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  • ArielRebel
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    • Dec 2006
    • 1479

    #1

    Taking my career to the next level... Open for hardcore GG shoot - Where should I start?

    Hey everyone

    Since 2004 I have been a softcore model and I decided that it was the time for me to take my adult career to the next level. I would love to be able to shoot hardcore GG for other companies like Vivid, Elegant Angels but I'm not sure where to start and who to talk to for make such thing happen.

    I have already contacted Twistys and Babes and we are planning a shooting in June but I want to go further and seek for other companies who would be ready to give me a shot without hurting my current brand and make sure that this transition make a big boom since my fans and following have been waiting on this day for years now.

    Already I'm in the creation of a new website witch will include hardcore GG and even BG with my current boyfriend and that will be available on my own affiliate program Rebels Own the Net.

    Is there anybody here who could give me a tip on the "do and don't" when making such career move?

    Thanks for your time
  • Arnox
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    • Sep 2009
    • 2169

    #2
    I remember when I used to go on 4chan when I was a horny 14 year old, there'd always be posts about you. Dat soccer set drove me crazy. You were the first 'porn star' I ever knew by name.

    No advice, but thank you for keeping my sane during high school.



    Best of luck with your future endeavors

    p.s. marry me
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    • ArielRebel
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      • Dec 2006
      • 1479

      #3
      Originally posted by Arnox
      I remember when I used to go on 4chan when I was a horny 14 year old, there'd always be posts about you. Dat soccer set drove me crazy. You were the first 'porn star' I ever knew by name.

      No advice, but thank you for keeping my sane during high school.



      Best of luck with your future endeavors

      p.s. marry me
      ahahahah wow.. that's not making me any younger LOL DAM lol

      ...and you're welcome LOL

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      • Jman
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        • Sep 2003
        • 22837

        #4
        Let's chat when we meet up this week
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        • CyberHustler
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          • Feb 2006
          • 28725

          #5
          Can I be your boyfriend?
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          • Mutt
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            • Sep 2002
            • 34431

            #6
            Originally posted by ArielRebel
            Hey everyone

            Since 2004 I have been a softcore model and I decided that it was the time for me to take my adult career to the next level. I would love to be able to shoot hardcore GG for other companies like Vivid, Elegant Angels but I'm not sure where to start and who to talk to for make such thing happen.

            I have already contacted Twistys and Babes and we are planning a shooting in June but I want to go further and seek for other companies who would be ready to give me a shot without hurting my current brand and make sure that this transition make a big boom since my fans and following have been waiting on this day for years now.

            Already I'm in the creation of a new website witch will include hardcore GG and even BG with my current boyfriend and that will be available on my own affiliate program Rebels Own the Net.

            Is there anybody here who could give me a tip on the "do and don't" when making such career move?

            Thanks for your time
            First because you have made a big name for yourself - you should command a big price from whatever company gets their first shot at shooting you, every first you do, demand extra, negotiate. don't take their standard fees which they would pay any of the LA agency models.

            GirlfriendFilms is the biggest name in GG hardcore. Get an LA agency to rep you.



            You should get an LA agent.
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            • ArielRebel
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              • Dec 2006
              • 1479

              #7
              Originally posted by Jman
              Let's chat when we meet up this week
              Coolio Is Friday night good for you? My house is a mess lol I need to clean it ;P

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              • Jman
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Sep 2003
                • 22837

                #8
                Originally posted by ArielRebel
                Coolio Is Friday night good for you? My house is a mess lol I need to clean it ;P
                Sounds great to me, see you guys Friday
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                • rogueteens
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 8005

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ArielRebel
                  ahahahah wow.. that's not making me any younger LOL DAM lol

                  ...and you're welcome LOL
                  I know it's rude to ask a lady but how old are you? You've got one of those faces that make it really hard to guess.
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                  • Nancy M00re
                    Pegas Productions
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 2297

                    #10
                    Wow, what a big moove!!!!
                    Congrats girl ;-) and Finally, you will shoot for us
                    That is great news!!!

                    looking forward to see you xxx
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                    • fris
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 55679

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ArielRebel
                      Hey everyone

                      Since 2004 I have been a softcore model and I decided that it was the time for me to take my adult career to the next level. I would love to be able to shoot hardcore GG for other companies like Vivid, Elegant Angels but I'm not sure where to start and who to talk to for make such thing happen.

