in that it refers to well trained people, and that it also refers to men, aged 18 and older, who can, in times of emergency, act as a militia.

If you take a look at the federalist papers, and read the majority opinion in "Heller Vrs. Washington DC" you will see the references.



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that will all be fine and dandy until some right-wing christian government gets into power and decides to change the first amendment to read "....except for online porn".





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Every year just over 30,000 people die in the US from gunshot wounds. Every two years more US citizens are killed by gunshot wounds than were lost in the entire Vietnam war.

Lets look at this another way. With a population of 310 million and an annual death rate of 8.3/1000 , we can calculate that 2,573,000 people die in the US each year.
Of which 30,000 die of Gun Shot - so if you live in the US you have a 1.166% chance that you will die of Gun Shot wound. The rate of gunshot deaths is about 8 times that of economically comparable nations.

bottomline: USA sucks balls badly and yet calls for even MORE arms ... poor brain-washed dummies obey, consume and follow ... sheesh

Lets pretend it means and even says "well trained" though. The first order of business when it comes to training is being able to tell who has passed the training. FAIL. There is no standard test to buy a fire arm. No shooting test, no eye test.. is there any training whatsoever? Then it's fail. There is no regulation until we impose regulations. Another word for that is government. The sale of firearms needs to be governed. Nothing could be more clear.