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  • scottybuzz
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    • May 2006
    • 14799

    #1

    5 year old kills 2 year old sister with "my first rifle"

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...-shot/2126431/



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  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46923

    #2
    Originally posted by scottybuzz
    Obviously it's tragic.

    The remaining child needs to be taken from the parents and they should be prosecuted.

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    • _Richard_
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      • Oct 2006
      • 30991

      #3
      damn that is sad

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      • BlackCrayon
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        • Jun 2003
        • 19634

        #4
        guns shouldn't be marketed to kids under 16.
        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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        • Penny24Seven
          So Fucking What
          • Jun 2007
          • 6287

          #5
          if the 2 year old had a gun
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          • tokmansta
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            • Jan 2013
            • 566

            #6
            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
            guns shouldn't be marketed to kids under 16.
            under 21...

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            • sandman!
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              • Mar 2001
              • 15431

              #7
              sad
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              • adult-help
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                • Mar 2008
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                #8
                who the fuck gives a gun as a gift to 4 year old child? only in america!

                sadly the only thing that comes to my mind in regards to this incident is sarcastic : 'merica fuck yeah
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                • Scott McD
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                  • Nov 2002
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                  #9
                  Well isn't that just great...


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                  • MaDalton
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                    • Feb 2004
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                    #10
                    should have bought one of those




                    on a serious note: i'd prefer a world with no guns but since thats not possible, parents should at least make sure they are out of reach of children.

                    and it's absurd that you can not have a beer until you are 21 but you can market guns to children: http://www.crickett.com/

                    i mean - wtf?

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                    • Rochard
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                      • Dec 2001
                      • 75733

                      #11
                      Fucking lack of supervision is what this is.

                      It has nothing to do with guns. When my kid was five and played outside, we used to sit and watch. No tablet, no cell phone, just watching. Yesterday I was outside washing my car and the neighborhood kids were playing outside, no parents at all. There are two houses with kids the same age and they are across the street from each other, and they cross the street all the time. Yesterday the six year old girl - the oldest of them all - waiting for a car to pass before crossing the street, then darted out behind it... Not noticing there was a second car that might have hit her. It wasn't "danger close" but it was the thought.

                      These kids are four and five years old and completely unsupervised on a daily basis.
                      Herschel Savage
                      Brooklyn, NY

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                      • Fat Panda
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                        • Aug 2006
                        • 13296

                        #12
                        the parents of this child should be ARRESTED and charged with MURDER

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                        • CyberHustler
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 28724

                          #13
                          where's Franck?
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                          • 2012
                            So Fucking What
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 17189

                            #14
                            demonize gun owners
                            demonize gun owners
                            demonize gun owners
                            demonize gun owners

                            yea !



                            only the good folks looking out for your best interests at "the government" should have guns
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                            • Dirty F
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                              • Jul 2001
                              • 59204

                              #15
                              Originally posted by adult-help
                              who the fuck gives a gun as a gift to 4 year old child? only in america!

                              sadly the only thing that comes to my mind in regards to this incident is sarcastic : 'merica fuck yeah
                              Only in America and a bunch of other 3rd world countries.

                              I'm 100% sure the parents considered themselves responsible gun owners. And often mentioned how irresponsible gun owners are the true problem.

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                              • Dirty F
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                                • Jul 2001
                                • 59204

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                Fucking lack of supervision is what this is.

                                It has nothing to do with guns.
                                That's fucking odd then. I could swear the 2 year old was killed with a gun. But i might be wrong. I'll read it again.

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                                • Dirty F
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                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 59204

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 2012
                                  demonize gun owners
                                  demonize gun owners
                                  demonize gun owners
                                  demonize gun owners

                                  yea !



                                  only the good folks looking out for your best interests at "the government" should have guns
                                  It certainly would make things much, much safer.

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                                  • crockett
                                    in a van by the river
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 76818

                                    #18
                                    Obviously, the parents were competent gun owners and the solution would be to make sure all 2 year olds have their own guns to defend themselves.

                                    Anyone whom thinks otherwise hates freedom and is treading on my rights!
                                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                    • L-Pink
                                      working on my tan
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 39151

                                      #19
                                      Nothing wrong with giving a kid a gun for a gift if it's only brought out at a range, safe place in the country, etc.

                                      The fact it was not in a gun safe but in a corner of the family room, loaded yet, should leave the parents open for negligent manslaughter.