                      I have already contacted Twistys and Babes and we are planning a shooting in June but I want to go further and seek for other companies who would be ready to give me a shot without hurting my current brand and make sure that this transition make a big boom since my fans and following have been waiting on this day for years now.

                      Already I'm in the creation of a new website witch will include hardcore GG and even BG with my current boyfriend and that will be available on my own affiliate program Rebels Own the Net.

                      Is there anybody here who could give me a tip on the "do and don't" when making such career move?

                      Thanks for your time
                      i think have a digital camera i can use.
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                      • Arnox
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                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2169

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rogueteens
                        I know it's rude to ask a lady but how old are you? You've got one of those faces that make it really hard to guess.
                        She turned 28 last month
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                        • goldflower
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          #13
                          Will be great see you in some hardcore action Good luck with this
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                          • PR_Phil
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                            • Apr 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mutt
                            First because you have made a big name for yourself - you should command a big price from whatever company gets their first shot at shooting you, every first you do, demand extra, negotiate.
                            whatever Mutt says you are worth, I'll pay,(well maybe within reason) you call the shots!

                            if interested, phil at porn dot com

                            will pay more if there is naked cooking at the end.

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                            • Poppy
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                              • Apr 2002
                              • 6254

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PR_Phil
                              whatever Mutt says you are worth, I'll pay,(well maybe within reason) you call the shots!

                              if interested, phil at porn dot com

                              will pay more if there is naked cooking at the end.
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                              • xNetworx
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                                • Jan 2004
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                                #16

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                                • ArielRebel
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                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 1479

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                  First because you have made a big name for yourself - you should command a big price from whatever company gets their first shot at shooting you, every first you do, demand extra, negotiate. don't take their standard fees which they would pay any of the LA agency models.

                                  GirlfriendFilms is the biggest name in GG hardcore. Get an LA agency to rep you.

                                  You should get an LA agent.
                                  A lot of people told me to get an agent but I would like to see how far I could go without it first and then shop around... plus I'm not sure who's the good one and the bad ones... I heard so many bad stories about agencies...

                                  Originally posted by rogueteens
                                  I know it's rude to ask a lady but how old are you? You've got one of those faces that make it really hard to guess.
                                  I just turned 28 on March 14 I'm wondering what age you were giving me :P

                                  Originally posted by Nancy M00re
                                  Wow, what a big moove!!!!
                                  Congrats girl ;-) and Finally, you will shoot for us
                                  That is great news!!!

                                  looking forward to see you xxx
                                  I'm SOOOOOO excited to shoot for you guys and I cant believe we are in the same city and we havent go for dinner anywhere yet... Just tell me where and when and I'm in!


                                  Originally posted by fris
                                  i think have a digital camera i can use.
                                  ahahah :P

                                  Originally posted by goldflower
                                  Will be great see you in some hardcore action Good luck with this
                                  You have no idea how excited I am about this new hardcore website... Blame it on my dirty thirties coming up but I think it's time for me to make the jump

                                  I already shot some BJ with my boyfriend and they came out amazing! I cant wait to have a site to release the vids on.

                                  Originally posted by PR_Phil
                                  whatever Mutt says you are worth, I'll pay,(well maybe within reason) you call the shots!

                                  if interested, phil at porn dot com

                                  will pay more if there is naked cooking at the end.
                                  ahahah what about you paying me for some private sexy cooking courses? lol that could be one of my side business ;)

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                                  • Nancy M00re
                                    Pegas Productions
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 2297

                                    #18
                                    I'll hit you up soon ;-)
                                    We can go with VidVicious who is working near here and Sweetums ;-)
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                                    • brassmonkey
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by CyberHustler
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                                      • fitzmulti
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                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 14861

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ArielRebel

                                        I just turned 28 on March 14 I'm wondering what age you were giving me :P
                                        ;-) March 14th rocks...
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                                        • CyberHustler
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                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 28725

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                          remember what vivica fox said was her taste in men? its the opposite here
                                          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                          • ArielRebel
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                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 1479

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Nancy M00re
                                            I'll hit you up soon ;-)
                                            We can go with VidVicious who is working near here and Sweetums ;-)
                                            Sure! Do you still have my number? DM me worst case and I'll send it to you and sure no prob Vid is welcome

                                            Originally posted by fitzmulti
                                            ;-) March 14th rocks...
                                            {We share that as a birthday PLUS it's Steak & Blowjob Day!}
                                            ahaha I know I think it's hilarious that it's on Steak and Blowjob day :P

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                                            • brassmonkey
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CyberHustler
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                                              • _Richard_
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                                                • Oct 2006
                                                • 30991

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ArielRebel


                                                I just turned 28 on March 14 I'm wondering what age you were giving me :P
                                                i got the 15th! 3rd decan pisces ftw

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                                                • Scott McD
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 67798

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ArielRebel
                                                  Since 2004 I have been a softcore model and I decided that it was the time for me to take my adult career to the next level.
                                                  Best news i've heard all day...