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                                      • Dirty F
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                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 59204

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                        Nothing wrong with giving a kid a gun for a gift if it's only brought out at a range, safe place in the country, etc.

                                        The fact it was not in a gun safe but in a corner of the family room, loaded yet, should leave the parents open for negligent manslaughter.
                                        Sure, nothing wrong with it. I mean what's the worst thing that could happen.

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                                        • Rochard
                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 75733

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                          Obviously, the parents were competent gun owners and the solution would be to make sure all 2 year olds have their own guns to defend themselves.

                                          Anyone whom thinks otherwise hates freedom and is treading on my rights!
                                          Well, if his sister was armed she would have been able to defend herself.
                                          Herschel Savage
                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                          • BlackCrayon
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                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 19634

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                            Nothing wrong with giving a kid a gun for a gift if it's only brought out at a range, safe place in the country, etc.

                                            The fact it was not in a gun safe but in a corner of the family room, loaded yet, should leave the parents open for negligent manslaughter.
                                            a five year old though? they don't even know how to write but they should be using guns? i don't think there is anything wrong with teenagers learning how to shoot, preferably by taking a course. this is how it was around my area in high school. if the guys wanted to shoot guns they had to take a hunting course that taught them how to properly use, store and maintain a gun. they were only able to take this course at 15/16 years old.
                                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                            • SuckOnThis
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                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 6844

                                              #23

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                                              • L-Pink
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                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 39151

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                Sure, nothing wrong with it. I mean what's the worst thing that could happen.
                                                When I moved back to Florida years ago I gave a vintage Chevy pickup to my godson who was 9 ? "what's the worst thing that could happen"

                                                Well if he has responsible parents a lot of positive things.

                                                .

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                                                • Fat Panda
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                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 13296

                                                  #25
                                                  according to the NRA if the 2 year old had a gun she could have DEFENDED herself

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                                                  • Dirty F
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                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 59204

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                    When I moved back to Florida years ago I gave a vintage Chevy pickup to my godson who was 9 ? "what's the worst thing that could happen"

                                                    Well if he has responsible parents a lot of positive things.

                                                    .
                                                    Do you realize how goddamn fucked up your country and your way of thinking is if you think there is nothing with giving guns to kids? You may think it's normal but believe me, it's not. It's insane.
                                                    The so called freedom thing in the US has gone wrong. Very wrong.

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                                                    • crockett
                                                      in a van by the river
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 76818

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                      a five year old though? they don't even know how to write but they should be using guns? i don't think there is anything wrong with teenagers learning how to shoot, preferably by taking a course. this is how it was around my area in high school. if the guys wanted to shoot guns they had to take a hunting course that taught them how to properly use, store and maintain a gun. they were only able to take this course at 15/16 years old.
                                                      Hey it was just a "little" gun marketed for kids.. no big deal..
                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                      • L-Pink
                                                        working on my tan
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 39151

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                        Do you realize how goddamn fucked up your country and your way of thinking is if you think there is nothing with giving guns to kids? You may think it's normal but believe me, it's not. It's insane.
                                                        The so called freedom thing in the US has gone wrong. Very wrong.

                                                        I was about that age when my grandfather gave me a .22 as well. I learned a gun wasn't a toy, you only took it out of the locked cabinet when my father was taking me can shooting, you never loaded the gun until you were in a safe place to shoot, you under no circumstances pointed a gun loaded or unloaded at anything you didn't want to shoot and the safety and trigger were never touched until the target was visible.

                                                        It's called responsibility ?.. something more people need.

                                                        .

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                                                        • geedub
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                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                          • 3489

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by adult-help
                                                          who the fuck gives a gun as a gift to 4 year old child? only in america!

                                                          sadly the only thing that comes to my mind in regards to this incident is sarcastic : 'merica fuck yeah
                                                          My grandpa gave me a .22lr for my 4th birthday, I still have it, my dad had to help me hold it when I shot it the first time. For my 12th birthday I got a Remington 870 express magnum 12ga. which I also still have. I have been shooting and hunting as long as I can remember and my dad has always showed me how to be responsible about owning firearms. You guys gotta realize there are way more people like me than there are people who do bad things. Obviously this is a horrible tragedy but at the end of the day the parents left a loaded rifle around some unattended kids. It's her fault, no one else.
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                                                          • crockett
                                                            in a van by the river
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 76818

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                            Do you realize how goddamn fucked up your country and your way of thinking is if you think there is nothing with giving guns to kids? You may think it's normal but believe me, it's not. It's insane.
                                                            The so called freedom thing in the US has gone wrong. Very wrong.
                                                            Oh I dunno Frank.. Looks like a pretty common thing.. You just hate freedom fries, just admit it..

                                                            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                            • Dirty F
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 59204

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                              I was about that age when my grandfather gave me a .22 as well. I learned a gun wasn't a toy, you only took it out of the locked cabinet when my father was taking me can shooting, you never loaded the gun until you were in a safe place to shoot, you under no circumstances pointed a gun loaded or unloaded at anything you didn't want to shoot and the safety and trigger were never touched until the target was visible.

                                                              It's called responsibility ?.. something more people need.

                                                              .
                                                              Let me repeat it again. It's not normal to give guns to children. You might think so because this word freedom has been repeated to you from the day you were born. But it really isn't. You and your country are fucked.

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                                                              • L-Pink
                                                                working on my tan
                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                • 39151

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                Let me repeat it again. It's not normal to give guns to children. You might think so because this word freedom has been repeated to you from the day you were born. But it really isn't. You and your country are fucked.
                                                                Freedom has nothing to do with anything. I can NEVER remember my parents even using the word. Different cultures. You have your point of view I have mine, why the open hostility?

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                                                                • helterskelter808
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                                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                                  • 3405

                                                                  #33
                                                                  The killer has a mental age of 5, which is considerably higher than most gun owners.

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                                                                  • L-Pink
                                                                    working on my tan
                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                    • 39151

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I'm going for my afternoon walk, 100% sure I'm not going to get shot.

                                                                    Can't say the same about someone running me over irresponsibly multi-tasking while driving their car.

                                                                    Later …….

                                                                    .

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                                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 59204

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                      Freedom has nothing to do with anything. I can NEVER remember my parents even using the word. Different cultures. You have your point of view I have mine, why the open hostility?

                                                                      .
                                                                      Oh ofcourse freedom has nothing to do with it. Gun owners would never asociate that with gun

                                                                      You're getting ridiculous now.

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                                                                      • halfpint
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                                                                        • 15223

                                                                        #36
                                                                        What kind of parent would give a gun to a 4 year old and leave it loaded and not locked away unloaded ? The mind boggles .

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                                                                        • BlackCrayon
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                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 19634

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                          Oh ofcourse freedom has nothing to do with it. Gun owners would never asociate that with gun

                                                                          You're getting ridiculous now.
                                                                          the whole 'freedom' thing is fairly new. back in l-pink's day guns were given to little boys because it was thought it helped make them into men and it was tradition that goes back to the days when you had to hunt for your food.
                                                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 59204

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                            I'm going for my afternoon walk, 100% sure I'm not going to get shot.

                                                                            Can't say the same about someone running me over irresponsibly multi-tasking while driving their car.

                                                                            Later ??.

                                                                            .
                                                                            And he we go again. It always easy to pick out the dumbest gun owners. It's the ones that start crying about cars and swimming pools. You know the thread has reached it's end.

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                                                                            • Dirty F
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                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 59204

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                              the whole 'freedom' thing is fairly new..
                                                                              Yup. Only a few 100 years new.

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                                                                              • Dirty F
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                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by halfpint
                                                                                What kind of parent would give a gun to a 4 year old and leave it loaded and not locked away unloaded ? The mind boggles .
                                                                                An American parent.

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                                                                                • Vendzilla
                                                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 23200

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                  a five year old though? they don't even know how to write but they should be using guns? i don't think there is anything wrong with teenagers learning how to shoot, preferably by taking a course. this is how it was around my area in high school. if the guys wanted to shoot guns they had to take a hunting course that taught them how to properly use, store and maintain a gun. they were only able to take this course at 15/16 years old.
                                                                                  My daughter was learning to write at 4 using Hooked of Phonics, I taught my daughter to shoot when she was I think 8, I would never have sent her to a hunting course. I started her with a BB gun and then a .22 pump, then a M1 Carbine

                                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                  I was about that age when my grandfather gave me a .22 as well. I learned a gun wasn't a toy, you only took it out of the locked cabinet when my father was taking me can shooting, you never loaded the gun until you were in a safe place to shoot, you under no circumstances pointed a gun loaded or unloaded at anything you didn't want to shoot and the safety and trigger were never touched until the target was visible.