                                                  Good luck. Make wise decisions


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                                                  • BlackCrayon
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                                                    • Jun 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    wow. i'm looking forward to seeing that. hope you have lots of fun and orgasms!
                                                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                    • Scott McD
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                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      Q. How many years do we need to wait for B/G ?? ;-)


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                                                      • shimmy2
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                                                        #28
                                                        someone define hardcore girl girl
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                                                        • brassmonkey
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by shimmy2
                                                          someone define hardcore girl girl
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                                                          • Phoenix
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                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 35475

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by shimmy2
                                                            someone define hardcore girl girl
                                                            i was wondering about this. I assume penetration of some sort.

                                                            Anyway you are hot "Ariel" good luck
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                                                            • 2MuchMark
                                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 50969

                                                              #31
                                                              Arial,

                                                              1 or 2 years ago you were trying out for a mainstream movie or TV role and you were appearing on other TV shows such as Tech TV.

                                                              In my honest opinion, you should keep away from hardcore anything and continue looking for mainstream opportunities as their doors are still open to models and actresses who have posed nude online, but are closed to hardcore models.

                                                              In other words, if you have mainstream aspirations you may find opportunities limited once you go hardcore.

                                                              Think long-term.

                                                              Just my 2 cents.

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                                                              • SmutHammer
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                                                                • Mar 2008
                                                                • 4301

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by shimmy2
                                                                someone define hardcore girl girl
                                                                Hardcore usually just means the angles that are shot.

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                                                                • RobertL
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                  Arial,

                                                                  1 or 2 years ago you were trying out for a mainstream movie or TV role and you were appearing on other TV shows such as Tech TV.

                                                                  In my honest opinion, you should keep away from hardcore anything and continue looking for mainstream opportunities as their doors are still open to models and actresses who have posed nude online, but are closed to hardcore models.

                                                                  In other words, if you have mainstream aspirations you may find opportunities limited once you go hardcore.

                                                                  Think long-term.

                                                                  Just my 2 cents.
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                                                                  • mikesouth
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 6334

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Ariel...Email me.

                                                                    I will put you in touch with Mark Speigler and Adella, Id say thats your best bet hands down.
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                                                                    • Paul&John
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                                                                      • Aug 2005
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      B/G, sounds nice
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                                                                      • BareBacked
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        shoot it for YOUR SITE ..
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                                                                        • djroof
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                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 25504

                                                                          #37
                                                                          nice move girl!

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                                                                          • 2MuchMark
                                                                            Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                            • 50969

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Robert-Kink
                                                                            Tell that to Sasha Grey.
                                                                            ...and who else? Traci Lords? Sure... maybe 2 or 3 others, but....

                                                                            Also, in my post I said she "MAY find opportunities LIMITED once you go hardcore". Mainstream entertainment companies may, just may, have a harder time getting their hardcore sex clients work in mainstream productions, and an easier time getting clients who have not been in porn, or who have done topless / softcore work.

                                                                            There is one girl I know who used to be in adult and has since left it behind. She moved to LA and is acting in mainstream movies & TV shows now yes, but her characters are always "stripper #2", "whore #3", "body in bathroom 3", etc. It's kind of sad because its something she has always wanted to do but no one gives her a break beyond bit parts like the ones above and she's been at it for quite a while now. Sure maybe she's just a bad actress, but the "stripper / whore" label sure seems to be sticking...
                                                                            Last edited by 2MuchMark; 04-30-2013, 01:35 PM.

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                                                                            • Dankasaur
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                                                                              • Sep 2011
                                                                              • 1432

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Good luck, Ariel.

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                                                                              • blazin
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                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 2781

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I read GG...and though of that German site... I thought... damn.. Ariel Rebel is going to be swimming in cum!
                                                                                I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                                                                                • babymaker
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                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 4751

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  How about a 100 man creampie gangbang I could sell the hell out of that Anyway good luck with next level

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                                                                                  • TurboAngel
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                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 30122

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                                    Arial,

                                                                                    1 or 2 years ago you were trying out for a mainstream movie or TV role and you were appearing on other TV shows such as Tech TV.

                                                                                    In my honest opinion, you should keep away from hardcore anything and continue looking for mainstream opportunities as their doors are still open to models and actresses who have posed nude online, but are closed to hardcore models.

                                                                                    In other words, if you have mainstream aspirations you may find opportunities limited once you go hardcore.

                                                                                    Think long-term.

                                                                                    Just my 2 cents.
                                                                                    Good advice.


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                                                                                    • brassmonkey
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                                                                                      • 77396

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by babymaker
                                                                                      How about a 100 man creampie gangbang I could sell the hell out of that Anyway good luck with next level
                                                                                      id pay to watch that!
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                                                                                      • georgeyw
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                                                                                        • 9865

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                                        ...and who else? Traci Lords? Sure... maybe 2 or 3 others, but....

                                                                                        Also, in my post I said she "MAY find opportunities LIMITED once you go hardcore". Mainstream entertainment companies may, just may, have a harder time getting their hardcore sex clients work in mainstream productions, and an easier time getting clients who have not been in porn, or who have done topless / softcore work.

                                                                                        There is one girl I know who used to be in adult and has since left it behind. She moved to LA and is acting in mainstream movies & TV shows now yes, but her characters are always "stripper #2", "whore #3", "body in bathroom 3", etc. It's kind of sad because its something she has always wanted to do but no one gives her a break beyond bit parts like the ones above and she's been at it for quite a while now. Sure maybe she's just a bad actress, but the "stripper / whore" label sure seems to be sticking...
                                                                                        Girl girl is not exactly hardcore

                                                                                        I get your point, however dick *in* mouth and pussy in mouth != to one another.
                                                                                        Last edited by georgeyw; 04-30-2013, 02:24 PM.
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                                                                                        • rogueteens
                                                                                          So fucking bland
                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 8005

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ArielRebel
                                                                                          I just turned 28 on March 14 I'm wondering what age you were giving me :P
                                                                                          To be honest, if it wasn't for the fact that I know you've been in the biz for a while I'd have said about 23 tops. (but then what do I know, I think I look 25!!!)
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                                                                                          • Grapesoda
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                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                            • 46238

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by ArielRebel
                                                                                            A lot of people told me to get an agent but I would like to see how far I could go without it first and then shop around... plus I'm not sure who's the good one and the bad ones... I heard so many bad stories about agencies...



                                                                                            I just turned 28 on March 14 I'm wondering what age you were giving me :P



                                                                                            I'm SOOOOOO excited to shoot for you guys and I cant believe we are in the same city and we havent go for dinner anywhere yet... Just tell me where and when and I'm in!




                                                                                            ahahah :P



                                                                                            You have no idea how excited I am about this new hardcore website... Blame it on my dirty thirties coming up but I think it's time for me to make the jump

                                                                                            I already shot some BJ with my boyfriend and they came out amazing! I cant wait to have a site to release the vids on.



                                                                                            ahahah what about you paying me for some private sexy cooking courses? lol that could be one of my side business ;)
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                                                                                            • tokmansta
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                                                                                              • Jan 2013
                                                                                              • 566

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by ArielRebel
                                                                                              ahahahah wow.. that's not making me any younger LOL DAM lol

                                                                                              ...and you're welcome LOL
                                                                                              Hahah, bit awkward

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                                                                                              • CT-Content
                                                                                                So Fucking Intelligent
                                                                                                • Aug 2012
                                                                                                • 434

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Ariel, yeah, you're bangin' hot. I've never seen you shoot with a dude though girl.. what's up with that ?

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                                                                                                • Bman
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  The absolute last place I would ask for any career advice is on GFY
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                                                                                                  • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                    Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                    • 50969

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                    Girl girl is not exactly hardcore

                                                                                                    I get your point, however dick *in* mouth and pussy in mouth != to one another.
                                                                                                    It's not what you and I would consider hardcore, but mainstream would see it as LESBIAN / GAY SEX, and if it showed pussy they would definitely call it hardcore. If they used toys they would see penetration and then definitely call it hardcore. And besides, Ariel said hardcore in her description so....


                                                                                                    Originally posted by Bman
                                                                                                    The absolute last place I would ask for any career advice is on GFY
                                                                                                    That's good advice!
                                                                                                    Last edited by 2MuchMark; 04-30-2013, 05:44 PM.

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