                                                                                  It's called responsibility ?.. something more people need.

                                                                                  .
                                                                                  I was learning about the same age, while no guns were every given to me till my step father died, he did give me then, a Savage 30.06 made in 1902 that I can drill holes in golf balls with!
                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                  • Dirty F
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                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 59204

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                    My daughter was learning to write at 4 using Hooked of Phonics, I taught my daughter to shoot when she was I think 8, I would never have sent her to a hunting course. I started her with a BB gun and then a .22 pump, then a M1 Carbine



                                                                                    I was learning about the same age, while no guns were every given to me till my step father died, he did give me then, a Savage 30.06 made in 1902 that I can drill holes in golf balls with!
                                                                                    You're teaching your daughter how to shoot people in the eye.
                                                                                    If ayone could stand for everything that is wrong with the US it's you.
                                                                                    It's your backwards kind that people think of in other countries when you mention the US.
                                                                                    The purest white trash you will find in your 3rd world country.

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                                                                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 19634

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                      My daughter was learning to write at 4 using Hooked of Phonics, I taught my daughter to shoot when she was I think 8, I would never have sent her to a hunting course. I started her with a BB gun and then a .22 pump, then a M1 Carbine


                                                                                      hunting was a big thing for a lot of guys in my highschool. seems these days people just want to shoot guns for fun. i don't really see the thrill in either hunting or shooting for fun but whatever. i'd sooner have a kid learn from someone who actually knows what they're talking about rather than teaching mistakes that have been passed down from previous generations.
                                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                      • Vendzilla
                                                                                        Biker Gnome
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 23200

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                        hunting was a big thing for a lot of guys in my highschool. seems these days people just want to shoot guns for fun. i don't really see the thrill in either hunting or shooting for fun but whatever. i'd sooner have a kid learn from someone who actually knows what they're talking about rather than teaching mistakes that have been passed down from previous generations.
                                                                                        I understand what you are saying, but when I saw my daughter graduate boot camp, her CC asked me about her training, See I was trained by my stepfather who was a Marine. I taught my daughter more than she would have got from a safety course, I know, I needed one for a hunting license and I needed another for a carry permit. I never needed the California safety course for gun ownership because I was in the Military.

                                                                                        Most is just common sense.

                                                                                        I don't hunt anymore, I just have guns because I enjoy target shooting and the security of having them.
                                                                                        I was thinking about an offer from a friend to go buffalo hunting, not really a sport, but would fill my freezer!
                                                                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                        think about that

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                                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 23200

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                          You're teaching your daughter how to shoot people in the eye.
                                                                                          If ayone could stand for everything that is wrong with the US it's you.
                                                                                          It's your backwards kind that people think of in other countries when you mention the US.
                                                                                          The purest white trash you will find in your 3rd world country.
                                                                                          Frank, have a problem with women that can defend themselves? Or just white people?
                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                          • k0nr4d
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                                                                                            • Aug 2006
                                                                                            • 9231

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Either don't give guns to 5 year olds, or give guns to 2 year olds to protect themselves against 5 year olds...
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                                                                                            • NaughtyVisions
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                                                                                              • 4204

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                              Hey it was just a "little" gun marketed for kids.. no big deal..
                                                                                              Yeah, there's obviously nothing wrong with making real guns flashy colors that appeal to children and marketing directly to them.

                                                                                              http://crickett.com/

                                                                                              "Crickett Firearms - My First Rifle"





                                                                                              I think the "Kid's Corner" page on that site is the most disturbing.

                                                                                              http://www.crickett.com/crickett_kid...dmfs50os0d0al6

                                                                                              Look at those pics. This is the culture we're condoning?
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                                                                                              • xNetworx
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                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                • 14445

                                                                                                #48

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                                                                                                • NaughtyVisions
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by CamBoss
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                                                                                                  • L-Pink
                                                                                                    working on my tan
                                                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                                                    • 39151

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                    And he we go again. It always easy to pick out the dumbest gun owners. It's the ones that start crying about cars and swimming pools. You know the thread has reached it's end.
                                                                                                    And again guns are blamed not the parents that let a loaded gun in a corner of the family room.

                                                                                                    And Frank, I'm pretty smart and I haven't cried in decades.

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